The resident Pokémon masters over at Serebii.net have shared the newest information on Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire from Japanese magazine CoroCoro and, as expected, new evolutions lead the lineup.
Mega Swampert, Mega Sceptile, and Mega Diancie have all made their appearances, one looking much more formal than the others. According to Serebii, Mega Sceptile gets Dragon added to its original Grass type, while the other two Mega Evolutions keep their standard type configurations.
Cover Pokémon Groudon and Kyogre appear to be taking a different direction than Mega Evolutions, quite literally. The two are said to go into "Ancient Devolution" to become Prehistoric/Primal/Primeval Groudon and Prehistoric/Primal/Primeval Kyogre. For a rundown of currently known information on the newly evolved and devolved Pokémon, you can visit Serebii.net's pages for the Mega Evolutions and Prehistorics.
CoroCoro also notes that Teams Magma and Aqua will make their returns to the game with the same leaders, although they will be redesigned. The Mach and Acro Bike will also be present in the games, and the item that will activate Mega Evolutions may be known as the "Mega Bangle." Try saying that three times fast.
Are you a fan of any of the new Mega Evolutions? We won't say which one we particularly like, but feel free to discuss your favourites below.
[source serebii.net]
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"We won't say which one we particularly liek..."
This is why I love this site. I see what you did there.
I was going to say you missed one...but then I read @Shepdawg1 's comment and that last line again.
Wait! We now have Primal Pokémon in the main games? GF please make this somehow possible to get...
Loving the new Mega Evolutions. Also, the new character artwork for Brendan/May has been revealed too. Brendan has his hat again. Yes, the artwork puts the debate to rest and confirms that the white stuff on his head is indeed a hat.
I'm not too sure about the new designs for Brendan and May. Maybe it's nostalgia screaming at me, but I prefer the old designs... for now. I'm very much looking forward to Mega Sceptile, though, as I'll probably be choosing Treecko. Not sure how Grass/Dragon will work, though!
@GloverMist Just don't Mega Evolve when facing Glacia, and carry a Steel or Fire type.
@IceClimbers Believe me, I carry a lot of Fire types! Or, as many good ones that show up in that generation!
The new character designs look kind of derpy, but I am loving the new Mega Evolutions. Grass/Dragon Mega Sceptile has just convinced me to start with Treecko.
Whoa, Mega Sceptile is Dragon? That's awesome. I always loved Sceptile and now he gets to be a dragon and a Mega Evolution. Can't get any better than that.
Mega Swampert looks a bit odd to me, but kind of cool.
Suppose the new outfits are supposed to fit the tropical theme better? They look like they can double up as instant swim gear, ha. They look better in game it seems.
I like how more distinguished Aqua and Magma look though, Aqua looking more like Pirates and all.
The duel bike thing is kind of disappointing.
I saw this earlier today, it looks exciting! I love that the teams are still separated by which game you get too.
Looks cool but the male and female designs are garbage to me.
OH MY GOSH! Mega Swampert looks like a beast!
I love it~
I'm loving the designs of the new Mega evolutions. Swampert especially.
Love Archie's new look. The Magma grunts don't look like they've changed much at all, which I'm perfectly okay with.
Maybe this'll convince some people to choose Treeko! He's always been my fav. Can't wait! New character designs don't look like anything special. Dragon and Grass are my two favorite types so I'm pumped!! Mega Swampert looks kinda.... Heavyset. Really excited about Primal Pokemon, also Mega Bangle makes more sense then Mega Ring.
@BLPs It's just you.
Considering Mega Swampert's bulky appearance, Swift Swim was the last thing I expected for it. Oh well, I guess Sap Sipper was too much to ask for.
As much as I'm not to keen on the Swampert mega evolution it will stil be my pick as it's my second favorite starter of all time.
Wait, no new main characters? What's the point, then? They do look older, but it's not about issues I have with Brendan/May, it's more that this is not being changed. Get as far away from R/S/E as possible!
And no, I don't hate the Gen III games, I simply don't want to see GameFreak succumb to blind demands and just port them. They gotta change everything except the general map layout.
@BLPs Leaving it as it is would eliminate any reasons to bring these in the first place. GameFreak evidently doesn't think highly of straight ports, and I'm glad about that. But this isn't enough to give OR/AS a really "new" look or feel yet.
