The New Nintendo 3DS is now out in Japan, and it'll be intriguing to see just how much the models boost sales of the hardware in the country. It has various new features, such as a faster CPU, the c-stick and improved stereoscopic 3D viewing, though it's one of the less headline-grabbing inclusions that's recently been put to the test.
The New Nintendo 3DS web browser has a mandatory pay-wall that automatically blocks adult websites; it can only be disabled by paying a nominal fee of 30 Yen (about 28 cents in the US) with a credit card. It's a clever idea, as the required payment is exceptionally low yet, of course, a young child won't own a credit card to disable it — it's a useful tool for parents that need a little extra help protecting their kids from explicit content, and is an extra layer beyond the existing parental control options.
It seems it's not perfect, though, and Kotaku has figured out that the browser has the same weakness as in the previous systems, in spite of the additional layer of security. On the positive side it does automatically block adult and even dating websites, but it fails to deal with Google Images. While various terms were successfully filtered in terms of accessing websites, the same searches in Google Images returned inappropriate results; considering that a lot of children are as tech savvy as many adults nowadays, that could naturally be a problem.
It's not easy, of course, to successfully block everything, though it'll be interesting to see whether a future system update attempts to close and limit this loophole. Considering Nintendo's strong relationship with Google, with various projects between the companies in recent years, it's entirely possible that a solution can be found.
This new filter is a noble idea, even if it still needs to be tightened up.
[source kotaku.com]
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Who would want to look at pr0n on a small screen anyway?
@abbyhitter I am quite sure the allure is to have it work with the 3D
@abbyhitter please don't get everyone started
I'm not really seeing the point of that. "Inappropriate" content is everywhere, but many of those pages don't work with the 3DS browser due to sheer size or other requirements, anyway.
Besides, I don't like when Nintendo steps in to do a parent's job. There's an entire section of the system settings dedicated to child protection, so why not leave it to them? I know Nintendo wants to keep the usage clean, but don't make parents feel like they don't need to care about it.
Nintendo's strong relationship with google? Google+ 'integration' coming soon!
Nintendolife,
When you do the Wednesday sales charts in Japan, could you add a small note with the total 3ds sales?
Now they have four models, and if the 2ds joins them, that'll be one big chart.
Thanks.
Now if Nintendo could only implement this idea for the use of voice chat, so we don't have to hear annoying kids on the mic in online games.
Just hope this 'feature' doesn't block any normal sites.
@Kaze_Memaryu don't forget that Nintendo also wants to protect itself. Some patents well assume these things are safe for their kids when they buy them. And if lots of kids watch porn on the 3ds it'll be an annoyance to deal with the press and the bad image. This way they can say the parent was at fault, and they'll be right.
This must've been a fun feature to test.
Jiggle with the c-stick.
@King47 Well, in the US was a guy who sued redbull for not getting wings....and he won. So yeah, stuff like that is basically just to repell charges before they even happen.
And let me remind you how swapnote was used. If there is a way to misuse something, it will be misused.
And depending on the region, even the developer of the device itself can be found guilty, since he "enabled" the crime.
Law systems are on the fritz, Nintendos just doing damage controll.
And honestly, i never really used the 3DS browser for anything but ocasionally checking gamefaqs or something like that.
"Considering Nintendo's strong relationship with Google"
what? how are the two related?
@HappyHappyist with the WiiU's Google Maps thing to let you walk streets hundreds of miles away? Probably another couple ways too.
lol, seriously? The Normal 3DS can give you Porn, the Wii U can give you porn, ALL the Nintendo systems that had the internet browser could show you porn just by going to google. But honestly, I think Nintendo needs to stop playing parent here.
Let's face it: The internet is not a safe place to be on. No matter what you type in the search engine, there WILL be something inappropriate that you'll find. Even if it's something kid-friendly, you're gonna find something that's inappropriate.
@ikki5 Nintendo aren't playing parent, they're thinking about sales. Parents are still responsible for a lot of 3DS sales around the world and now that there are SO many models already sold... they need to find ways of attracting the last few sceptical parents out of the woodwork.
Just block the internet browser on the parental control.
now make it play youtube videos, and overall be faster, then it might be useful, the 3DS internet browser sucks right now
@Einherjar a guy sued redbull for not getting wings... and won? seriously!?
