Lucas DLC Confirmed for 14th June Release on Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS

Yay!!!! Lucas!

One 3DS order. One two-platform order forthcoming.

YESS, bring in Mother 3 aswell HYPE

$3.99 for one character???
The DLC pack for Mario Kart 8 costa $8 bucks and had 3 characters, 4 new karts and 4 new tracks!!!
Rip-off!!!

As much as I hate having an incomplete roster, I don't think I'm going to buy any more characters unless I'm VERY interested in them. $4 a pop is gonna really add up if they end up adding 7 characters (incl. Mewtwo & Lucas). I wish each new character was only one or two bucks tops.

@MikeW Maybe so, but I will be buying him. Smash Bros DLC must be more expensive to produce than Mario Kart DLC. But either way I'm glad to see more content for both games, as in the past we've had one version with no updates ever added.

I may pass on this.

YES!!! FINALLY! WELCOME HOME, LUCAS!!!

@icedude545 The last guy who asked for that got what was coming to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CePk795Xum4
But yeah, we can continue to dream of a day when we see Mother 3 as a Wii U VC title in North America and Europe in English.

I'll be getting both even though I've barely touched the 3ds version.

@Tsurii897 Lucas isn't really a clone though... His specials are similar to Ness's, but his A moves are all completely different. Plus, he has a tether recovery.

Sooner than I thought. But not sure I will get it.

@MikeW Probably related to the level of work and maintenance that goes into the fighter versus a MK8 driver. There's a huge amount of data and tweaking that has to be done for a SSB fighter. A Mario Kart 8 driver is essentially just a model.

I'm hoping they will release a character pack containing all the DLC characters in one go and at a reduced rate, but I don't think it will happen.

I'm kind of neutral towards Lucas....but I think I'm going to buy him on both versions if only because I have a favourite I'm hoping gets in as dlc and if each character sells super well it might encourage them to go further than they were intending.

Also confirmed that the Miiverse stage will be coming to Wii U and the Splatoon costumes will be available for purchase.

It'll be best for me to buy him on both versions since i plan on getting the wii u edition soon, LUCAS COMES OUT OF NOWHERE!

I'll get him, but I still think 5 bucks is a little too steep. Just saying.

@MikeW Yeah the prices are pretty ridiculous compared to Mario Kart and Hyrule Warriors

EEEEEH!

@MikeW A fighting game character takes a lot more to develop and keep the game balanced a lot more work will have gone into Mewtwo and Lucas way more than any character in Hyrule or Mario Kart. However compared to those games it does seem pretty expensive but compare it to other fighting games where characters can cost up to £8 its not bad at all.

This Lucas character doesn't look at all like Bayonetta. Work in that Nintendo. Pretty please.

Dude, Mewtwo cost more? Why?
Other than that small butthurty, I'm excited for one of my ace's to comeback.

Ah, so BEFORE Nintendo's E3 broadcast.

My one reservation about Lucas is that Ness has already been given Lucas' specials as alternates of his own, so it makes Lucas a bit less unique. Still, I can't wait to play him, and to see how he's been tweaked for Smash 4.

I'd rather some paid DLC that brings in different game modes. Like on 3DS, I like the concept of Smash Runs, especially when doing local play, but I'd like a version where after the 5 minute run you can choose more than just 1 final event. Adding the option to play from 1 to all of the final events with the stats you accumulated during that 5 minute run would be fun. Then award points based on standings after each event.

I don't know, just off the top of my head. I guess that's not really DLC, but just an update that would be appreciated to improve some of the modes already in play.

Though I would pay for a DLC stage creator for 3DS.

New characters at these costs aren't enticing to me.

miiverse stage and splatoon costumes coming too! https://twitter.com/DylthemanT/status/606854437827547136

Looks like his release date has only been announced for Europe so far.

@Tsurii897 You think Lucas is a clone do you? You said yourself that you're 'not into Smash much' so from a casuals point of view, okay.

Awesome news, I love Mother representing!

I won't get the DLC, but good for the folks who will.

@ALinkttPresent NOA confirmed that be out same day as EU
http://nintendoeverything.com/lucas-available-for-smash-bros-wii-u3ds-starting-june-14/

@MikeW That's the average price of character DLC for pretty much every fighting game. I won't argue that it comes off as a rip-off when compared to Mario Kart DLC, but Nintendo is in line with other fighting games.

What might not hurt for Nintendo is to either release DLC character bundle packs, or put out a Gold or Complete Edition of Smash 4 once all the characters and costumes have come out.

Personally, I don't mind the $3.99 price tag. I'll just cherry pick which characters I want anyway and ignore the rest. I did this on Dead or Alive 5, and it worked out pretty good.

