You may have seen a video doing the rounds online which appears to show the next firmware update for the Nintendo Switch.
The footage shows somebody navigating "update 5.0", which clearly shows streaming apps like YouTube in place, as well as the ability to create chat rooms with friends, group apps into folders and even change the theme of the UI with special wallpapers.
The video - despite being quite poor quality - actually goes into a lot of depth, with various screens and options being displayed, all making it seem quite legit. The original poster said the update would arrive in February and the fact that it was soon taken down (those Nintendo Ninjas, you guys) seemed to be enough to convince many that it was the real deal.
Sadly, it has since been confirmed as fake:
Sources we consider reliable have come forward to indicate to us that this is fake. We're leaving the thread open for now, but take it with more than a grain of salt.
Some viewers pointed out that the YouTube app logo was out of date, and that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's file size was all wrong.
While we applaud the sheer amount of effort that has gone into creating this footage, the reason it perhaps fooled so many is that all of the showcased ideas are solid, and have in fact been present on other consoles for years. Let's hope that Nintendo choses to include some of these ideas in the real firmware update, so our Switch consoles can finally feel like part of the modern era.
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Oh, bummer !
As expected.
Or, you know, it could just be a beta or test version with some errors. Playstation still uses the old youtube logo for example.
It's a shame that this is just a hoax, but on the bright side, all of this stuff will probably come to the Switch sooner or later anyway.
I guess the New themes, Youtube, Folders, etc will be revealed on Next Nintendo Direct.
I believe it is fake but the reasons given don't prove a thing. As mentioned by someone else here the YouTube app old logo is still used by other consoles.
The size of Mario Kart is irrelevant as it could be a fake icon, as in the OS is being tested only and the games are dummies, this would explain the inconsistency with file size, another option could be they are using an internal build of Mario Kart with less levels, again for testing only, far fetched but possible.
There is also A font inconsistency but this again doesn't mean a thing, the beta OS may have different fonts for different parts of it.
I still believe this to be fake but the reasons given aren't solid enough!
Maybe it’s because I’m an older gamer, but I couldn’t care less with any of these things. Gimme the games. Let me play them. I’m happy.
The amount of effort that must have gone into making this "preview" of the 5.0 update... I wonder what the developer(s) are thinking now that their work has been debunked. (I hope this is real, but that seems highly unlikely).
If only this were true though... if only...
@Morlock5K I was about to say the same things! There's still hope, although there's no reason to believe this is real.
I believe this is kind of beta testing of various upcoming features.
I double checked frame by frame of the video and the current firmware, it's even match the correct animation choreography (the order of ui elements showing, the delay, the animation), it has to be based on the real firmware, or even a hack, even this is fake.
I also noticed that on the main menu, the icon become a bit bigger when you hover on them, but it's not present on the current firmware, so I guess it might be a minor UI change (if that's real)
It would be funny if any of this feature came true and then we come back to see this video and post.
As a parent, I hope there will never be any internet browser on the switch, it'll require parent control and all that complicated stuff.
@KIRO same, I have not missed the streaming apps or browser or any of that stuff on my Switch. I’m glad it’s not there, I don’t even use that stuff on the other consoles that do have it portable or otherwise.
Like other people, I believe it is not real. But in no way have you confirmed its fake. Both reasons you give can be explained away. Especially regarding the Youtube logo, as (pointed out by others)the same thing exists on PS4. As for the MK thing. Maybe its a demo of the game or different version used to test stability.
I assume it is still a fake but this article doesn't confirm my opinion in any way
The Youtube logo being out of date may just signify that the app has been in development for a long time, the logo change only occurred in August 2017 after all, that's merely 4 months ago. As for the size of MK8 Deluxe being wrong, I wonder what makes anyone say that since it's not even seen in the video. And you can't calculate that based on remaining system memory and SD card space, since you don't know what else is stored on either of those, so it can't be deduced from looking at the video.
I'm not saying it's not fake, but just that the arguments in favour of it being fake do not carry enough weight to be believed either. I'd like it to be real... and it looks real enough to me so far, but I also know looks can be very deceiving so I'll reserve judgement for now. If that update is to come so soon, we'll see it in the direct anyway, if there is any as ALSO rumoured.