@xj0462 Yup, here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11155731/13m-lawsuit-proves-Red-Bull-doesnt-give-you-wings.html
@Einherjar well, i guess it makes sense, considering it flase advertising(i think)
@xj0462 Sure, but i wouldnt call it false advertising as long as common sense is still a thing.
But this isnt the first time. There was the trial about a person burning his/her lips on hot koffee because it was hot, but not labeled hot on the cup...
Oh well, sadly, there still i no cure for stupidity
Suddenly every adolescent boy wants a new 3ds instead of cod or halo
Well at least legally they can say they are not responsible for your child finding another way to view 18+ materials because the parent didn't set the parental control.
@Einherjar common sense isn't nearly as common as you might think.
there are 2 universal things:hydrogen, and stupidity
@xj0462 Nicely put
The only reason I used 3DS browser was for 3D porn.
A lot of people are making a big stink over $0.30. Kids need to save their lunch money so they don't blow it all on porn or other age-of-consent sites. You'd be surprised at the kinds of stuff kids could see and hear on YouTube or Newgrounds and stuff like that.
The last time I saw my three year old nephew he straight up told me, "Fu** you" while I was setting up the PS3 I was giving to him and when I mentioned it to his mom she said he watches loads of stuff with his aunt on YouTube unsupervised. Yeah, I know, poor parenting on her part, but it'd be easier on parents and corporations just to do trivial things like implementing paywalls to keep kids from freely accessing inappropriate content as they have yet to be able to discern what is socially acceptable or not.
I mean seriously, what grown person can't afford $0.30? If the restriction was $20 then yeah, I'd be upset about it too, but it's thirty freaking cents.
@Einherjar thanks
I hope this does not apply when the system makes it to the West. I know the idea is that only adults have credit cards, but Nintendo does not take credit cards from a lot of countries, so those people would never have a way to remove that restriction in their systems.
I hate it when Nintendo plays parent like this. Just let the parents deal with it.
@sinalefa -If I lived in a country where Nintendo didnt let me use my credit card online, not being able to view porn on my 3DS would be way down the list of problems I had with them. And the way I read this is the 30 cents is only to access adult websites, not the rest of the internet which is still available. Thats the way I read it anyway.
You know, Ild actually be ok if Nintendo wanted to block porn completly as long as they advertise it as a "child friendly web browsing experience*". Followed by *Nintendos web browser blocks secually explicit and other sdult oriented websites. If people dont want to buy it thats their choice. I think its nice of Nintendo to advertise people can get porn if they want it.
No money no honey
No one should have a problem with this. If you're an adult and you want to look at adult sites then you already have access, but if you insist on doing it with the 3DS then you can do so with your credit card, proving you are of age.
If you are a minor, it doesn't matter if you can already do it on other devices. The point is that you won't be doing it on THIS device. That's all Nintendo cares about. They don't care about what you do on your phone or your iPad or your computer.
We live in a world and a culture where everybody is conditioned to doing whatever the heck they feel like doing when they feel like doing it, then people get mad when a company doesn't give a 12-year-old kid absolute reign to look at porn.
Ya, it is the parents job. But that doesn't mean that companies providing a product do not have a moral responsibility. It would be one thing if they cut out the feature completely and said no Internet browser. But that's not what they're doing. They're simply saying, "prove your age". And I agree with that. It's just strange to see because we're used to every company being immoral, selfish and greedy. It's different with the Wii U because most owners are adults, but we all know the vast majority of 3DS owners are kids, tens of millions of them, and it's nice to see a company actually take responsibility to protect the kids.
What I really want to know is whether or not the New 3DS internet browser will support tabs like the Wii U version. It makes it a lot more convienient to search the web!
@JaxonH agree totally.
@Einherjar If the end result is advertising has to be truthful then that would be a good thing.
@JaxonH My friend, thank you.
@rjejr
I don't think it is that big of an issue either, but the restriction will always be there. Thankfully I can buy games by using points cards, though.
@JaxonH Problem is nobody has managed to do this sort of filtering correctly in the history of ever which is why it should always be opt in not opt out. (Even though I would never use the 3DS browser anyway it doesn't change that).
I mean, just disable the browser in Parental Controls. . .
@BensonUii "Just block the internet browser on the parental control."
Yes.
Children shouldn't have access to the internet, period.
