Monster Hunter: World Confirmed for Rival Platforms, is Skipping Nintendo Switch

I've never played any Monster Hunter games, so I ask: is MH for PC and the other consoles bad for Nintendo? I just imagine fewer people will buy Switch now because they can get MH elsewhere.

Switch would be perfect for Monster Hunter but I am also thankful to get a MH that is looking as beautiful as this trailer.

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We're not allowed swear, so that will have to do. This may affect sales of MH: XX on Switch and MH in general on Nintendo platforms. There's no loyalty in this industry. MH on Nintendo platforms saved Capcom from the brink. So how are we and Nintendo rewarded? Here's a 3DS port for Switch that looks every bit of its 3DS roots, while PS4 and XB1 get a brand new MH game.

Capcom does this crap all the time. Resident Evil: Revelations? Got the exposure and acclaim on 3DS. The sequel skipped Nintendo.

missing the things i care about in MH from the reveal will have to see more before knowing though

Drop in and drop out - where's the challenge of the individual mission. . ?
If they micro transaction pay2 win this - I won't be happy. .

I guess we'll get a SWITCH Monster hunter announced this afternoon

What a kick in the face this was. Killed the interest i had in XX getting localised. Looks like Sony moneyhatted Capcom and Switch owners will be stuck with an upressed port of a 3DS game and an ancient game engine while their rivals get the real deal.

Monster Hunter Lite, this is for the graphic lovers, not the players.

This is more like a spin-off. The main games such as XX and a future MH5 will be on the switch

As long as XX gets a western release, I'll be happy.

What is going on with Capcom ?!

A leak on 4chan a while ago correctly predicted MHXX and MHW for PS4. The source also states that the "portable" MH will stay on nintendo consoles but we dont know if that's 3ds or switch. Furthermore the source says that Sony specificaly paid Capcom to not release it on switch, probably because they want to reduce nintendo switch sales in Japan.

Well and now to the game: nothing can realy be said about the gameplay if you remember that the mh 4 announcement trailer also consisted of a guy runinng away from a monster which isn't realy the thing you do in MH4. Still very sad about that move from Capcom but a very good business decision from sony i'll admit that. Hope the classic MH will release on switch nonetheless because i'm not realy keen on buying a ps4 just for that game

Personally I'm kind of tired of all the Monster Hunter rehashing /re-releasing of the same thing .

I've kind of got bored of the Monster Hunter series on the 3DS. I felt in love with Tri because it had a bit of an immersive feel to the game, which has steadily been removed from every iteration. It's still fun, but it lost that lovely feeling of discovering monsters fighting each other or just that they appear to be real animals rather than gaming challenges.

World looks like it brings that back, so personally I'm disappointed it's not making it's way to Switch. I think I'll be skipping on MH XX now. (Once I get a switch of course..).

Monster Hunter World looks awesome... I'm so happy I got the Switch + PS4 combo.

It definitely hasn't got me hyped. Doesn't look like a MH game to me. It isn't some B team spin off though. The lead developers are the same guys who work on the main MH games.

I am more worried that MHXX will not get localised to be honest.

Looks amazing, will definitely get it but.....MH games are kind of meant to be played in a portable manner.

@InfernoHamadi

We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

https://twitter.com/dubindoh/status/874525954709757952

Shame, but Monster Hunter was born and bred on PlayStation, so I don't think we can be too surprised if some entries appear on other consoles

Wouldn't worry too much though. Capcom are not stupid and they are not gonna walk away from the portable space as thats where the big time money is. MH5 will be released on switch no doubt

Imagine this in Japan:
Various MonHun events are hosted in Japan whether official or not. The lines reach kilometers longs and what do they do? They wait and play MH together. A new MH game on 3DS is launching and waiting in very..very long queue? They play MH together. You don't bring your own home consoles and laptops at those cons unless it's an esports event or the like.
I feel that this is just a game to fill gamer's thirst for a [true] HD (not HDfied assets) MonHun game on consoles. I'd agree (to an extent) that this is a spin-off/tailor-made for those folks. If I had to guess, an announcement of a gen 5 MH game will ba at TGS 2017 or maybe mid 2018 if unlucky. I just can't see them abandoning the portable audience since that is where the franchise, IMHO, thrives.
I'd still play World though.

EDIT: So apparently Yuri from Capcom unofficially officially said that this isn't a spin-off so it's very likely MH5. A kick to the balls for Switch players if you ask me. Well the ongoing rumor is that Capcom is working on the portable version of MH which is very likely to be Switch. The problem with that though, even if the Switch gets a proper cool HD MonHun game, will it be mainline? Seeing World it appears it will not be...

Not really surprised. at least Switch got XX. if that comes to the west.

Can we really say that Sony money-hatted Capcom? I mean the series was born on PlayStation and made popular by the PSP ... Just worried it will affect the Switch sales in Japan but it makes sense for Capcom If the want to make MH more popular in the West.

I definitely don't care. I mean, I want MH, not Resident Evil with dinosaurs.

I'm not sure if it will have negative effect on any future Switch entry's,it could but it could also have a positive effect.Monster Hunter World will be the first MH for many gamers.If they like it,it could make them curious about a proper numbered entry on Switch.Then there is the existing fans who have played the games for years on handhelds.A home console spin off isn't going to put them off buying a proper handheld sequel.Are Japanese fans of the series going to skip Monster Hunter V on Switch because of this new spin?Unlikely! Same goes with the smaller western fan base,if they love the series already,then they're more than likely handheld gamers.That's not going to change because of one home console spin off.It might make them purchase both though,growing the series more.

Hopefully this will put to rest those silly comments about Switch being 'as powerful' as X1. A real kick in the teeth for Switch owners.

I'm really hoping this ends up being a spin off and traditional main series games stick with the Switch going forward. I think it's good that they are giving the HD console people what they've been asking for, but I didn't really like what I saw so I'll probably give it a pass unless there's something big that changes my mind. At least it's going to eventually come to PC so I can go with that when it's on sale or something if I do decide to pick it up.

Switch is never going to get like-for-like ports of new high-profile games as it's underpowered compared to its rivals. This isn't a failing of Nintendo, just a factual statement. Clearly they can run great, beautiful games on the Switch, but if third parties like Capcom want to make a top-tier title for the broadest audience possible and can't spare a second team to downgrade it for technically inferior hardware, this is the result we as Nintendo fans need to accept. It's not like this is a new position for Nintendo to be in.

Don't really see the differences so many others are. Looks just like the MH I know and dislike... looks so dated, in terms of graphics and gameplay.

Whether it's the game that MH fans actually want or not this is really disappointing news.

I think that whether it's a "spin off" or not it's obvious that this is the direction that Capcom wants to take MH and will take it in the future. Yes "traditional" legacy MH might continue alongside for a while but it won't be the version that gets the marketing push to sell millions of units.

From a Switch perspective it's especially disappointing because it potentially sets up a very negative narrative about the console just as it was gaining steam.

Is... is this betrayal?

I wonder if it was the other way around what people would say? Not that I agree with the move it seams people are jumping to conclusions of why it's not coming to the switch. Maybe the development started before the Switch became what it is today?

MHW is not a MAINLINE monster hunter game. It's not meant to be. For christ sakes. Its a re-imagining of the franchise, tailored for western audiences that don't 'get monster hunter'. The idea is that this game is more linear, with scripted events and some core monster hunter mechanics simplified. Its basically Lost Planet with monster hunter monsters. Anyone thinking this is 'monster hunter returning to its proper game system' needs to get their god dang head out of their butts. 8 Game mainline contract with Nintendo. That means the next 2 monster hunter mainline games will be on nintendo consoles. Nintendo paid good money for that exclusivity.

Japanese gamers make up most of monster hunters demographic.

Japanese gamers prefer portable consoles.

Only a very small population of Japanese people even have internet.

None of them want to be stuck at home, online playing a monster hunter game. The mainline games are going to stick to portables, have more of a chance of getting monster hunter 5 on a cellphone than you do on the PS4.

This is not the end of Nintendo's MH games, but the start of what could be a really interesting set of side games. I have a feeling though, any fans that are going into thinking they are getting MH EICH DEE-- are going to be REALLY, REALLY disappointed.

Will buy it on pc which launches a bit after consoles.

@Ensemen I never played MH and don't care about it but I don't think it is right that a company is allowed to pay another company to bias another one. I mean this game will be on PS4, on XBox and on PC but not on Switch because Sony does not want it on Switch and paid for that? Buying an exclusive is a completely different thing, if Sony paid to have a MH game exclusive for their console it would have been ok for me but paying to directly damage only one competitor instead of focusing just on their own console seems a lot less fair, honest and acceptable imho

@LuckyLand Yes totally agree with you. But keep in mind that's just a rumour, far from being confirmed

I dont use the handheld function so i think this is a good thing. I wouldnt mind if the series stayed on the more powerful platforms. Id like to play this game with the best possible presentation there is.

@AlexOlney The trailer reminded me of MH4.

You couldn't tell if that was a proper MH from the trailer. It introduced a couple of new gameplay elements for the series in the reveal trailer as does this MH World trailer.

It's pretty cool, but for some reason, it also looked a bit bland compared to the more colorful entries on 3DS. Wonder if this is spin-off or a mainline entry. Still hopeful that MH5 will come for Switch though.

This completely killed my interest in Monster Hunter XX on Switch - portability is a big plus but if I've got to decide between a 3DS port and an all-new game, it's an easy decision. Hopefully the Switch will get its own new entry at some point.