Of course it's fake. The only major updates they do is stability. Not saying these updates won't come but they will come in 2019
I hope nintendo took notes though
Fake or not - those are all features the Switch desperately needs .. I mean .. needed to have right from the start .. so many months into the console now and still no word about virtual console, browser , social media (YouTube!!!) .. Big N Doenst seem to care much because - you know - it sells anyway ..
Well, Switch does have Hulu. So hopefully other apps aren’t to far away.
I knew it was fake as soon as I saw that terrible Zelda theme
This looks very real. There is nothing in this article confirming fake. Not that chat thread linked titled "probably fake" and full of guesses. . Notice the microphone being pulled out
@Kafei2006 agreed
Really want themes and all mainly, don't need youtoob and crap
The part where he was creating a room. Man, if only...
The basic UI is great as is, but once you aquire over a dozen games it becomes more and more cumbersome. Especially if they start releasing Virtual Console titles. That home menu is going to get real crowded real quick.
As for the apps, theres a good argument for having this as a games-only system. I felt the same until I started using Hulu on my Switch waaaaay more than I expected to. The tv-to-handheld option is really helpful when you live in a multi-gamer household. I think I'd like a youtube app as well, but don't really care either way about an Internet browser.
Playing fast and loose with the word 'confirmed' there...both of the reasons given as 'proof' (that it isn't real) could be explained away by the fact that the firmware is in beta, or that the Switch being used is a development model.
Don't get me wrong, I'm leaning towards it being a fake - but speculation isn't confirmation.
If it's fake, it requires A LOT of effort to create that UI. If someone puts so much time and energy to fake it, they won't make stupid mistakes.
BTW, the original video (already taken down) was first posted on 4chan, their previous Switch leaks were accurate.
I'm almost surprised anyone believed this in the first place.
Shame, because clearly that's all stuff that pretty much every Switch owner would appreciate having--a lot.
I mean, seriously Nintendo, it's all good stuff: Themes, cloud storage, icon sorting, party chat, virtual console, media apps, system level microphone support, internet browser.
The faker really knows what the people want--apparently more than Nintendo--imo.
I posted on Switch thread, no response then. I try other thing, someone must LOVE Nintendo to make fake so real.
The PS4 uses the same logo -_-
I hate when people have too much time on their hands like this.
Should have mentioned the video was taken down by the user.
Nothing has been "confirmed fake". Anyone who has an inkling of knowledge on the subject knows the YouTube icon is the same as on PS4, not to mention, the change was recent and the app was likely in development since before that change. Furthermore, dev kits use dummy icons rather than download full games for UI tests. The font inconsistency could be explained by either the theme shop using a different font, or a simple error which, to my knowledge, happens quite often in this sort of UI testing phase.
Now, I'm not saying it's real, but as of yet there has been no definitive proof this is fake. None.
And honestly, the work required to make a fake this good would be astronomical. All the sounds are synchronized, everything is in place perfectly... again, not saying it's real, but this would be extremely hard to fake.
Everthing about it was subjective of how great it was real or not.
The only thing I liked about it was the wallpaper bit the white background is kinda boring.
@JaxonH Agreed. Poor - very poor indeed.
EDIT: Oh, I didn't realise that ZhugeEX - moderator of the Resetera forums - had his/her 'reliable sources' confirm that it isn't real...if that's not 'evidence', I don't know what is!
... :/
Was hoping to find an accurate debunk when I came here. Didn't find it.
@JaxonH I agree. It will be embarrassing for NL if it turns out to be real. 🙈
Most likely it was the janitor at Nintendo office during the night, while doing his cleaning he came across a desk with the beta OS running, so he filmed it.
Too bad. I figured it was fake, but in case it wasn't I've been taking some killer screen shots since I heard the rumor.
I think there is a little bit of truth in this apparent "fake". After watching the video, why would anyone go this far to recreate the Switch OS? The flow of the menus is flawless. It behaves just like a Switch, sounds and movements, everything. Could it be a hacked build? Maybe. It would've been helpful to show the build number and the OS version in the video for better proof.
It can still be a fake, but the reasons listed it as a fake are easy to dismiss... like the video. When January 11th rolls in, I believe we will see details on a system update to the Switch.
Customers call into their suggestion department and it gets forwarded to Redmond and Kyoto, they are listening to us. These features could be possible on the Switch. Until there is anything official, it's still a dream.