So Roy for E3 Announcement then?

I will buy this the day I can finally buy a Ness amiibo.
Damnit, Nintendo.

Soooo... Lucas amiibo?

Lucas!!

I'll pass. I got Mewtwo and barely play him already and I'm not much of a completionist that I need to have every single character. I'll wait to see what other characters get revealed and save my meager 5 bucks for someone like Ryu lol

@Angelic_Lapras_King Nah, Ryu for E3. It'd make a bigger splash.

@DarthNocturnal Yeah, they'd have to nerf her skill set. Which Is pretty much limitless and she's not entirely raunchy/lewd as some believe her to be. Don't know if you've played it, but seriously, she could easily be made rated E. Also, for the imagination on display is Smash and the wild imagination that is shown in Bayonetta 1 and 2... They're a match made in heaven.

June 14th hype.

So both known DLC fighters will be out before E3. New character at the digital event maybe?

@MikeW this is actually cheaper than the cost of one character for other fighting games.

@Rexx - Have we got word of Mewtwo amiibo yet? Probs won't be able to since their's limited customization.

I just remembered... No custom moves... 4 Lucas...

@IceClimbers Better yet, both. ;P

@KO-Cub I don't think we're gonna see DLC Amiibo until the rest of the in-game fighters are done, which should only be 1 or 2 more waves.

What is that pose in the screenshot? I don't remember that from Brawl.

Interesting decision by Nintendo, releasing Lucas to try and divert attention away from Microsoft, Sony and the 3rd party conferences.

SOOOOOOOOO EXCITED. The EShop's going to crash from high traffic. You heard it from me first.

Almost time to spam that up Smash!!

Yes!!!! I don't have to wait as long!!!

@Grumblevolcano its interesting. Releasing an update with Lucas, the Miiverse stage, and the Splatoon costumes the day before the E3 presentation.

@Caryslan
Yeah, I agree that it would be nice if they could bundle the characters together. Lets say a "3 Fighter Bundle"... it could include two previous SSB fighters like Mewtwo and Lucas, and a new one. Another bundle might include Roy and Pichu, and a new one.
Or maybe one old fighter and two new ones. That could be worth the $8 price tag.

@Retro_on_theGo
Yeah, but still.... $4 for an old SSB fighter still seems pretty steep.

@hypercoyote
True, but I also think that quite a bit of tweaking and balancing has to be done with the 4 new race tracks that they offered in each DLC (and karts with the different stats) and I just can't accept the fact that one previous SSB fighter would cost the same as all of that!

Wow. I was expect them to give a date for him during E3. Now we're actually getting him beforehand! Does this mean we'll get a nee character announcement at E3? I hope so.

Also, do you guys know how many months and months of work go into making and balancing a character, even an old one? $4 is an excellent price tag.

@DarthNocturnal
I just can't shake off the feeling that Nintendo is playing off the SSB fanbase and treating these fighter DLCs as a cash grab...

@Tsurii897 Lucas is not a clone because his air attacks, tilts, and smashes are different from Ness'.

Yes! Another clone! Just what Smash Bros needed to freshen up the competitive scene before Evo!
@MikeW All DLC is a cash grab. The only reason a developer would release content after the release of a game is to make more money off the people who buy it so they have a complete game.
@thegreninja47 His attacks line up perfectly with Ness' attacks, the only difference is speed and power. By that standard, Dr. Mario, Toon Link, Lucina, Ganondorf, and Dark Pit aren't clones either.

@MikeW That is true. I was caught up just thinking about the racers because that was the original comment. I agree that if you take the tracks and carts/parts into account, it doesn't make sense. Apart from all that, I do agree that it seems overpriced to just get one fighter. Now, if they threw in some levels with him, that'd be different.

Hopefully Smash Tour will be added to the 3DS version, and Smash Run will be added to the Wii U version as DLC.

Cool

Yesssssssßssssssssssßßsssssssss.

Do DLC characters have custom moves, and do they need to be unlocked? Can't wait to play him again.

"Japanese giant" you got that from Sammy Barker

I already have ten euros on my eShop account. BRING IT ON!!!

Can't wait to play as him! LUCAS STRIKES BACK!

I never liked Lucas in Brawl.
I'll never play as him.
His return as DLC feels unnecessary to me.

That said, I'll gladly dump $4.99 to get this guy, as well as any other character Nintendo releases. I refuse to have an incomplete roster. I REFUSE.