Surprised and disappointed. Visually it looked like a game the switch would struggle to render at over 5 fps. Still hoping to see switch version of xx make it outside Japan

The "this isn't MH" cries are delicious. Almost enough salt to start a business selling it atm

@AugustusOxy Even though Capcom already stated it's not a spin-off?
https://twitter.com/dubindoh/status/874525954709757952

This is just a stab in the back from capcom. There is no good reason not to bring it to the Switch. Because of that ill skip monster hunter, unless they reveal a new entry exclusive for the switch. Not the 3DS Port, thats just being lazy.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE This is actually the first time I read your comment and completely agree

I'm extremely mad right now. Monster Hunter's not going to be on Switch, and neither is Undertale.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE being fair monster hunter did start on the ps2

Though I can't complain: I have a ps4 and a PC :')

@tiwo91 well the series did start on PlayStation.

The game doesn't feel quite the same. If you look at something like Monster Hunter Online, that's the vibe I'm getting: a game made for a very specific audience, using the best tech for mass appeal but very much with a personal twist to it. We'll have to see more to judge fairly, but I don't think that Calvin has forsaken Nintendo by any stretch of the imagination.

@JohnnyC MHW is PS3 assets at best. Wouldn't be a painful job to downgrade to switch.

Your are acting like it's done graphical powerhouse. It clearly isnt

I don't know, I feel there's a reason they chose not to call this MH5. It looks somewhat 'westernized', If that makes sense. Feels more like a spin-off than mainline.

Seems more like game to get people into the series. If Nintendo are smart they'll secure MH5 on Switch and enjoy a larger potential fanbase created by this game a across other platforms.

XX and Monster Hunter Portable 2018 are likely releasing to Switch (as well as subsequent entries), but World looks like the Monster Hunter I want.

Looks like I'll just buy them all, hahaha.

But seriously a real move from Sony. They don't need and shouldn't want to have all the games on their platform.

@Darkhound1999 It's developed by the main Monster Hunter team that has made every numbered entry so far.

@Mogster when are people going to wake up.lol that means nothing.Wii,ps3 and 360.Wii sold better then both and didn't have the best graphics. It did out sell both lol

I don't really mind. Game looks fun and if it reviews well I'll get it. Just another advantage of owning both consoles.

Not sure the Capcom would have liked that crowd reaction after the trailer was shown. Lol

Literally no response.

I love that a huge complaint about MHW is that it's open world looking so far. Just because it's not crippled by underpowered Nintendo hardware means they CAN do these new and better things. Instead of linking all the small individual areas of the map, it's now one big area.

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I'm excited, can't wait for this.

Where will Japan buy Monster Hunter? Portables.

Where will the West buy Monster Hunter? Discount bin.

The Cirlce-jerking (is that the right word for this?) regarding Switch is disgusting and I thought better of Capcom. I may actually boycott XX on Switch, even if it solidifies to Capcom that Worlds is the way to go, I just find it such a low blow overall.

Yes it may have started on Sony systems, but it gained traction on Nintendo. Just as the Switch is one of the best (imho) compromises between the more home-console inclined West, and the portable ruled Japan, this pops up.

I need to see more information about what Worlds really is, but them saying it's not a spin-off has me think Nintendo has been Ded over and is now seriously losing traction because of this.

The two best-selling Monster Hunter games are still the PSP ones I believe.

As long as switch gets a proper monster Hunter I'm happy. This may or may not be fun, but it isn't it.

@Grudgebearer PSP made MH what it is today, not Nintendo.

Wow, so glad I decided to order the parts to build a new gaming pc instead of a switch!

@Menchi187 I didn't say that was not the case did I? As far as I know, it seems to have gotten traction on Nintendo systems, but eh, whatever. Sony has struck a very low, but telling blow with this crap, and I'll use the money for XX to upgrade my PC instead. F you Capcom.

This, coupled with - brace for impact - Skyrim VR - was, hands down, the most utterly, despicably spiteful announcement we got yesterday.
We got the ultimate proof that not even Monster effbombing Hunter is safe from third-party exclusives not being exclusive any more.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE you have been able to play MH spin-off games for YEARS now on PS4 and Vita (the MH Frontier games). This is just another spin-off.

@AlexSora89 you have been able to play MH spin-off games for YEARS now on PS4 and Vita (the MH Frontier games). This is just another spin-off.

@manu0
It's true, but for the last few years Monster Hunter was the one third-party franchise we could count on. This feels like a backstab even more than Rayman Legends back in the day.
Yep, they out-ubisofted Ubisoft (which, ironically, showed off a stronger-than expected game as a Switch exclusive).

@manu0 But then, as people have already linked, what is this? https://twitter.com/dubindoh/status/874525954709757952

Eh, I'll get the PC version and play it in 60fps and 1440p next year.

I already like the faster combat in this version and don't mind most of the changes as I've wanted a slightly different and more faster-paced MH game for years now.

I am definitely getting XX on my Switch though too

@Grudgebearer interesting. but he's only saying that so that people don't underestimate his game. If it was a true sequel they would've called it MH 5.

@manu0 Maybe they seek to do away with the numbered part? Making it world due to being on every console (save for Switch)? I don't know, but I can't help but feel backstabbed by it. At least have it on Switch too, then it has the right to be called World.

@AlexSora89
I wouldn't jump to the conclusions though to say MH isn't going to be releasing on the Switch Capcom knows it makes money for it, probably will be developing portable versions i.e. XX etc. There is mention Capcom wants to open up the series to a bigger audience so I chalk that up to just business. If it feels like a backstab than you're taking it way more personal than it should be in the end they're just games, besides it's early announcements will come, don't always look towards E3 with so many trade shows and specifically TGS geared towards Japanese games sometimes you just have sit back and wait

@Haru17 Source? Because the Dragon's Dogma director teased that he was working on a new game a couple years back and then later said it would be announced this year.

@AlexSora89 @SLIGEACH_EIRE If the rumors are anything to go by, Capcom has little faith in the game itself (1.5 million sales target) and the main series team is plugging away on Monster Hunter 5 for Switch.

Sigh, this was one of the big titles that I was waiting to come over to the Switch. Oh well.

@CrazedCavalier "and the main series team is plugging away on Monster Hunter 5 for Switch" got a source for that?

To those wondering about XX, don't forget they're releasing MH Stories later this year outside of Japan. I would think they'll want to make as much money off of that from the Nintendo crowd before saying "Yes, we have a proper one coming next year you could wait for instead!". Granted, World might have some effect sales wise, but then not everyone owns every system.

My guess? After the Spring release of World, a 2Q/3Q release for XX (Or Generations 2 or whatever they call it.). I'm sure much like the rumors of Sony making sure Capcom don't release it on the Switch, Nintendo will no doubt be making sure Capcom get XX outside of Japan the best they can.

And hey who knows, maybe the lack of portable will end up being the low blow that ensures World doesnt sell as well as other games. Too bad Sony dropped the ball on a certain handheld (Yeah I know it still gets new games in Japan, but I don't think a lot of those are even by Sony if any...)

@Grudgebearer It's clearly not the main team working on this, and the 4chan rumor actually seems largely vindicated (outside of naming-- said this would be MH5 and the "Portable" series would see a revival). It called darn near everything else.

@CrazedCavalier But people in here say the opposite, as Kobashi100 says "It definitely hasn't got me hyped. Doesn't look like a MH game to me. It isn't some B team spin off though. The lead developers are the same guys who work on the main MH games.

I am more worried that MHXX will not get localised to be honest."

@Grudgebearer The lead planner from MH4 is involved, but that's it. Too early to say.

Huh, must be the first MH video I see that doesn't have a Palico in it. I hope the game still has them, though.

The developer says it's not a spinoff, but the implied recipe and the lineup does give off a vibe of something tailor-made specifically to try and appeal to the western home console enthusiasts of terafloppin' eye candy and measuring games in vague capital letter combos like past generations measured them in "bits". It's not just no mention of Switch (the console on which the first pre-orders of a souped-up 3DS port went poof as fast as Japanese gamers' browsers could open the page), but come on, a Monster Hunter that comes back to PlayStation and skips VITA? You know, the epicly underrated (and in some regions, epicly undersupported) HANDHELD whose sales roughly equal PS4's in Japan? And technically a game needn't be a spinoff to step aside from the common formula - look at Final Fantasy with two MMORPGs among the numbered flagships (and a real time tactics game among the numbered sequels, too).

Still, cheers for PlayStation finally getting a Monster Hunter game again - unlike with Shin Megami Tensei, the irony seems to be coming to an end here. XBox and PC camps can finally get a taste of the franchise if they so wish, too.

Of course Switch isn't getting it. It's not a port.

@Tru80zGamer
Honestly, "business reasons" is the kind of PR-talk we've heard way too much so far.

@CrazedCavalier
Wow, if even that is lack of faith, what even happened with Mega Man?

@BornInNorway81 I haven't read the entire thread and you probably received your answers by now, but lets put it that way:
There is a reason why the series switched almost entirely to handheld platforms.
And the Switch is the perfect platform in that regard.
Its hard to imagine that the MH series will leave handhelds behind anytime soon, and since there is no competition for the Switch on that sector at the moment, its a safe bet that MH on Nintendos devices is all but dead.