There’s just too much new all at once. It’s never been like Nintendo to add so many enhancements at once to an OS.
Yeah... considering the source that has debunked this, it is all but certain that it is fake.
People thinking that this is too much effort to put into something fake, and why the heck people would be doing this, would do well to remember the whole "leaked" NX controller hoax, in which people actually went through the trouble to 3D-print an actual controller, that fooled half the gaming world's population into believing that it was "real"...
And the whole video "having been taken down" was probably done by the guy himself, to trick people into believing it's real. Just look at it as the new way to gain validity and make your leak "trustworthy". After all, if the video was "taken down" by someone, then it must be real, right?
No, not really. I consider it fake confirmed. There may very well be an update in the works for the Switch, but none that will add so many changes all at once, so people had better not get their hopes up...
@thesilverbrick
That's the one thing that reels me back in from believing it.
At the same time, most of this is stuff we had on 3DS and Wii U. And with paid online coming, I could see them wanting to up their game
@Nincompoop
Or a kid whose dad is a tester for NoA. Kid sneaks in while his dad is gone, films it quick and uploads to YT (which would explain the oversight of showing NoATest account names). Nintendo sees it, informs the dad, video is removed.
It's certainly plausible.
@JaxonH The way things have been going, I wouldn’t be surprised to see most, if not all of these features added to the operating system at some point in the future, but all at once? Seems far too progressive for Nintendo, even if they have been waking up a little bit lately. And are we even sure the Direct is going to happen this week? Nintendo has been eerily quiet about it.
Don’t want any of that anyway! Granted... some do and I don’t have to use it but it’ll just clog up my switch with unwanted stuff. I just want to play my single player/local co-op games.
Edit: but I am a fan of custom wallpapers I love the clean black/white look but sometimes a wee bit of customization goes a long way.
@thesilverbrick
I guess we'll find out soon enough. I could see them purposely delaying just to discredit any leaks.
@Antray1984
Yeah I am with you on this. When you think about all the features listed, Nintendo have implemented most if not all of them before in some form or the other on the 3DS or other consoles - except maybe voice chat.
However I have even heard about “voice chat” of some sort on some 3DS games but can’t confirm this as I never owned one.
If they have done it’s before why can’t they do it again?
@Coffee_Drinker Switch to the black wallpaper haha.
Only one of the three things commonly said to "prove" that this is fake actually makes any sense, and that's the fact that Mario Kart isn't taking up enough space.
The old YouTube logo isn't a problem, it's the same YouTube logo used on other game consoles to this day.
The "font discrepancy" on the storage page in settings isn't a discrepancy. Though they're similar, the fonts used for the actual title and body text on a real system are in fact different fonts.
That said, yeah this always seemed too good to be true
@CasNicks Here we go again: The Playstation YouTube app was not released in 2017. When it was released, it used the latest version of the YouTube logo at the time. The publishers don't bother updating the icon because it's not a mobile app. My Samsung Smart TV uses the old icon, but new smart TVs use the new icon.
Nintendo needs to get it's act together and make something like this a reality!
Although, if it makes the Switch run slower, I'm okay with it the way it is.
@Callmegil All I'm saying is that none of these points make a solid argument for it being fake.
It could be real, it could be fake, only time will tell. I just wish they'd be more careful with the word "confirmed".
At the rate Nintendo works on OS updates, the Switch will be half way through it's life span before it gets all of the basic day one stuff.
Anyway, here's the vid if no one's seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta2LG5idCyM
@fortygamer I’m with you. It annoys me so much that I can’t delete the browser from the Xbox 1.
@KIRO I agree with you. I don't understand the modern obsession with things like wallpapers as somehow having any importance. Everything superficial seems to entertain people more than the actual products these days.
Though a YouTube app and browser might actually be beneficial for walkthrough videos/text/images....so I can't discard that one. There's convenience just hitting the button to go to the menu to check rather than picking up a second device.
A good, logical video about the possibilities of the leaked firmware video being real or fake:
Bubsy is coming to the Switch. I know it because my uncle works at Nintendo
@dizzy_boy That video is already attached to the article above.
Man, that BotW background is ugly on the Switch. I love that the OS is simple and clean. I just hope Nintendo brings out simple wallpapers for the Switch instead of what they did with 3DS.