@JimLad
Yeah because if you don't want your kids browsing porn in their 3DS unsupervised, then block it. Now if you trust your kids and are willing to take the risk of them being exposed (since there is a loop hole) then allow them to use the browser. Simple as that.
Ridiculous how overprotective parents are these days.
During World War Two in England there was just caches of weapons / ammunition all over the country but kids didn't mess with them.
The modern school looks more like a category A prison or concentration camp.
Its stupid (Just means when it comes to University there is going to be even more kid's going totally off the rails).
The parental filter shouldn't need a credit card to be disabled in the 1st place. If Nintendo wants to prove they are in no way seeking to profit off of this, they should return to money spent on unlocking the New 3DS in eShop money.
The last thing I won't miss is porn. Block all the internet garbage.
When I was a kid all we had were magazines.
@DarkKirby
They could donate the money to a charity, but instead it will go towards buying new kimonos at the Iwata household
@letsplay
The Internet is so much easier though. As a grown man I don't have the time to search for forts in the woods or look in construction site portable toilets for porno magazines
I'm excited for the New 3DS (even though I won't get it if I don't have to) and this feature is cool, I suppose.
I'm not going to pretend I'm above this kind of stuff. My 3DS isn't the ideal choice for mature viewing. It's slow and a lot of sites don't work because of the 3DS Browser's capabilities. Sure, the new browser in the New 3DS will change that, but I doubt people that have a fiery passion for adult sites will abandon their computers or even smartphones to use the 3DS.
As far as the small fee to look at adult sites, I don't blame Nintendo. Even if younger people aren't trying to find mature sites, it's not hard to stumble upon. Just enter some words in the wrong order in a Google Search and...innocence is shattered.
Is it somehow possible to do a Google image search and have it NOT come up with a whole bunch of inappropriate images???
So no big 3D bouncing boobs? T.T
...Oh wait I have Senran Kagura Burst...never mind.
Still don't see why you'd need to use a credit card to remove the filter imo.
Oh please. It's not like Nintendo is going to stop any kid from looking at tits. They're just going to use another device with a web browser. Or just ask for their parents' credit card and say that they're just buying a game. Does anyone even use the 3DS browser anyway?
@xj0462 The free YT app gives you YouTube, but I agree that browsers on handhelds should, by default, have the ability to do it. I guess it all comes down to Flash compatibility. You'd think nowadays it would be a standard feature of all browsers.
@ryanator008 Agreed. If they're determined to view pr0n, they're going to find a way to look at pr0n. I used the browser once or twice as a novelty. Although I have used the YT app quite a bit. I do use the Vita's browser often though. It's got a number of advantages over the 3DS', but of ourse it lacks Flash.
I'm on the 3DS Browser right now, actually. The problem is, what if it blocks SFW sites like DeviantART on accident? Tumblr, to- wait. I'll let Nintendo figure out which blogs are good or bad. Not my problem, right? The point is, all filtration systems have faults, as demonstrated here. What if said faults block SFW sites, thinking they're NSFW?
Couldn't a porn website or something try to sue Nintendo on a claim that the 30 cents belongs to the website since they offer the content? Or would a case similar to that even become possible?
@Scary_Old_Lady Well, I wish. It sucks that the image share tool doesn't have Google+ native support. Especially weird since Nintendo themselves use actively Google+.
forget pr0n what about blocking stupid music vids like stupid beibs or im sure ppl could still look up "anaconda" music vid.....
@Einherjar Actually the good news about that case isThat the woman got counter-sued by McDonald's and lost ever cent.
@MC808 why haven't they put flash on the 3DS browser yet
@xj0462
Flash is actually a rather demanding top-level graphics language.
Running it arbitrarily inside an already fully fledged browser on an ARM11 is probably not going to happen any time soon.
Great work, Ninty. Can't underestimate the potentially dangerous consequences of exposing someone so young to stuff they shouldn't see.
@AK-1138
Or exposing them to the giant turd known as "Pet Sounds"
@Squid I really hope this doesn't happen. :/ It would be dumb and annoying.
@MikeLove I was thinking more along the lines of Summer in Paradise, actually... oops, there I go again, rockin' the man in the boat!
@AK-1138
I dare you to come down to Kokomo and say that to my face!
@xj0462 I'd say Pod hit the nail on the head. You'd think by now though they'd find a way to implement it.
@MC808 exactly
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