@fed0ra7

Thing is, on the brighter side of things, Lucas in Smash has always been Ninty's excuse... erm, I mean, apology for not releasing Mother 3. However, we'd all settle with never seeing the guy outside of Smash if only they just stopped reminding us that Mother 3 never left Japan. Seriously: trophies in Brawl that spoil the entire game because the western world will never see it anyway? Check. The 2014 digital event with Robot Chicken-verse Reggie burning a fan to death because he asked for Mother 3? Check. Satoru Iwata's afterword for the Lucas DLC trailer gleefully mentioning Mother 3's Japanese embargo? Check! Man, talk about twisting the knife!

@MikeW Smash is a fighting game. Mario Kart racer. I character in a fighting game is much more complicated than a Mario Kart character. Either way, by your logic MK 8 is a rip off. Smash has more characters, costumes, songs, more stages (not counting the dlc for mk 8). Other fighting games charge way more for a character. Smash isn't ripping you off, Mario Kart 8 just has the more generous dlc so quit your complaining.

@BlueNitrous http://smashboards.com/threads/known-differences-between-lucas-and-ness.138781/

@BlueNitrous Oh god you can be any wronger than you was in your comment. For one, have you ever even played as Lucas before or know the meaning of clone? Lucas is very different for Ness from a competitive standpoint and casual standpoint. The only thing Lucas and Ness share (at least in smash anyway) is their specials and but to say that I'll be cherry picking because Lucas specials works differently. I suggest you to play as Lucas in Brawl, and Lucas is not even going to be allowed in Evo.

Your first reply to MikeW was just out right ignorant. Please tell me how the hell is DLC a cash grab if it completely optional? You don't have to buy it. Since when did you have to buy DLC? Also, have you ever consider Sakurai made the DLC so people can have they're favorite character back, to have more fun with the game? Remember Sakurai didn't even consider making DLC for SSB4 before everybody started asking about. He already said that it was hell to create new characters, and now he forcing himself to work. Would you really call Sakurai after all the crap he been through a flipping cash grabber?

I'm not even going to waste my breath on the last few things you said since Zombo already linked what I was going to link.

@BlueNitrous I've never read something so incorrect

@Grumblevolcano Not really considering those conferences are the next day except for Bethesda's. This along with the NWC finals is more of Nintendo getting the first word at E3.

P-K FREEEEEZE!

Definitely looking forward to playing as Lucas again.

@Zombo
Think about this:

• The retail price of SSB Wii U is $59.99. That includes 37 fighters, all the levels, stages, trophies, modes, event matches, etc.
• The Lucas DLC costs $4.99. That includes 1 fighter and nothing else.
• $4.99 out of $59.99 is 8.3%
• You are paying 8.3% of the full retail price for only ONE fighter!
• If you were to get all 37 fighters (forget about the rest of the actual game!) and divide each one by $59.99, each character would be worth $1.62
• Therefore, if you round up and for Nintendo to make an extra profit, a fair asking price for the Lucas DLC would be $1.99.
• Conclusion: Nintendo is overcharging an extra $3.00, which I think is unfair.

@AlexOlney

"Mother Fighter"? Seriously?

@CrazyMetroid If you compare SSB characters to content in MK8, then yes they are very expensive, not to mention the DLC costume pack. But if you compare the pricing to other games DLC packages it is about equal if not better. If Nintendo were to follow Capcom's Street Fighter IV they would release DLC alternate color costumes at a few dollars each, and then just release a whole new version of the rebalanced game at $60 several times over. We get the rebalancing for free and to play as the characters is optional at $5 each. Perhaps they should have just had a season pass including four characters and maybe a few stages at a discounted price. So on the one hand I see what you're saying and it is difficult to be charged more for content in SSB than MK. But on the other hand Nintendo is testing the water with it's DLC and I though the first few options for SSB content have been pricey, they are still optional and affordable compared to other developers content. The alternative would be no additional content.

@tobbonni I wouldn't completely rule it out once there are more fighters. They are already doing that with the Mii costumes, so it wouldn't be a stretch for them to do it with fighters.

@TeeJay
Offa course we're getting another fighter. Anything goes. Ryu, Popo, Roy, Isaac, take your pick.