World will certainly do good in the west, which is far more home console oriented but they also received a LOT of concerned tweets, mails etc about how "true" World sticks to the tried and true formula. So take it with a grain of salt, but the core audience will probably stick to the handheld / "classic" games none the less.

Bottom line: MH on Switch is portable, which has been MHs main market for decades. It will be a nice change of pace, but i doubt it will be a hard replacement.

Not a good way to wake up this morning, and it was supposed to be a good day too...

@Ensemen "Furthermore the source says that Sony specificaly paid Capcom to not release it on switch, probably because they want to reduce nintendo switch sales in Japan"

I don't think Sony bosses were born yesterday. Switch sold full stock in Japan before MHXX port was even announced. The launch day lineup on the isles had DQH dilogy, Disgaea 5 and more; DQX already has a release date and DQXI is confirmed. They'd have to blow a lot of money on bribing it all away from Switch... while Nintendo goes and releases Splatoon 2. Insert GTA's "WASTED" screen here in its most literal application. XD

Saw this last night and was just floored with how lame it looked. Such a radical departure from what I know and love. Pretty clear this is aimed at the western flashy game crowd.

I am warming up to it a little more this morning, but there's still so many concerns (machine guns? handholding, drop in co-op means no difficulty balancing for MP, no quests, timers gone which leads to a whole new set of concerns, and how many of the core systems have been dumbed down).

The fact it's barely has a higher sales goal on PS4+X1+PC combined than MH4U and Generations sold in the West... tells me there's a reason for their lack of faith.

I'll for sure give it a chance. It doesn't seem completely hopeless at least. But I'd rather have XX. Just give me my core game and I'm happy

@CrazedCavalier What the hell does this have to do with Dragon's Dogma?

Anyway, Capcom's mainline Monster Hunter studio are making this mainline Monster Hunter game.

https://twitter.com/SocksyBear/status/874525169460576256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W62j4xfq_yQ

I think it's great that MH is finally releasing on PS4/XBO/PC. The details are what will really matter for me with this one.

What was that green sparkly thing that the player kept doing?
Will it have a F2P model?
Are the newer weapons going to be in?

I am not bothered, but sure this is a big blow for Nintendo. It would have send Switch sales through the roof in Japan!

@Haru17 Capcom Japan itself is pretty large-- outside of the project planner, how much of the core team is actually on board?

And a lot of people were saying it looked like DD with an MH skin (the wisp effect is apparently straight-up lifted from that game).

@JaxonH Actually, isn't a simultaneous worldwide release? They're just not promoting it in Japan because... yeah.

@AlexSora89 Remember, RE7 is targeting 10 million units still.

@Freek Aren't you a fan of good graphics then?

@CrazedCavalier
I will say, it looks far more promising than it did yesterday.

I think my initial shock reaction was how far of a departure it is. But now that the shellshock is wearing off, and some reassuring details are coming to light, I actually feel a spark of hope

But ultimately it all comes down to whether or not they dumbed down the combat system, weapon complexity and sharpness system, whether animation frames are still in tact, difficulty has not been compromised, armor and crafting system still as deep, meticulous gameplay and i-frames are still in tact... etc

Cause if it doesn't have that, then it doesn't matter how much it looks like MH. However, if it somehow does... I will do a complete 180 on this game on the spot.

Ball's in their court. They've got western non-fans on board just on flashy graphics alone. But if they wanna sell me I need to see substance.

@JaxonH "I'll for sure give it a chance."

There's no way you'd be able to keep yourself from buying this. You may not like it, but you know you have to see for yourself.

"timers gone"

That's reason enough for me to try it. I kept trying to kill that bird-like boss in MHTri on Wii, i think it was the 2nd boss, maybe the 3rd, and I could get it crippled and crawling away but I never could kill it before time ran out. I did all the rest of the missions available but the game wouldn't let me progress.

You play FF12? The most boring FF story until FFXV released, but the best 100 hours of monster hunting after that. I always referred to that game as FF:MH. Not sure if there will ever be a MHW2, but I think people will give this a go. Unless it gets too pay2win, then people will tune out.

I think it's a real shame about it skipping Switch though, graphically I wasn't impressed in the least so I know Switch could run it. May have been the worst looking game at the conference last night, I don't count PSVR as I'm still not on board. If it has couch co-op my kid swill play the heck out of it though, they played those lame arena co-op battles in MHTri all the time.

No amiibo so it isn't a real MH game.

You torn about Skyrim VR vs Skyrim Switch? I know you've been waiting on Skyrim, but you also spent $400 on PSVR. I hate first person so it's an easy call for me, plus I bet the VR version doesn't have gyro arrow aiming. If Nintnedo announces a VR helmet for Switch today people are gonna lose it.

@JaxonH If you checked Haru's thread, a UK community manager has been pretty open about stuff. All 14 weapons types return, potions are still a thing (the crummy red hit effects may have been just for the trailer), and the stamina and sharpening systems are intact.

There's extra footage out there that shows Anjanath being knocked over like a brute wyvern and the GS user upswinging and blocking (which sends him back a good ways). All using the animations you'd expect.

It honestly depends on if they butcher the crafting system or not and if the world isn't too obtrusive.

I am sure this is just a spin-off for western audiences. Japan is still (by far) the biggest market for traditional MH and Switch will be the biggest platform in Japan so MH5 will go to Switch.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I don't always agree with what you say, but this time you have hit the nail right on the head.

I will probably pass on XX and will only pick up a dedicated MH built from the ground up for the Switch.

This is disgusting and ridiculous that Capcom would dump the fanbase platform that has kept this franchise going for the last ten years and then NOT bring it to the console that IS the future of online gaming.

Monster online anywhere in the world using my mobile as a hotspot or using WiFi while I'm out and about? Could have jumped into a huge beutful world from anywhere in this world and instead I'd have to be glued in my front room to my ridiculous PS4? Won't be buying this on PS4 and only hope Capcom relent and realise they should be bringing this to Switch.

Unless they are in the throws of building a full MH title solely for Switch, which is what all companies need to be doing. Porting PS4 isn't gonna happen, but if the Switch userbase numbers warrants it's own build, there'[s a chance that Switch could eclipse PS4 and become the dominate platform for developers.

@CrazedCavalier
It all comes out in the wash, as they say. If it's a true MH game, then it can prove itself on its own merits.

But if they're willing to abandon quests, abandon timed hunt mechanic, if they're willing to throw away the closed circuit areas in favor of open world simply because that's what's popular with western gamers... then I have to question what else they compromised or abandoned in the interest of "western appeal".

@kobashi100 I agree it isn't. The ps4 and xbox one have relatively common, easy-to-use architecture for developers. The Switch is clearly different. If it wasn't, we'd see other developers releasing more of their games as it would be easy to port more of their titles. I highly doubt they don't want the extra revenue that another format would bring. For whatever reason, they don't see the extra work as justified.

Im sure nobody outside of Japan cares anyway. And don't fret, Capcom is no doubt prepping Super Mega Monster Hunter Generations XXX Tic Tac Toe for the Switch, with a trailer dropping 2 days after the launch of XX on the Switch.

Now the double cross name makes sense.^^

It could be they didnt give world a number for potential new customers. At least i dont really like to jump into a new series that already has many digits.

The game looks stunning but.... Something feels off. It's like they took the soul out of monster hunter. I didn't see one goofy moment.

@Ichiban
My concern is this will replace localizations of the main games on Switch.

Which would be a potential double whammy. Not only is the western releases not on the system Is prefer to have them on, but we'll never see a core game again until the next main entry which could be years away for the West.

@rjejr
Of course. You know me too well. If they actually confirmed XX for the West I could breath easy and actually try to look for things to enjoy about this westernized MH. But until that happens, I'm just frustrated because I'm dying for the core experience on console. I want XX. Need it.

@CrazedCavalier
Honestly, it skipped Nintendo consoles, so while it's sad to see something similar happen to another beloved franchise, for once the blame won't be on Nintendo consoles' own low sales.

This looks really bland and gray. Not too fond of it.

Honestly, some of you are overreacting over to this news. Is everyone simply going to assume Capcom is going to walk away from the portable market that made Monster Hunter such a popular franchise?

This is not the first time Capcom has put out handheld and console versions of Monster Hunter at the same time. Did some of you forget that Monster Hunter 3 landed on the Wii at the same time as the PSP games?

Or that there have been a few Monster Hunter games on the PS3, Xbox 360, Vita, iOS, and Android at the same time as the 3DS games? Most of you likely know nothing about them because they never left Japan.

So, Capcom is not screwing over anyone. Monster Hunter 5 will arrive on the Switch at some point. Capcom is not going to walk away from the handheld market with the MH games. Not with the popularity of the franchise in Japan.

If anything, Monster Hunter World is catered more towards western games by being on PC and home consoles.

This is basically the Monster Hunter MMO that people have been wanting since the original PS2 entry. Monster Hunter was originally for the PlayStation series, being on Nintendo is just a more recent chapter of MH's history. No surprise it's not on NS, this title is meant to max out the consoles, and go even further on PC.

It's a shift in focus, so fear not. Mainline Monster Hunter titles will still release on NS, and likely future Nintendo consoles. No need to overreact as if Nintendo is getting the short end of the stick, or that it's some kind of loyalty issue. This is the tradeoff for having a weaker console than the competition. That's the reality of the situation.

If I were grand poobah of the Universe, I would issue a divine edict making it illegal for third parties to publish games on consoles without also publishing on Switch.