Some people doubted that Nintendo would released these goodies all at once in a single firmware... when what we usually get is the good old stability medicine.
Think about it: Zelda won the GoTY award and Switch is the best selling console right now. Nintendo is at the top of the gaming world, they just want to give something back to their loyal fans, a gesture of gratitude.
@CasNicks or, you know, it's a fake.
@Mikemario lol everyone wants this thing to be real
Well we only have a few weeks to go to know if it'll be fake or not.
I would love to have YouTube and Netflix on my Switch. I currently use my Wii U for Netflix many times per week. It sure would be convenient to have it on my Switch. I do miss themes like I have on my 3DS, and also the catchy tunes from the eShop!
@ThanosReXXX I dunno how I missed that. I scrolled past it to read the rest of the article and didn't think to go back to it. Oh well.
If it is too good to be true, it is usually fake. I was not excited at all. Things will come in time.
The dedication to fakery is unbelievable. A lot of folks seem to be under the illusion that faking a leak is easy, but when its in video format and this detailed its not surprising people were fooled.
It was too good to be true. The thing that landed me to earth was that we saw specific user (NOATEST63..) which was a little bit obvious as a fake thing because if he was leaking such a thing in his knowledge under the NDA Agreement he would be a stoopid!
So where's the video of the guy trying to show how awesome he is by showing us how he made it?
I just want to be able to organize my games into folders. (e.g., All the classic arcade games into one folder.) Everything else is basically gravy at this point. lol
We get excited because we want these improvements to the system. All are quite reasonable. I love Nintendo but sometimes they can be so slow at adding in these types of things. Rather than spending effort to get this stuff off the internet why not spend it on giving the fans what they want? Anyone remember the Netflix disc for Wii, yet the Switch can’t do it.
@Destron I’m with you on the browser. Don’t really care if it ever comes but would like a few extra streaming apps. Just flew with my kids and had to take iPads & Switch. Had it had Netflix or amazon I probably could have left the iPads at home.
The only proof given was a quote that said "sources we consider reliable", whatever that means, not even specifying who gave the quote or why they should be trusted. What is even the point of this article?
@Supadav03 but you would've needed an extra battery pack for Switch pulling double duty, tho.
I think it's real. Whether or not it's official is another thing lol.
When fakers can create something better looking than Nintendo 😒 I wish it was real.... I don’t need the streaming apps, my tv has a dedicated Netflix button and easy access to YouTube, but I’d love themes like the 3DS has.
There is as much evidence for this being real as their is for it being fake. At this point I would say unless further evidence comes out that it is fake it is only guesswork that it is not real. I would imagine by the next Nintendo Direct (hopefully Thursday) we will know.
Ohhh Nintendo how I Love thee but get on with It! Already release a new firmware update,news for The Upcoming Nintendo Direct and apps cause I do want to buy new games for my Precious switch but she are they the AAA new titles you had told us about.
I don't like that people are saying its confirmed fake. While I see the red flags, I can also see them all potentially as just being the result of this being an in development UI that is not finalized. Outdated Youtube logo - placeholder. Instance of a different lower case g - the theme part of the system is calling the wrong variant of the font within the font family. Mario Kart 8 file size - could be a dummy file, or perhaps its been deleted and the cloud icon is just missing due to some changes in the code while they've been working on this update.
I agree that those things are odd, but ultimately I don't think they stand as firm evidence that this is fake and again could just be the results of this not being the final build (though clearly getting close to being so). We'll see in time, I wont be surprised if its fake, but I'm not going to say that we have 100% proof at all that its confirmed as fake.
The thing that is kinda sad, is that mosf of these "features" are actually pretty basic. I mean, themes? Folders? Party chat? The Ps4 couldn't do these out of the box, that much is true, but by now it can, and so can many other devices. Pretty basic stuff ... so, even if it weren't fake, I would hardly go with the flow here, and call it "Amazing".
Welcome changes, some of them borderline necessary at best. And yet, still, if any of this will materialize, it will still be quite some time ... let's not kid ourselves.
@dizzy_boy Wouldn't worry about it if I were you, but I thought I'd give you a heads up anyway.
Not a bad idea though, putting the apps under 1 icon. Just because you havent say, watched Hulu for awhile doesnt mean you have to look back of the queue for the app.
@fortygamer You mean, you'll actually have to be a parent and watch what your kids do?!?!? What a shock!!!