@Chaoz I'm only replying to your comment since yours was the most long winded, but I'm talking to everyone who replied to me, mind you. I'll take the Lucas is different point- I've never been too keen on studying the "competitive scene" of a party/fighter/brawler game, especially when there are so many other fighting games to play out there. I will argue for my DLC point though. Nintendo is rapidly approaching the top of the mountain of awful DLC who- sorry, this site is G-rated. Let's just say that if these companies were people, they would be selling their bodies, ya feel? Now, Nintendo is certainly not as bad as say, Ubisoft or Capcom, not by a long shot, in fact. But they have been making strides in the wrong direction. Remember all that DLC in Fire Emblem Awakening? Or even Splatoon! "But that DLC is free!" you cry. No, the amiibos! With a large number of extra missions and costumes locked behind difficult to find pieces of plastic, Nintendo has certainly made a hefty profit from their near-useless figurines. Why has Nintendo done this? Not out of the goodness of their heart, I assure you. Nintendo has used their grip on your childhood memories to squeeze money from your wallet. What about other companies, though? They don't have my nostalgic feelings! This is my answer to the "optional" content claim: people want the whole game. I've seen people in this very comment section say that they don't especially like Lucas but will buy him any way to have that complete roster. And companies bank on this idea for that very reason, because they know they can make a quick buck with this very strategy. Of course, why am I complaining? All fighting games have ludicrous amounts of DLC why should SSB be any different? (I implore all of you to check DOA5's DLC listings. The cheapest DLC is over $50 FOR COSTUMES. Jesus Christ.)

@MikeW I guess that means every fighter has been worth less and less with every installment of Smash as the roster grew huh. I guess by your logic, the more content a game has (and Smash has a LOT) the less each individual piece of content is worth, despite how much work is put into each.

@BlueNitrous I was about to tear your comment apart but I see others have already.

@AlexSora89 I know, lol. I just mean are they going to announce one at E3 specifically.

@TeeJay
It kind of makes sense that "fighter" costs would go down over time, given the fact that the main framework for the game has already been created in the previous installments (and more than half the fighters in the Wii U version were already available in previous SSB games, including Lucas).

Rake in the money Nintendo.

@MikeW You do know every game is made entirely from scratch with every new installment, right? Even the returning fighters are remade from the ground up every single time. This isn't Mario Kart where you can just port a model, give it a few stunt animations and voices and call it a day.

Not to mention every fighter okays entirely differently each game, despite initial appearances. For instance, Yoshi sucked in Brawl. Now he's top tier.

The price point isn't right for me and I don't have a particular fondness of the Mother games, either. As always, just because it isn't for me, doesn't mean i'm not happy to see Nintendo trying new things and pleasing other fans. At $5 for both versions is still fairly high. I understand it takes a lot of work on their end but thats a lot to spend for an increasing of the roster by 2%. The MK8 tracks increased the content by 33% in comparison. I hope peeps enjoy Lucas! Here's the sad thing ....my amiibo addiction will probably force me to buy Lucas at $15 but I wont spend $5 for the actual character. I know....I know...you don't have to say it .....I already know LOL

MY MAIN IS BACK YASSSSS!

People complaining that Lucas cost $4 when they buy $13 amiibos that function as CPUs.....

@BlueNitrous Going by your logic, video games themselves are cash grabs. "How dare they charge money for a video game!"

@MikeW The four games have completely different physics engines. Veteran fighters will play differently based on that alone, and that's before taking into account tweaks made to hitboxes and whatnot. $5 for a character in a fighter is standard and completely fair for the amount of work that goes into them. Takes far more balancing work than a character or even a track in Mario Kart.

MOTHER 3 WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON E3 2015
MOTHER 3 FOR NORTH AMERICA!!!

@TeeJay you should stop replying to that Mike Guy "Oh no 4.99 is waaay to much for a character!!! mario kart 8 DLC is so much cheaper!!" they don't understand a thing.

I'm not a big fan of the Mother games, but I will buy him. And all the future characters.

we bought Mewtwo because my son is Pokémon mad but its hard to muster any enthusiasm for this. Never played Mother 3 and on the Wii Smash Bros he seemed too similar to Lucas. Now if they do Mother 3 for virtual console then my enthusiasm will carry me away to buy him but otherwise.....nah

This release date is odd. I'm curious if Mother 3 will be featured in the Nintendo World Championship. They're doing a speed run of The Legend of Zelda, so why not.

I like Lucas but I am not paying £3.59 to play as him, too expensive in my opinion.

@AlexSora89
coughKingKRoolcough

@fed0ra7
Dunno, man. Never felt like Ninty twisted the knife with him, Smash trophies aside.

4 Euro is pretty expensive for just one character (and a old one at that), on one system and without additional stages. And I am short on cash anyway, so this goes on the backburner.

People shout all the time that Nintendo does DLC right. Well, they did it right with Hyrule warriors and Mariokart 8. But (so far) not with Super smash. Overpriced old characters and Mii-outfits, come on!!

Let's do it. My son is dying. He keeps playing brawl asking about lucAs.

@AlexSora89
Actually, I was replying to your second comment.

@KO-Cub no? its the same price?

in case its not, its because Lucas was ported from brawl and smash 4'd, where as mewtwo, last time he was a fighter was melee...

@sketchturner Except there's no incomplete roster....
That was the complete roster from the start, the extra characters are DLC.

I can’t wait for this