Such a grand Universe that would be...

@AlexSora89 You do realize Monster Hunter debuted on the PS2, and was a major selling point of the PSP before it jumped ship, right?

Don't take this the wrong way, but you could make the argument that Sony fans got screwed over by watching a game that sold PSPs jump ship to Nintendo.

Did you feel bad when the 3DS Monster Hunter games failed to show up on the Vita?

Its the nature of the game market. As an Xbox One owner, I've had to deal with the bitter taste of watching some cool games not make it to the system, even if their prequels made it to the 360 and first Xbox.

Besides, this is not Monster Hunter 5. This is clearly a spinoff aimed at the western market. And what's the best way to target the western market? Build it one major home consoles.

@Caryslan I'm kind of surprised there aren't more people who reacted the way you are. But well, Nintendo fan site and all. Just look at the comment above your last one. Eesh.

@MisterKorman Except that judging by breath of the wild, it is more than easily possible to produce a full and seemless open world that looks stunning.

The PS4 and Xbox are boring and I am bored of having "POWER" shouted at by the two most unoriginal platforms ever created by anyone. The Switch is the first real evolution in gaming since the PS3 and is up there with generation defining hardware such as N64, Dreamcast and PS3.

I'm bored of the PS4 already.

skipping the Switch in favour of giving people irrelevant graphic engines is just short sighted and ultimately not delivering the best experiences they could be doing.

I own a PS4 so I'll be good either way, but if this turns out to be the "next" MH game, I feel that Nintendo just lost a weapon in their dwindling arsenal. My gut instinct is that this is just a spin-off. I kind of think we'll get MH5 next year for the Switch.

@JaxonH Actually, it looks like they just masked area transitions-- the swimming segment, pushing aside the curtain of brambles, could all be there just to mask load times.

Though I am saddened by rumors from the neogaf insider pipeline (who predicted this) saying XX likely won't get localized.

@Torterror I first played MH when it first released on PS2... This isn't any more bland and gray than any other MH title.

@CrazedCavalier Yeah, pretty much. Those vines gave away the huge reveal that MH World will be seamless in the wilderness areas. Having to keep all that data able to be loaded on call strains the relatively anemic NS hardware too much. It's not just about "t3h grafix!!1" as some here believe. It's also about video and system memory. Having only 4GB of shared system memory is a bit too anemic for titles like this at this point.

@CrazedCavalier
I Will be fuming if they don't announce XX for the West.

I swear it's like Capcom has a personal vendetta against me.

Eh I can play it on my PC, I will miss local multiplayer though...Finding a hunting hall at a con and sitting at there table in game and irl was nice. Shooting the poop and talk about how bad that MH panel was. It's something that will be missed.

My biggest worry is the loss of charm. If they are going to appeal to the western audiances would this gain this aesthetics of Skyrim? I love silly stuff MH had, I didn't even hear the cooking meat jingle...how will I know when my meat is "So Tasty"?

@JaxonH I'm just more annoyed than anything that an utter donkey of a youtuber I used to follow is jumping for joy because "open world and none of that anime crap".

Now I'll skip double cross on Switch.
But probably will buy World.

What I want is a monster hunter game with online and chat! If that is world or MH5 then I'm there.....what I know is it's not some rubbish 3DS port that dumped voice chat long ago!

@Caryslan
I'm well aware of this aspect, but we can't deny that Sony is also the company that, together with the much more sportsmanslike Microsoft, gobbles up a lot of stuff that doesn't have to be exclusive to Nintendo but shouldn't skip Nintendo either. For every title either of them "loses", we lose two or three third-party exclusives. Square-Enix is basically on a leash, albeit it's loosening up with Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III being multiplatform. Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy, however, never reach Nintendo consoles outside of the pre-3DS-only remakes and spinoffs. Seriously, the 3DS would have been perfect for Final Fantasy VI or, say, V remakes, but nope, here are Theatrhythm, Explorers and Pictlogica instead. Kingdom Hearts leaves only side-stories on Nintendo systems, while the bulk of the plot-advancing entries (plus remixes and remasters of all "Nintendo exclusive" games) is still tied to Sony home consoles.
So yeah, with Monster Hunter giving Nintendo the symmetrical gesture we all know and love, we're back to square one: "we've still got Mario and Zelda". Third-party support doesn't have to be exclusive, it just has to be there.

@JaxonH I have always said MH will never be a huge seller in the west regardless of the platform it is released on. The series is too niche, even this game which will be way more beginner friendly won't sell massively.

The idea that if you release MH on PS4 sales in the west will be huge is just laughable

I still don't really know what this actually is. What I do know is it now has a severely chilling effect on MH as a whole for me, and I suspect I won't be the only one. As capcom tries to "Westernize" and seek a "larger auidence", they're clearly shoveling money like no tomorrow at this, and I'm not sure if they're going to see much reward for that. The west isn't clamoring for MH. The West barely knows what MH is. The audience it DID have, such as myself, liked it because it was a quirky, strange, but otherwise rewarding and addicting game. Seeing it as "yet another bland environment generic story open world action game", makes me certain to pass by it in favor of a dozen other titles. That makes it less likely that "real" MH gets localized in the West, and even if XX does, it makes me a lot less interested in committing much to the series since I now don't know the future of the series. If it's moving toward bland open world action game, I'll almost certainly ignore MH from now on. So it's gone from "cool niche title on Nintendo platforms" to "I'll wait a gen or two to see where it goes." Of course this thing may crash and burn faster than Don Mattrick, and then they'll come crawling back to Switch customers like nothing happened. I'm not really fond of that either.

TL;DR: Good job breaking it, hero!

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Sadly, there is no loyalty in any industry anymore, and not even in general among individuals. Once upon a time, to a degree, there was such a "gentlemans agreement" between companies and people. Today it's about getting what you can get while you can get it, highest bidder always wins (unless it's a government contract and the lowest bidder is your brother's wifes, third cousin twice removed.)

Ugly as it is for Nintendo, it's an uglier statement about the present state of the "civilized" world.

@NEStalgia 1.5 million sales expectations for the next "big" step forward in their bread winning franchise definitely doesn't scream a lot of confidence.
Probably not a lot of budget put into it, either.

@PlywoodStick Don't forget Capcom insisted Nintendo add more RAM (which they did.) That was a weird request that I don't know if it's just for no reason or what. Given Lego, Skyrim, BotW, possibly Odyssyey (we'll see later) are all seamless open world, I don't really see that as the limitation here though.

@CrazedCavalier 1.5M? Ouch. (chanting) WE'RE NUMBER TWELVE! WE'RE NUMBER TWELVE!

The graphics indicated big budget. But with a 1.5M expected sales...I wonder what exactly the point actually is? That's less than triple the sales the series had on WIIU. On THREE other platforms. That's just weird all around. If anything maybe it indicates they're abandoning "real" MH in the west, but will continue producing it in Japan?

@Haru17 Really? Well damn, I thought it was a subsidiary or something. At least that'll ensure some polish to the game then?

@Zyph Looks like a X and XX situation. Not a spinoff but not a flagship title either. Also, an estimated 1.5 million sales? That's a terrible sales number for mainline MH games. MH X sold more than double that as a non-flagship title.

The most telling aspect though is that it wasn't announced during a Japan-centric event. The biggest market (by far) for the series is the Japanese, specifically portable part of that market. It's clear they're targeting people that normally wouldn't buy MH. I can see if this does well, that Capcom will start making flagship titles for other consoles to capitalize on the newer Western MH fans though.

@NEStalgia It's barely more than what 4U sold in the West.
Rumor has it that much of the team is dissatisfied with the game and that it was nothing more than a side-project for Capcom overall.

And who knows how many assets were recycled from Deep Down/Dragon's Dogma and the like.

I don´t understand what is all this fuzz about.
This will probably be an online MMO just like Frontier G was. And in case people don´t know, Frontier G was launched for Xbox360, PS3 and PC in Japan and was not available in any Nintendo platform.
After all, by the trailer, it doesn´t seem like a traditional MH game, it feels more western-focused, although we still haven´t seen any gameplay footage yet

@PlywoodStick Honestly it's possible (if not probable) "not on Switch" has less to do with "Switch can't run it" and more to do with this being "something MH for stupid gaijin playing other systems." While Switch gets the one that looks worse, plays better, and, you know....sells? But I fear it also means the "real" one on Switch is Japan only. (Even if XX gets a localization, the next may not, etc.)

@CrazedCavalier LOL. Deep Down. I can't stop laughing.

Interesting info though.....that makes a lot of sense. It also ties into how there was little fanfare for it. "MH on PS. Box checked."

Seeing this kindda hurt me. This looks amazing. XX looks like it's from 2002. Wish I saw this coming.

@NEStalgia Well, consider this:

http://nintendoeverything.com/more-talk-of-nintendo-improving-switchs-memory-and-capcom-targeting-re-engine-for-switch/

http://jp.gamesindustry.biz/article/1702/17022102/

(Sorry, don't have JP translator on my phone.)

If it weren't for pressure from third parties such as... Capcom... There's a possibility that the NS would have less shared system memory. Thus, Nintendo originally proposed less than the 4GB of LPDDR4 in the released NS, which is already too anemic for titles such as MH World. It's not so much about the graphics these days, it's more about memory. That's the tradeoff of having less specs. But Nintendo should still get titles like MH XX no problem. I wouldn't be surprised if the MH titles on Nintendo's systems continue making them more money than MH World and such...