@GC-161 true, but easier to have a battery pack attached than to jostle back & forth between devices. Had a ZeroLemon battery that attaches to the Switch hooked on them anyways since the flight was 7 hours
It's fake lol
It's pretty sad that people want this to be real tho...
@westman98 why is it sad to what themes, folders, and more apps?
@duffmmann There's more to it than that, and for me personally, a HUGE red flag is that this seems to give us most of what we want all at once, and that is something that Nintendo has NEVER done, regardless of whether how successful a console or handheld was, so that should count for something.
Some other arguments are also mentioned in the video that I posted in comment #59.
A considerable number of other sites and forums (among which several reputable ones) are also already reporting that this is fake, naming the same discrepancies and/or additional ones, so chances are that it most likely is.
Some examples:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/up-probably-fake-rumor-video-of-switch-firmware-version-5-0-surface.14621/
https://segmentnext.com/2018/01/08/nintendo-switch-5-0-firmware-rumors-proven-fake/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/01/07/sadly-footage-of-the-nintendo-switch-with-twitch-youtube-and-party-chat-is-fake/#6960f3432210
https://twitter.com/NinDailyNews/status/949460144122945536
And lastly, the rumor has been called fake by Daniel Ahmad, aka ZhugeEX, video game industry analyst at Niko Partners. He joined in the conversation on the ResetEra forum to confirm this. He has a very decent track record of being right about things, so even though he is not the be all and end all of video game industry knowledge, it is definitely not smart to dismiss anything he says by default.
@Supadav03
Perhaps I mispoke.
It's sad that a fake Switch OS is much, much better than the current Switch OS.
I just have a problem with the wording. It hasn't been 'confirmed' to be fake - it's likely fake...there's a difference. Nothing can be confirmed without confirmation.
Even the forum used as a source has it (appropriately) labelled as 'probably fake'.
@westman98 ahh ok. I can agree with those sentiments for sure.
I believe it’s fake but this article has as much proof as they do that it’s real, so the title could have been its real with no proof
@CasNicks Additionally it could just be a placeholder or dummy file, like the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe file could also be.
@fortygamer
As a parent and gamer I hope they DO open up a browser and other video aps like YouTube and Netflix. I and my daughters use all of te above on my PS4 AND WiiU at different times. It is VERY convienent features to have available. Especially with being able to jump on the browser without having to leave a game first to check email...FB...gaming sites...etc. Maybe some don't use it...but there are others that do.
@NaviAndMii
Unless, of course, you will only take Nintendo's word for it...
@ThanosReXXX A (sort of) industry insider claimed that (but didn't quote) his unnamed (but apparently reliable) source 'confirmed' it to be fake.
He could well be right, but I'll need confirmation...
@NaviAndMii Daniel Ahmad (they spelled his name wrong) is a very reputable analyst in the video game industry, and he's been right about stuff more times than I can count, contrary to some other people who also have far less reputable reps.
If he has officially come out on a forum to state that it's fake, then it probably is. His word already is the confirmation.
@ThanosReXXX Similarly though, some stuff recently got leaked regarding the Pokemon Switch RPG - they apparently come from a source who is usually pretty reliable as well, but people still stop short of saying that the leaked features are 'confirmed'.
You even said it yourself that "he is not the be all and end all of video game industry knowledge" - so as much as I'll concede that (based on your testimony) his word adds weight to the 'fake' argument, it still isn't what I'd consider to be 'confirmation'.
@Highlar and @chemical, I am proud father to six kids and yes I'm strictly monitoring what they can see on internet, so the Switch just like it is now without internet browser (but plus many many great games that will surely come soon) is perfect for me, and I hope they won't ruin it. that's all.
@NaviAndMii That's not what I meant by that. What that alluded to, is him sometimes also having made educated guesses, that have also been wrong on occasion, but in this case he simply and quite straightforwardly stated that it IS fake, so chances are that he knows more, which is probably also why Nintendo Life also went with that verdict. They even linked to the forum post he made in the article, so that should tell you more than enough.
Being suspicious of things just for the sake of it, isn't very conducive to anything constructive...
@KIRO With you on that man...
@fortygamer that’s what parental controls are for. They aren’t “ruining” anything by adding features, just because you don’t want them doesn’t mean they shouldn’t add them.