Besides, somebody (like me) would just complain about the lack of change (just as I do now).
@Kaze_Memaryu They're remakes. More people would be upset if Brendan and May weren't the playable characters. It's supposed to be like RSE. HGSS were like GSC, and FRLG were like RGBY.
These look pretty cool! I hope we get some more X/Y pokemon mega evolutions though. The starters and Goodra are some that I'd love to get mega evolutions.
@smashbread Sap Sipper would have been broken beyond belief.
@BLPs Did you really expect Mega Evolutions to not be included in the remake? It was obvious from day one that they would be in the game. X/Y were great. Sure, the post-game is a bit lacking and the game is too easy because of EXP Share, but it was still fun. Even with EXP Share on, the game is still about 40 hours long.
Sceptile is now ready for SSB4!
Mega Sceptile and Swampert look really cool. Swampert in particular makes me like him a bit more (Mudkip line is my least favourite of the three)
@mystman12 But then Goodra can't use Assault Vest D:. Though, with Mega Diancie, the only region not to have Pokemon with Mega Evolutions is Unova. Mega Hydreigon please!
Aw hell yeah, Mega Sceptile. I can't wait until this comes out in November.
@BLPs Of course GameFreak was going to expand on the Mega Evolution feature. Also, the characters going back to normal and having no consideration of the plot happens in all of the games barring Gen 5. Yes, Gen 5 Pokemon will get Mega Evolutions eventually. Either in this game or in a later one.
It's too soon for actual new Pokemon. Wait until Gen 7 for that. As far as the graphics go in X/Y, give GameFreak a break. It was the first game on the system and the first time using all 3D models. Of course it wasn't going to look spectacular. Compare Diamond/Pearl to Black 2/White 2. Major difference. ORAS seem to have better graphics than XY did anyway.
@BLPs lol that's a bad thing? Ruby and Sapphire were pretty horrid, so the more chances the better.
Except for Brendan and May's new designs. Those ARE pretty odd.
Mega Swampert! <3
Team Aqua's looking pretty awesome too.
Ugh who to choose who to choose.
SPECULATION TIME
=> Sceptile as a SSB newcomer for E3
CALLING IT NOW
For me, I like the new character designs, moreover, if there are still options to dress up the characters, then better.
Still waiting for Pokemon Contests.
Mega Diance!!, Wow!, ok, also, I will be waiting for Mega Meloetta, XD
Brendan and May are the protagonists again?? Good fight Game Freak for ruining the pokemon game timeline!
@AlexSora89 You're a little late on that, that has been called at least a couple dozen times from what I've previously read on this site lol.
@Porky
Aren't you making a mountain out of a molehill? We know this much about the game just yet. Relax! ^_^
@Porky
Sorry for replying after your own reply... still, I had no clue about other speculations.
@alexsora89 how did we all not see this? Also Goku confirmed because my dad's friend's neighbor works at nintendo!
@2Sang
I "undastand" you're snarking at me, pal.
i wana know more about this whole devolve thing o.o
@AlexSora89 No, I can't, just no. It's kind of big when the games reveal years go by.. Firered/Leafgreen and R/S/E take place first at the same time, Hg/Ss and D/P/PT take place a few years after same time, then more than a few in Black/White when the HG/SS Team Rocket grunt you recover a part from stolen from the Power Plant has moved to Unova and had a little boy, then a couple more years from B/W to B2/W2, then supposedly another few years has passed from B2/W2 to X/Y. Assuming that X/Y will be able to trade to OR and AS, they are in the same time so.. AS and OR takes place in FireRed and Leafgreen now?? >. <
@IceClimbers Yeah, and it was a bad idea, but necsessary due to heavy changes to the main mechanics and the broken nature of the Gen I games. Also, HG/SS really wasn't needed at all.
Besides, these are NOT remakes, it was already said that they're more like sequels.
@BLPs I guess I can agree, but the Mega Evolutions were pretty much a necessity due to the increasingly overwhelming number of Pokés and the fact that we have an entirely new generation of gamers to introduce to the series. Without these callbacks, interest in older (and often less advantageous) would remain low. Also, it's a very interesting strategic layer for battles.
But I can see why there are people who don't like Mega Evolutions. They grew on me because I really like some of the designs, but both the designs and the general idea aren't the most appealing thing for some.