And what's this? Now you're the one with the pessimistic comment?

@NEStalgia
Sorry man... this is a total loss for Nintendo. If this was on switch we would be going crazy

@NEStalgia Sony approached them and said "Make an MH game for the west. We'll pay for it. Put it on whatever but keep it off the Switch."
Capcom isn't risking much-- all they need is for it to break even.

Meh, I'll stick with Double Cross.

Who cares if you people consider this a "true" Monster Hunter game or not? The only thing that matters is that it's coming for EVERYTHING but Switch. This was always going to be the danger with having a weak console, and we're seeing it again and again and again.

If this had been announced for Switch as well, people would be thrilled. This sort of attitude, to say "It doesn't look good," just because it's skipping your console, it isn't helping.

@crimsoncavalier agreed. Everyone is just as butt hurt that this isn't on switch. They just hate to admit it. I'm seriously getting a PS4 just for this. I'm tired of missing out on everything cause I'm a Nintendo fan

@NEStalgia Oh pfff, see this is why mobile sucks. I was spending all that time because my browser, Fennec Fox (Firefox on Android) crashed trying to load a data heavy site while I was trying to find a source for Capcom asking Nintendo to increase the shared system memory, and you already noted it!

But yeah, mainline entries on Nintendo platforms will outsell MH World no problem. It's practically going to pay for the MH World servers.

@Corgi559 Stop being loyal to consoles then. I own a PC, PS4,Switch, and I'm gonna get a Xbox One X when a Tales of Vesperia gets BC support. I'm worried because I like playing a handheld when bored outside at an my lical coffeeshop, and the charm might be lost to make this a toothless western game in MH's skin.

@Corgi559 I didn't get a Switch, and this is the reason why, and now I'm glad I held off. I hate to say it, because I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but the Switch is going to flop just as hard as the Wii U.

@crimsoncavalier Except the sales of games like MH XX will be whole number multiples greater than that of MH World... Which will result in the opposite of a flop...

See, this right here is the problem with Nintendo consoles of late for me: The fans get all hyped over basically a port of a 3DS game . . . and then we get to see a proper next-gen-level game in the series, but it's coming to the competition's consoles only--and it looks far, far better than what's coming to Nintendo's systems. And that seems to sum up the trend and problem with Nintendo's consoles for the last few generations as far as I'm concerned.

@PlywoodStick Sure. Sure it will. The combined PS4, XBO and PC sales will not surpass the Switch sales. Okay.

@ThatNyteDaez It is indeed a traitorous act. Lol.

Ah, Capcom. You're a dying company dragging it's carcass to whoever has change in their pocket.

@AugustusOxy Well said my friend. Nintendo made sure to do just that with that contract.

@DonSerrot Not a spin off. Capcom confirmed it as a mainline game.

@LuckyLand Sadly that is business, I disagree with what Sony is doing. I hope they become more humble and honest in their practices. Not likely to happen. They did this because they are sensing the danger that the Nintendo Switch is becoming.

Ya know, if they'd just confirm XX I would get on board with this game right away.

What bothers me is that it's not in addition to, it's in replacement of

I'd love to enjoy this game for what it is... I just don't want it to be a replacement for the core game I love so much.

But this is Capcom. They'll refuse to localize XX and I'll be deprived of the core series I love so much

And I know that goes against my core belief of judging a game for what it offers rather than panning it for what it doesn't, but in this case I can't help but judge it for what it's not... because as of yet we have no core announcement for the regular game. This is why I see a lame attempt at MH rather than an awesome new side experience to enjoy. I NEED the core game. Without it... I won't get over what this game is not

@Corgi559 I'm not sure about that still. My first impressions was that you were right. But....PS4 is dead-ish in Japan. XBone is deader than dead. Even WiiU is more alive than XBone. Frankly if Switch keeps getting "real" MH portable in Japan only, I think business wise Nintendo is just fine with the outcome. Sucks for US, maybe, but I doubt this can get in Nintendo's way. No way Japan's buying a bunch of XBones for this. Especially not with XX on Switch. And MH=Japan in the meaningful area (money...)

Capcom just did the stupid mistake of chasing a larger audience at the risk of fracturing their fan base. Apparently "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush" never translated to Japanese.

For the west it could mean this is what we get, or it could mean this flops and MH dies in the west entirely. It was never an anchor for Nintendo outside Japan, so that loss is all on Capcom.

@impurekind That's just the thing though. What makes this a "next gen" version. You summed it up by saying it LOOKS far far better. And it does. But that's just it. It's all about looks. This game swaps very deep gameplay for better looks. The customers for the competing consoles ever more focus on looks. Consumer surveys say consumers are primarily interested in looks. So more and more games on those systems are coming down to being about LOOKING cool in motion. Isn't that what movies are for?

So Nintendo gets moved into a niche...of people interested in gameplay more than looks. Some games DO manage both, but there seem to be ever fewer.

I'm not saying that as some bitter Nintendo gamer. I'm a PS4 fan as well....I was giddy with most of that conference. I ran down my pre-order setups for a few things after last nights show. But MH was just a WTF moment. This isn't "next gen" This is Capcom returning to the "westernization" obsession looking for COD sales numbers that nearly bankrupted them last decade.

@CrazedCavalier I think if Sony bankrolled it, it would be exclusive, not XBox and PC. Much as they may hate Switch and Japans Nintendo obsession, they're not THAT bad at contract negotiation No, this is Capcom. If they're calling it a main line game, apparently, this is MH5. Even if it destroys the series. Though we still know it has about zero hope of success in Japan, and given the choice of this + PS4, or Switch + XX, XX will outsell this monstrosity 10:1. There's clearly a reason XX was announced first.

that looked like the worst Monster Hunter game ive ever seen

DMC all over again, mainline will probably stick to Nintendo actually

@PlywoodStick No, that's just sloppy hardware usage. The memory is a "limitation" if you're trying to load the entire world at once. The question is why in the world would you do that? On a PS4/XBone the answer is obvious: Those 5200RPM HDDs aren't exactly going to be able to load data on the fly so well. On Switch where it's all SDXC and whatever NAND format the gamecards use, random access times and throughput times are excellent and the world can be loaded pretty fast on the fly. Not RAM fast, but it doesn't need to be RAM fast.

It's laziness because they can. The same philosophy that lead Windows to be the bloated mess it has become requiring insane hardware specs to run just a basic OS.

The other problem with more RAM is even LPDDR guzzles power. On a battery powered device, more is not always better. If we're talking about Battlefront, that might be a problem. We're talking about a game designed mostly around handheld play....

@Faruko At least someone remembers the dismal Capcom days when they tried to "westernize" everything and nearly Cap...sized. Bad things happen at capcom when that happens. Platinum exists largely because of that era. The monstrosities Inafune is putting out is largely because of that era.

@crimsoncavalier for crying out load. This not being released on switch has nothing do with power.

Just so you people know. It's only PS4 in Japan. No Xbox one release

@NEStalgia They helped fund SFV and it still came to PC. Considering how important MH is to Capcom (and some foresight), they could have easily got an Xbox One version in the contract. Sony seems to be getting full advertising rights anyways.

Considering the series' sales on 3DS, I don't see the brand dying globally if this fails conservative expectations.

@kobashi100 Explain to me then. Since you know so much.

@crimsoncavalier Do not underestimate the dark side of the Force.

...I mean, uh... the Japanese desire for Nintendo portable console system sellers...

Capcom being capcom here, they're chasing the money and taking low risks. I can't say I blame them, but i don't like it either. Maybe if XX sells well for Switch we'll eventually get a port of MHW down the road.....

Apparently the game is being Westernized. I am not worried about this "spin-off" (as I am assuming it is) not coming to Switch. I would only be concerned if MH5 skips the Switch.

@CrazedCavalier It's certainly a weird move. I can see them wanting to tap the huge western market. But I've never been convinced the western market would be interested in MH. Apparently neither are they so they made a different MH that's like western games.... I don't see how that could possibly end well. It depends how they handle Switch after XX though. XX will certainly be the biggest seller. But what they do next year matters most.

@PlywoodStick Switch is fine in Japan. MH is now less important than it used to be:

Monster hunter world looks pretty generic graphically speaking. I'll have to see how the gameplay holds up. It looks like a unreal engine 3/ gears of war/ monster hunter mashup. Not exactly riveting.

If Capcom made a monster hunter for switch that ran at 60fps with graphics akin to Bayonetta 2 then THAT would be THE MH game. Monster hunter world just looks a bit drab and soulless. If it plays like monster hunter though it'll be hard to pass up. Capcom has made no mention of Marvel vs Capcom infinite on switch either. Don't tell me switch can't run that.

Nintendo is up soon. I hope they have some surprises in store because so far they haven't convinced me to spend my hard earned cash on a switch yet. Mario doesn't cut it for me. So far the new games I want are with the other guys. Which includes Dragonball fighter(z) by Arcsystem works. I'm a huge Xenoblade Chronicles fan. So there is that.

@PlywoodStick True, but the world is bigger than just Japan. Nintendo's biggest market is North America, the US in particular. Portability doesn't mean as much to that market as it does in Japan.

Honestly, if we look at the Switch sans BotW, the Switch would have tanked.

Doesn't matter if the game appeals or doesn't, the fact of the matter is hardware needs software, and the Switch is getting skipped, mere months after release.