Nothing in this article is a confirmation that this is indeed fake. This could be a beta version with just a Mario Kart dummy test file and a Youtube Icon that other platforms still use. I'd be a little more careful if i was NintendoLife to call it a fake for now.
@ThanosReXXX I'm talking semantics. Confirmation = Certainty. If a source is neither named nor quoted, there's an element of doubt. Doubt = Uncertainty. Uncertainty ≠ Certainty.
It hasn't been confirmed.
@NaviAndMii You mean like how Nintendo Life's source for what the Switch was, also wasn't named and yet how that also turned out to be true?
And on the other end of the spectrum we had that 3D printed NX controller that I already mentioned. People were SO sure that it was the real thing because like this video, so much work was put into it, and surely, no one in his right mind would go to such lengths to fool people and yet, it was a big, fat fake all the same.
Again, the guy is reputable, he has sources based upon which he made a pretty conclusive statement. The fact that you're too stubborn/unwilling to accept that, doesn't change anything.
For now, most signs point to this being fake, and like I already said before, it is also highly suspicious that this update would give us so much of what we want all at once. These apps and updates will almost surely come at some point in time, but all at once? I highly doubt it...
@gatorboi352 I recon you will find it is. We will all know in a month. Why would anyone bother to this extent to fake firmware updates?
@ThanosReXXX the switch has been out for 10 months. We've been waiting a long time for some of this basic functionality. Surely nintendo are listening to some degree
@Mikemario I would agree to that, but there's a difference between "to a degree" or giving almost all the wanted functionalities at once.
This just smells a bit too fishy to me. Often times when it looks too good to be true, it probably isn't.
But on the off chance that I'm wrong and it is indeed true, then let's just say that I'm glad I'm an anonymous person posting on a website, instead of being that website: I have no qualms about having to admit to having been wrong if the need arises, but for a website that has stated this as fact, things are perhaps a "little" different...
@ThanosReXXX It was more a comment on how poorly written the above article is than anything else. You have to scroll all the way down to your posts in the comments section before you actually start to make sense of who this guy is and why he should be believed! ..and even then you could argue that nothing has strictly been confirmed (by definition, I mean)
@Mikemario
P.S.
As for why somebody would go to such extent: that is exactly why I already mentioned the fake NX controller in one of my previous comments. What was the fun in that? And yet, they still did it anyway. If anything, if you know how to program in Unix/Android, making a Switch-like menu might even be easier than designing and 3D printing a fake NX controller that fooled millions of people into thinking it was real...
@NaviAndMii Well, yeah... they could have been a little more detailed and mentioned the guy's name, but what I often find in comments sections underneath articles like these, is that people either miss the links in them, or never bother clicking on them, to inform themselves, before they let loose in the comments section below it.
Nintendo Life makes a bold statement, yes, but it has some merit, based upon the source that it is coming from. Either way, guess we'll find out sooner or later if Nintendo actually did decide to pleasantly surprise us or if it is fake after all..
If it's the former, I actually am really curious as to what article is going to be written about it, and how they are going to explain themselves. But for now, I'll stick with the 8 out of 10 guy...
@ThanosReXXX thats total speculation. This is not a controller for a highly anticipated console. It is a firmware update. Why bother
I'd love to see these streaming apps come on the Switch soon, but if there is one thing that I would truly love is a firmware update where you don't need a phone app to chat online with people.
The fact that I have to use a phone to chat online, and the phone I have now doesn't support it, frustrates me. And I can only chat with friends, not with anyone? And the screen has to be on at all times?
To quote the Angry Video Game Nerd, "What were they thinking?"
@Mikemario You could ask the same about some other things, trolls to name but one example. Why would anyone bother to go to any length to do anything whatsoever to trick anyone?
Some do it for fun, some do it for gaining reputation (the fake, 3D printed controller guy actually did it to market himself and his business) and others just do it because they like to trick/annoy people, which is what they get their kick out of.
Either way, the truth will be out soon enough, so we'll probably learn what's up with all this any day now.
@westman98
that's nintendo for ya.
they don't understand much past making mario/zelda games.
i'm not too sure i wouldn't want them to go maybe 2nd party to MS. mario and zelda on the PC? sign me up.
@sword_9mm
"they don't understand much past making mario/zelda games."
Complete and utter nonsense.