It seems this is mainline MH, just without the number, from some of the reactions from the dev team, and from it being PS4 only in Japan.
What a shame, I wanted to try out MH5 if it came out, but I guess I'll skip this one. This points to the 4chan rumor being true, so maybe we'll see portable 5th down the road.

@JaxonH "If they actually confirmed XX for the West I could breath easy"

That's usually my line, then you say - "Stop being so negative, of course it will come."

As hard as it is for me to keep all of the MH games straight, since I don't play any of them, I do see your problem though. We got X, Generations, but no word on XX, which would likely be GenX in the West, but we dont' have a date yet.

But since we're switching roles this time, her'es my honest take. Gen X will come west, it's on the Switch. It's possible the 3DS version of Gen X doesn't come west if Nintedo really wants to move people to Switch - should have kicked Just Dance off of Wii 5 years ago, Wii U would have sold another 5 million. (Remember Wii Sports Club U? Neither does anyone else.) Maybe they wait for GenX in the West until after the holiday b/c they cant make enough Switch as it is. Or maybe they announce GenX on Switch in the west in an hour, releasing the same time as MHW.

So I'm annoyed Switch isn't getting MHW, doesn't make sense, but you'll get an English version of GenX. Maybe not on 3DS, but you've moved on anyway. I mean, why would anyone even want to play it on 3DS if they own a Switch? If you don't have a Switch yeah ok, but not if you do.

So enjoy MHW on your PS4, then wait for GenX on Switch in the west. Switch needs a MH game in the west, that's it. I don't have a timeline, but maybe we'll get one by the end of today.

You're welcome. You know, it's fun being positive for a change.

Oh, I am waiting on MH Stories, looks right up my alley. Not sure I'll get a 3DS or New 2DS XL to play it, price cut today wouldn't hurt, but I'd certainly get it on Switch.

@NEStalgia True, the PS4 and XB1 are going to be perpetually crippled by those ancient HDD's. The flash memory of the NS is far, far more efficient; a much better choice for use in a modern system. To be honest, I would be straining to refer to the PS4 and XB1 as modern systems, just because they use the same type of physical storage as the PS2 did for Final Fantasy XI 13 years ago. (Well, it was PATA back then, not SATA, but still...)

But yeah, every once in a while, 4GB of LPDDR4 isn't going to cut it. But no current console's memory can compete with the NVMe SSD's... Oh yes... It's so fast and light... Mmmmmmm speed...

Oh woah I was in a reverie for a moment there. Stop distracting me with delicious pudding! Or keep doing it... Either way works...

@rjejr
If XX doesn't get announced for the west... I may hang up my controller for good.

I can't stand to see my favorite franchise die off in the west with some western spun replacement.

If they don't announced XX in the West I'm gonna go into a state of deep depression. This is the absolute worst thing that could have happened.

If they do announce XX... I take back everything back and will happily enjoy both games.

I'm totally gutted this isn't on Switch. I'd have gotten it day 1, but as it stands (despite owning an Xbox One), I probably won't bother.

It doesn't look to have the gameplay that I've come to love from MH, so perhaps it's not a total loss. I think this is more of a confirmation that the Switch won't be getting the bigger third party games this gen. I know a lot of people have been hoping for graphically inferior 3rd party games, but I don't think that's going to be happening anymore.

I also don't think Capcom would be so stupid as to abandon the main series, unless for some odd reason this new game is insanely popular. They're likely working on MH5, or something else to follow on from MHXX for the Switch...

@rjejr ...and then Slig posted that the Switch is the console he's always wanted from Nintendo, and it just keeps getting better and better. And then I woke up.

@PlywoodStick There is nothing "Modern" about the Eraser, nor the Eraser Pro. Even the plastic feels and looks like a cheap import toy from Hong Kong from the late 80's. The VCR is "modern" in the way an all smoked-glass Hi-Fi console 6 feet long is modern. VCR X is actually slightly modern.....like a Ben Heck project for hacking a gaming PC into an old VCR case.

Switch is hyper modern in every way. While everyone berates how weak it is

Sorry, all out of pictures of delicious pudding. Would pictures of hand-drawn minors in undersized halter tops suffice?

If not you'll have to settle for this

Monster Hunter Shmonster Hunter......Nintendo's juuuust fine in Japan....

@Ernest_The_Crab Exactly. Even though they're saying this isn't a spin-off, it doesn't necessarily say it's also a [portable] mainline series, which is what Japan really wanted. Capcom wouldn't be stupid enough to neglect their own, original, healthy fanbase. With this game, they're trying their hardest to cater to the western community and jump in. It'll be fun for sure. But you won't get that charm having it on portable. I still believe there'll be a proper MH game on Switch down the road. Whether or not it complements World remains to be seen. But I'm still hopeful.

@Luna_110 I doubt it'll be called Portable though. With the docking and everything. Maybe something World to complement. Monster Hunter World G? XD

Why is everyone blaming Sony for this? Does anyone have proof that Sony is bankrolling this game and using a contract to keep it off the Switch?

As far as I know, Street Fighter V is the only game Sony bank rolled this gen.

@Zyph It's really REALLY weird they're calling it a mainline game when it's not portable. Considering the entirety of the player base plays it portable. Wouldn't that be like making a new Battlefield mainline game that's only for 3DS and saying "That's where the series is headed now?"

@NEStalgia Well MH1 and Dos was PS2(PSP) games. Tri was Wii(WiiU, PSP, PS3, 3DS), and 4 was 3DS. The series goes where ever.

Dosn't look that good sincerely, I don't get the pain of someone.

@NESTalgia I mean, the only games they consider spinoffs are things like the mobile games and Stories. It doesn't mean too much in and of itself. XX is as "main" as this game.

Absolutely LOVING the salt in this thread. Especially those immediately writing it off as a "betrayal", "westernised version of MH", "Not the real thing", "Looks like Gear of War", "Dumbed down" etc.

We don't know anything about the game yet guys, chill out. Personally, I was sort of intrigued by the apparent focus on actual "hunting", with the stealth, tracking and camouflage. The only thing that really concerned me is the lack of any actual combat shown. That sort of suggests the project isn't that far along yet, so an early 2018 release may seem a bit weird.

Totally not bothered by this being on PC/XBO/PS4 (why the hell would I?). I'll play it at a nice crisp 60fps on my PC (if it turns out to be any good). The only thing that could really make me annoyed is Capcom not localising MHXX, and it certainly looks like it's going to be that way

Wow the salt is real in here and time for tinfoil hats, Sony bankrolling MHW lol one of the most rediculous things i've heard all week. Also been confirmed its not a spin-off welcome home Monster Hunter.

I never played MH so I can't say if the game is a departure. As a noob who never played I tougher it looked enticing. Of course i need to see the gameplay, and I'm also not a fan of online games. So even with all that is going for it, I might not get it.

Looks like if they were aiming to "westernize" and get a new audience, it might work since I am intrigued. I'm sorry that it's. It on the Switch, as it is my preferred system of choice for convenience, but the PS4 is a nice system that millions have. And let's face it, numbers are always what a company sees, not loyalty.

I hope there is a valid entry on the Switch as well, but there's room for more than one console to get what is a global game.

I think people should just wait to see where Monster Hunter 5 goes. I just assumed world and generations were spinoffs.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
To be fair, you're talking about two franchises in MH and RE that made their debuts and earned their reputations on PlayStation platforms. In my view, it's just Monster Hunter returning home. What is ridiculous, however, is it gets an Xbox One release but they can't include Switch. Same stupidity SquareEnix does with Final Fantasy. Lets put our popular Japanese franchise on everything but the platform that does best in Japan.

So I think the lack of XX on Switch tells us that "Real" MH will remain confined to Japan, while "new westernized open world MH" is the only MH we're going to get. Which means MH is dead to us here unless we learn Japanese

@NEStalgia
Which would be proper ridiculous, because the Monster Hunter games are doing just fine in the west. Square seems to have the same mindset as Capcom: if it isn't going to be an absolute smash hit over here, it's not worth porting it over. It's annoying as hell. I suppose I'll just have to wait for the Fan Translation of XX then?

@NEStalgia No no no no no make it whole milk with cream. No skim no low fat give it to me whole. Double the age to young 30's with an oval pointed bust set away from the head bust and you've got a deal.

@Gamer83
That's not ENTIRELY fair to be honest. The PS4/XBONE versions are just ports of the same version. Developing a version for the Switch would mean developing a new version of the game on that hardware, considering the capabilities of that device. In fact, their engine/toolset (Luminous Studio), doesn't even target Nintendo hardware. That's not surprising considering the development history of the game. When development started, the Wii U was still a long way off. They already had to jump a whole console generation to the PS4/XBONE during development. What the hell do you expect at that point?

Nintendo made a clear point of going for underpowered hardware (which turned out just fine for the Wii and the 3DS for example), and missing out on multiplats is one of the consequences of that. I personally don't mind, that's what I have my PC and PS4 for, y'know.

@TheGameSquid They JUST got done bailing out of that problem that set most Japanese developers back decades from that exact mentality. They FINALLY dug out and started to realize that Japanese games can sell as Japanese games in the West. And now they're heading right back into that same mentality that nearly killed them. It's surreal.

MH appears to be dead in the West, at least this generation.

@Gamer83 But the Xbox has always done well in the west, especially the US. Why ignore it just because it does poorly in Japan?

The estimated number of Xbox Ones that have been sold is about 29 million. Its not a good idea for third-party developers to ignore those kind of numbers.

Way to much crying going on. It's not on switch, so what just suck it up. Ppl are acting like it's your God given right to have it on switch, it started life on playstation and its still on playstation, even 360 had a version, never mind guys you still have 12switch and many platformers to come. Seriously though, PRIME is coming, that should more than make up for it

@cfgk24 Aaaaaaaand we didnt

@Caryslan If what Cavalier was saying earlier is true, even Capcom isn't exactly expecting this thing to be a success with a 1.5M estimate. It sounds like they're not expecting much change in buy-in in the West across 3 platforms with this versus what they had on 3DS. But the bigger story is, in Japan, this is NOT Monster Hunter, meaning XX on Switch is real Monster Hunter (which is where most of the series' sales will come from.) If the Switch versions don't get localized that means the West misses out on the "real" MH games that are popular in Japan, and all we get is the "built to be mediocre" World game.

It's not really about Switch vs. Sony/XBox. The issue is Switch still gets the real series after all...but it may not leave Japan from now on.

@vampbl Plz wait lol

@cfgk24 well... I don't care actually. I've played japanese versions of games before.. this won't be something that will hold me up lol, also I have a friend that lives there so I will have it easier than before XD. I just really like MH

Probably a last ditch effort for the west, Monster Hunter for casuals.

Another dog act by Capcom, they've been on such a roll lately, $60 for USF2, no Disney game collection, no 2nd Mega Man collect, Resident Evil series just in general, but just when you think they've redeemed themselves, with MHXX and talks of porting their RE7 engine, they pull this nonsense. Now I don't mind that MH Worlds is on other consoles, but the fact that it's on everything bar the Switch just doesn't sit well with me. I thought these guys were a "big part" with Switch development and this is how they show their support for it? Give me a break.

Lucky Nintendo's E3 was good enough to allow me to care a little less about Capcom's BS, what with 2 Metroid games, 2 Mario games and a mainline Pokémon game coming to the Switch. Still, it doesn't sound like this is MH5, or perhaps MH Worlds will come later ("no plans right now" intensifies), so there maybe, just maybe some hope for them. Or maybe we'll just stuck with "Double Cross".

@locky-mavo Not to fuel the fire, but this should definitely be kept in mind in regards to all this: https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/capcom-monster-hunter-world-main-entry/

I cite: " As opposed, the recently announced Monster Hunter XX port for Nintendo Switch is being developed by the “B” team of the series, responsible for the spin-offs."

Looks hideous.

XX isn't going to be localized in order to boost the sales of the MH:Worlds according to an insider at Neogaf.

MHXX isnt coming to the west guys. guy from capcom UK confirmed on twitter. what a horrible way to treat the existing fan base!

@kobashi100 Got a link for that? As I sure can't find any of it.

@Grudgebearer https://twitter.com/SocksyBear/status/874767706716852224

@Folkloner Exactly. I WILL NOT be supporting that poo port of a game because they did this to us. I am starting to HATE the people that run the "new" Capcom, Konami and Square Enix. Even with the Nibelsnarfing sales they want to be LAZY game developers and do easy jobs for a quick dollar when they could take their time and make a FORTUNE!

@DEZn00ts No profanity, please...

@WaveBoy Few coins huh? Going to buy a ps4 for everyone?

Some people stick with Nintendo because of their exclusives and Nintendo has more exclusives on their system than Sony does. The main reason people are unhappy is because we want XX but we are apparently being abandoned so they can make the monster hunter game we didn't really ask for.

If you guys want the Monster Hunter series to last on the NS, I guess you all need to pay up and buy Monster Hunter XX.

Money Talks $$$

@Meaty-cheeky Can't buy it if they won't sell it.

Apparently - CApcom are "trying to achieve 30 fps" on PS4 And XBONE. . . . .Seriously?
All they have to do is translate MHXX and release it in the west . . .

This is bs capcom. And why the f*ck nintendo allowed that?
On PC they'll earn nothing because piracy, and on xbox one in America and maybe Europe about same amount because those players are mostly fifa/forca motorsport/COD and MH is hard core. In japan it's obviously why it won't sell because no xboxes in japan. So PS4 can sell some in japan but out of it , I'm not so sure.
I don't know.. time will tell but imo.. that wasn't smart move by capcom

@CroRock Nintendo can't stop it. What do you expect Nintendo to do. Capcom can do what they like.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE While I appreciate the sentiment, Capcom is still a business - and not a quaint little family-run business either.
So yeah, there is no loyality, but that has little to do with Capcom as such, or even the industry itself.

It made total sense to test a game like Revelations on the 3DS, as it featured a solid install base coupled with comparably low production cost, meaning you get a good sample size with little financial risk attached.
By the same token, moving beyond to substantial more powerful system for the sequel, meant the 3DS had to be left in the dust.

As for MH, it's a similar story I wager, plus the fact that it's still a Japan-centric series, and Japan is a handheld-centric market. Taking that into account, I don't think they'll abandon the Switch at all.
A new MH will certainly make it to the Switch in due time, but it certainly won't be this game, as I can see now way to port this over without compromising their vision for this game beyond repair.

As the article states, it's clearly an effort to push the MH brand in "the West", where homeconsoles and PC dominate, and visuals are an essential ingredient to success. If that is your agenda, and I think that is what this game is supposed to do for Capcom and their IP, then it would make have absolutely no sense having this game compromised by the Switch.

There is no way around the siginificant gap in capabilities between the PS4/X1 and the Switch, and this gap has only grown more substantial with the PS4 Pro/X1X.

It was always clear that this approach by Nintendo, cutting itself of from the potential of low-effort ports of games from competiting platforms, was a gamble, and that it would result in a very different 3rd-party landscape than that which we've got on the PS4/X1/PC.

The question is just whether the result on the Switch will be more similar to the 3DS or the WiiU in the end.
Still, this is a blow to Nintendo no doubt, but not a lethal one, and I certainly can't imagine that they were in any way surprised by this.

@kobashi100 My thanks.

@JohnnyC Bullocks! If they use a proper game engine, like Unreal Engine that has now native support for Nintendo Switch, scaling / downgrading should be a non-issue.

If a game can hit 1080p60fps on XBOne, then it should be able to hit 1080p30fps on Nintendo Switch docked and 720p undocked, without putting too much extra effort in it.

@Mogster
Who EVER said that?

@kobashi100 of course they can. Or at least can try. MH series sells their handheld for years in Japan. I'm not an expert but how they managed for Bayoneta 2 to be exclusive for Wii U?
Anyway, my opinion is that Capcom backstabed Nintendo and all their fans for making new main entry of MH forgeting all millions they put in pocket from Nintendo costumers and leaving them with poor 3ds port of XX with minimal effort put in that.
And that move has a name and it's called greed... and it will come with cost I hope.
I decided to buy Switch day one when they announce next main MH for it and now I'll buy it because of other games they showed us yesterday (hopefully they show some more today and tomorrow).. but no more Monster Hunter games for me. Not even XX port if they release it here in Europe.
So, yea.. Capcome can do whatever they want and with that move they lost me as a costumer. I don't have money for buying all new consoles and don't have money to build new PC because I'm poor as f*uck atm. That means I'm stuck with MH4U forever on my old 3DSXL

@eaglebob345 this is monster hunter 5 but named as world instent. it is officialy

A few points:

1) It would seem that MH:W has been in development for some time, predating the finalisation of Nintendo's hardware and probably scrubbing any chance of a release on Switch off the whiteboard.
2) MHXX is likely Capcom's way of keeping Nintendo sweet until a fully-fledged Switch game can be released.
3) In regards to that Switch title, it's likely to be closer in mechanics to MH:W as the hardware still lends itself to huge open worlds (see Zelda). Just not as graphically intensive.

So at the end of the day, there is no need to worry. Nintendo have been working very closely with Capcom, but you can't expect them to shoehorn a title in if it just doesn't fit. Switch will still be the go-to place for MH portable, which is where the heart of it's popularity lies in the East. Nothing like playing with colleagues on lunch then plugging in when you get home.

@Sammus2 It's Monster Hunter: World, ergo it is not MH5. If anything, it's a soft reboot with the hope that it will become more popular in the West.

@WaveBoy That's all well and good but you're assuming that everyone likes the exclusives on the rival consoles. I personally haven't found enough for the PS4 or Xbox1 to justify getting them, Nintendo is where I go to of I want more unique gameplay.

@Iggy-Koopa https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/14/capcom-says-monster-hunter-world-for-other-platforms-is-basically-monster-hunter-5/

I have literally zero interest in any of the games PS4 or xbox have on their systems so I would have to buy one of those just to play this. I'll pass. I don't think I'll buy it even if they do port it over to the switch in a year. It's not going to sell and the fact that they have such a low sales projection considering it's going to be on 3 platforms tells me they know that.

How did all these people deduce that this is a westernised (whatever that's supposed to mean) game. From a 2 minute trailer? Funny that these are the people that would revolt if anyone dared criticise Switch prior to its release.

@Corgi559
@crimsoncavalier
I did myself a favour and bought PS4. Lots of new and great games. I don't know how dead it is when it's getting Japanese games like Nier, Nioh, Tales of, Persona, Ace Combat...

@Kalmaro #228
Wii U got abandoned for a console we didn't ask for, as well...