@ThanosReXXX Yeah, that's what I mean - people clicked on the link to this article expecting to see the 'rumour busted' and 'confirmed to be fake' ..originally, the article had no source - it's since been edited to include a source; but no name-check, no credit, no testimony, no reason to believe it - you actually have to scroll all the way down to your comments (or click the belatedly added, partially hidden link to the source material) just to find out who this guy is and why his word has merit.
I really like this website - but some of the writing leaves a lot to be desired at times.
...but, yeah, I'm with you - it wouldn't surprise me if many/all of the features 'shown off' in that so-called 'leak' come to the Switch over time (they're all pretty 'safe') - but I think that the video most likely isn't legit (some top level fakery though, I might add!)
From what I understand, the Dev Kits will often have dummy files with random games as a placeholder, and a filesize around what's shown. This has some merit.
@NaviAndMii Aha, guess I entered this article later then, because the link was already in it, which made me wonder how some people could have missed it, judging by their comments.
@ThanosReXXX See, NONE of that stands as evidence to me that this is 100% fake. Like I said, I see the red flags, but I've yet to see one that can't simply be dismissed as a symptom of this being a work in development firmware update. And I really don't care if other sites are calling fake for the same or similar reasons listed. They need some real evidence that it's fake, like the after effects file it was supposedly made in, or the creator himself confessing it was fake. Else, you're just another person pointing fingers saying X is why it must be fake when X is only a curious thing to note and nothing definitive. Point is, I'm certainly skeptical, but I've not seen any piece of evidence yet that definitively has me thinking there is no way it can be real.
@duffmmann Well, you're obviously free and welcome to think and feel whatever you want about this, but all I was saying is that the guy who's saying he has reasons to confirm it as fake, is not just some random internet guy, but a person with a decent reputation of being right most of the time, and he's actually in the business as a professional, so he's not just some Tweeter or blogger either.
Does that mean that he is also right this time? No, not necessarily, but considering his track record, there's a much bigger chance that he is than that he isn't, so my vote goes to it being fake, unless proven otherwise.
You could also argue from that point of view: how much proof is there that this is real? Well... there's NONE, so right back at'cha...
@sword_9mm
Nice hyperbole...Yeah, Nintendo needs to go 3rd party because the UI on their system doesn't have all the bells and whistles. -_-
Still, it is only a matter of time until we get the same theme shop system as the 3ds on switch but I don’t think it will be in February.
Do you think they're possibly genuine fake to market test ?
I scroll down in hopes to find some genuine talk on the rumor..... Just find arguments of whatever.... Haha
But I feel like the points pointed out on why this is fake..... Doesn't convince me it's fake. Like Mario Kart, that could be just a placeholder for developers so that they won't have to waste space on the system. But it helps them see how their game looks like, etc. YouTube logo, that just recently change in August, developers may have had the app on the Switch for longer period than that. Or it could also be just place holder.
I lean on the other is fake side, but that isn't why I feel it's fake. When he opens the settings, the box to which menu section he selects, is a bit to big and covers the previous selection words, which looks sloppy. Some of the formatting and spacing is off.
Whenever something like this is made, it's always enough to make you think its real. If it was real, they would have shown other things to show that without a doubt, that it is real. The vague videos are always a trap, it's not like they only had like 5 seconds to record this, so why be so short. And so badly made, I can make better videos than that with my phone.... So yea.
Even if it is fake, it should go a long way to showing Nintendo how much the community wants these features.
Everyone was super happy and excited about this potential update. With youtube personalities saying things like "this update fixes pretty much every issue we have with the Switch".
So hopefully, by the end of this year, the Switch has all these features and more.
it was so obvious...
Nintendo never discloses updates to anyone and certainly not a major version with such changes
@thesilverbrick For me, the giveaway is the stuff about creating chat "rooms" in the video, I think it's pretty obvious that Nintendo doesn't want to touch that kind of thing with a ten foot pole.
@DanElectrode Exactly. The maker of this fake was a bit too ambitious...
@westman98
we'll see.
their voice chat system is terrible. their online non-existent. no cloud saves, no game sharing, the swap console and download purchases process is just awful.
it's the same story since the wii. so when will N finally 'get' this? i mean, honestly i think they still wish it were the snes days.
Here in 2022, and somehow all of the media apps are on switch…?!?!?
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