@Iggy-Koopa they had their chance in the west on ps and vita or whatsoever.. so why they moved exclusively on nintendo last couple of years?! And why they think it will be a huge gamechanging success now? It won't. I can't wait for numbers to drop and money they lose with it.
Sure they have market experts but my prediction is it will fail. Lets wait and see

@Sammus2 it says its in development for four years. That means Capcom underestimated Switch which was in development at the same time because of Wii U failure. So be it. I hope they regret.

Now, if Tecmo Koei wanted to be sneaky, it could just bring the Toukiden series to Switch to fill the void....

@CroRock You are underestimating Japan, but I agree in general - there have already been games of this ilk that have bombed tremendously on PS4 and XBONE.

@Sammus2 Yet the tweets from the guy involved have stated 'it's Monster Hunter World', and denied that it's 5 in any way.

There is more to this than that.

@KappaBeta For good reason, it wasn't selling. The Switch, on the other hand, is doing perfectly fine and exceeding expectations.

@Jeronan MH World is using MT framework engine and Capcom are aiming for 1080@30fps on both Consoles.

Of course a switch version could have been developed. No desire from Capcom though.

On switch in general Capcom are not doing much

If this really is MH5 just not by name then I am shocked Capcom have gone away from the portable market.. don't see the logic to be honest and it's gonna hurt the franchise in Japan. People like playing together locally.

It sucks for friends and families in the west who have been playing MH locally for years but now can't as they only have one PS4 or one Xbox one in the house.

I doubt this will sell that well, I have tried to get people onboard with this series for ages and no-one in PS4 / X1 circles seem interested in this series.
The graphics look dated compared to Evolved which only sold to a small audience so do not think that this will take off as well as PS is expecting.
I will not be buying this and may even not bother with XX now as it seems like as usual Capcom are selling us out as they have now giving us 3 lazy iterations of MH4U whilst developing new for other consoles despite the fact that the series on Nintendo has kept them afloat.

I own a PS4 but refuse to buy this game for it, especially considering the graphical fidelity shown in the trailer was nothing so intensive it had to be on PS4. Ill stick to God Eater I guess.

@JaxonH I knew I'd get crossed up.

So anyway, how you doing w/ the whole XX thing? Mario looks pretty freakin sweet. I still think XX, Gen X, comes west, maybe only on Switch, maybe only on 3DS, but I think it comes. Actually since 3DS got X (Generations) makes more sense for Switch to get XX Gen X as it's first MH game in the West. I'm sticking w/ that. Announcement may be a ways off though as MHS still doesn't have a release date yet, just Fall 2017, and here we are at E3.

@Jeronan If that's the case then the developers must have signed a "we hate Nintendo" contract with their evil Microsoft and Sony overlords. It's the only other rational explanation. As you say, the hardware difference is incredibly easy to overcome.

I currently own a 3DS, Wii U, Switch, Xbox One S, iPad and a beast of a gaming computer. I would have considered this on Switch, but with too little free time to sit tethered to a TV set, I rarely game on the computer, Wii U or Xbox One anymore. So, I won't be buying this game or probably anything else from Capcom.

This does seriously feel like Capcom taking a poo on the MH fans that have been playing it on 3DS for years, the profits of which have helped keep Capcom afloat.

@KappaBeta "Wii U got abandoned for a console we didn't ask for, as well..." Define "we". I for one am far more happy already with the Switch than I ever was with the Wii U. Maybe you enjoy being tethered to your TV, but I'm a busy person who like to fit things in on the go. If I have the time to sit on the couch, I have my 4k TV and gaming PC that plays nearly everything in 4k at 60fps.

@WaveBoy
Yep, i have Sony+Ninty combo when it comes to hardware, I would never deprive myself of all the great games I could play. My fave combo was megadrive (Genesis) and SNES, though NES and master system was cool. N64 was ace, I didn't have time for psx, to busy playing multiplayer Goldeneye and sega rally on saturn. Your right though, if MH WORLDS was getting a switch release instead of been on ps4, everyone on here would be right up the backside of capcom instead of slaging them off. I have read it all before about Ubisoft, EA, konami but when certain games are announced they are the best publishers ever, if I was any of these publishers and after reading these comments i wouldn't release anything for them, just like EA probably won't bother after Fifa. There are some good ppl on here but also many ungrateful ppl aswell, they know who they are, I Base this on their comments and not just in this article but many others when things don't go their way, I say suck it up or buy another piece of hardware, no point in self inflicted misery when a game don't come their way

@WaveBoy Actually yes, I have very little interest in most of those games except maybe Z fighters. I happen to have a pc, that means that the vast majority of games coming out I'll get access to cheaper down the road. Sony does not have enough exclusives to get my interest and Microsoft tends to port their stuff to PC anyway, so if I want something unique I go to Nintendo, or maybe check out humble bundle.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE

Yeah, they really do. I am really tired of them smoking sony's you know what all the damn time. Even though Nintendo pretty much helped make them & really contributed to them keeping the lights on when they were about to go under. And I have seen some folks trying to make excuses for them talking about the psp made the series popular. Man get outta here with that crap. The series had BEEN around, but it was the 3DS that made it popular. The ps2 didn't even make it as popular as it is now. So psp? Lmao.

Anyway, capcom can go eff off with their sony blowing. And it is definitely not just this crap with here that has done it for me. The constant microtransaction crap with them, the fact that REvalations sequel skipped all Nintendo platforns after the first one did solid on 3DS opening the door for it, & screwing over the Xbox with SF5 for just a few examples. Capcom, I hope that you just die & some 3rd party with some sense & their nose not stuck between sony's cheeks gets your properties

I was going to just address just one fanboy in particular riding in on a wave of bull****, but seeing as it can apply to quite a few of these jokers, let's make it a mass response/rebuttal.*

To those that I've while lurking I've noticed are always pessimistic, hating & trying to call people fanboys, abetter question is why are some of you trying to call out fanboyism when you seem like a freakin' sony mark yourself? I wonder if anybody else notices some of your shilling hard AF for people to buy a ps4? Funny how it's coming to the Xbox One and PC, but all you're doing up here is trying to sell people on the PS4. GTFO out of here man! Lmao you're just as much if not moreso a fanboy as people you're calling out. Folks, don't listen to these sony Fanboys & undercover salesman trying to sell you on his/her favorite toy.

I wouldn't be surprised in this day & age that some of them are paid shills on the net trying to dissuade folks from other products. I mean how else can you explain some of this over exuberant pushing of certain brands on forums & platforms specifically catering to others. Why are they sitting up here d-riding ps4 when the game is coming out for Xbox & better than all consoles Pc? Why does it bother them so much? If they have moved on, why do they stick around & try so fervently to drop their clearly preferred toy maker's name so much? Like they have stock in, work for the company or get a dollar everytime they sau their name. Sorry, but fanboys & those with clear bias & agendaa shouldn't be the ones trying to call others out.

@Grudgebearer

That is part of what kills me. Do people get into the whole hissy fit crap sbout where games like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Castlevania & other games get popular or started at? Heck no, not at all. This bs argument only comes up when d-riding sony or something. As you never see most of these people with that argument & logic then.

@gameboy1975 Heh, no I suppose not. But you know, other people are too busy being happy with them getting MonHun "finally" even if others get left in the rain. People that own Nintendo systems in the West get NOTHING in the meanwhile, save for a HUGE middle-finger.

And EVEN if Capcom is planning a game, even if they will localize XX later, then the LEAST they can do is give an announcement, a heads-up so we know it's coming. No, instead, we have to send anger-waves their way to force a reaction out of them, Nintendo knows they barely give something as a response.

Yes, this comment section is salty but like Gameboy wisely said, All you people saying "Oh Get A PS4, Stop crying Nintendo Fanboys", "Sony getting All the Games","I have PS4, I have every single game created" or "Switch is More Dead than Wii U".

NEWSFLASH NO ONE CARES, This is Nintendo themed Site, not a Sony Advertisement. Yes, It's a spin off game of Other Systems so People shouldn't be Angry but The amount of Sony Shills see in this comment section saying Switch is dead because a Spin Off didn't come to Switch and People should move on to PS4 is cancer.

This article about a Spin off not coming Switch, Not a place to see how much PS4s you can sell for Sony.

Here we go. 3rd party jumping ship so soon. Im sorry but E3 was not good. No 3rd party support even showed up for Nintendo. I will stick with it myself. If Nintendo goes down. I go down with them. Ive had my fun for years and the ride with 3ds has been amazing. Was hoping the Switch ride would be amazing but for us older gamers the future isnt looking so bright. So far the Switch ride has been amazing with Zelda but I find myself uninterested in just about the rest of the line up. I am interested in more of the indie titles coming up than the retail games. Capcom picked a perfect time to do this. They will be hosting a bigger install base, so I really cant blame them. Its business. Something big needs to happen after the E3 smoke and mirrors we got. Whose going to step in?

@NabbitFan730 Just because this article is about a spin-off game that doesn't make it a fact. This website made a article right after the announcement since then the developers have confirmed things. Like this is Monster Hunter 5 a mainline game but thay went with calling it Monster Hunter World so people wouldn't be put of by the 5. Its also been in development for 4 years by the main Monster Hunter development team and that its a proper Monster Hunter game. Nintendo never owned Monster Hunter thay only had some many games exclusive because of Nintendo's deal with Capcom.

@banacheck Never said Nintendo owned Monster Hunter

It's basically MH5. It's a main game, just with no number.