@Porky Why does it ruin the timeline?
@Interneto To summarize my previous long comment, almost every new adventure a few years go by, leading up to X/Y. It has to be more than 10 year difference in game logic of X/Y and R/S/E since it took place the same time as FR/LG which started first. But, we are having the same protagonists so that's where it doesn't make sense.. Oh well right, the anime timeline is just as bad.. if not more.
@Porky
You should apply a lot of "MST3K Mantra" when dealing with Pokémon, without thinking about canonicity too hard. If you value your sanity, that is.
The last time someone didn't accept the fact that Generation I Red and Generation III Red are, indeed, one and the same, we got the creepypasta rom hack known as "Pokémon False Red".
To me, the one and only screwup on Game Freak's part was how Generation III essentially rebooted the franchise, but thankfully later games set things straight (culminating in HeartGold and SoulSilver in 2010).
@BLPs Thanks for being more clear on the timeline my point exactly /:.
I will be choosing treecko again!!
@Kaze_Memaryu These ARE remakes, Iwata himself said they were. HG/SS were necessary btw because you couldn't transfer G/S to R/S/E making it incredibly hard and for some pokemon even impossible to obtain to complete the pokedex. This is the first time the remake wasn't really necessary.
ok something i'm not clear on is this whole preshistoric primal primeval thing. are these just interchangeable names all being used because the person who translated the scans could'nt figure out which one was right? if not then does that meen that devolution is going to be in three stages like a regular evolution? does this meen that devolved pokemon won't go back to normal like pokemon that mega. barring that chance, then does this meen that they can only enter a certain stage of these devolutions and will never be able to change the stage at which they can be. then if thats the case what devolution stage will they end up at when devolving and how does each one effect a devolved pokemon. what would determine what stage one pokemon will be at in a devolution? lets also say that wont happen either, then what about this. could devolution be something that occurs based on a pokemons condition in battle, and depending if that condition is worsening/bettering will it cause them to progress through the stages of devolving or will it even possibly cause them the start evolving until they reach their normal undevolved stage again
@Retro_on_theGo To quote the very first announcement when these two were revealed:
Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire are a fresh take on Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire, which launched in 2003 and were fan-favourite hits on the Game Boy Advance system. The new titles promise to take players through a dramatic story within a spectacular new world.
That doesn't mention the word 'remake' in the slightest, instead referring to it as a 'newqorld' and a 'fresh take'.
About exclusive Pokés: they could've easily implemented those in additional areas of the other games. Missing out on specific Pokés in general isn't much of a reason to remake the games they debuted in. Other Pokés have appeared in multiple Gens, and every single one of them all could be added to X/Y via DLC.
The only reason a Pokémon game about a previously covered region should be remade is because it has an entirely new plot and numerous changes to the characters and new or altered areas that are not simply retooled from the originals.
Mega sceptile takes it all.
Shame Ice shard will OHKO it tho
mega sceptile looks awsome!!
mega blaziken looks identical to the one in x and y
mega swampert and the other one look ok
what does ''primeval groudon and kyogre look like?
wil these new forms work in x and y?
wiil the usused mega latias and latios from x and y be in here too?
will you be able to customize your characters appearance like in x and y versions?
so many questions, so few answers...
@Kaze_Memaryu In the recent investors briefing, Iwata confirmed that they are full remakes of Ruby & Sapphire. They're remakes. Same plot as before. Same game as before, like HGSS and FRLG.
Gotta say that I'm digging these new Mega Evolutions. As for the whole Ancient Devolution, sounds like a fancier way of saying Mega Evolution with maybe a different looking animation to activate the transformation.
I'm hoping that they will patch X and Y once Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire releases so the games can atleast view the new forms and looks of the trainers since they weren't able to in the past games(Example: Diamond and Pearl couldn't see the new looks of Platinum's trainers or Giratina's Origin Forme).
Swampert SMASH! That's seriously all I can think of looking at it.
@xj0462 At the article source ( http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml ), there's more images, including primeval groudon and kyogre.
@AlexSora89 lol but honestly Sceptile makes just as much sense as Greninja does since they're both equally relevant. Although I guess the argument for sceptile over greninja could be made as well. I'm still upset that Greninja is a character over Mewtwo, Victini, Meowth, and Squirtle.
I'm liking all of the new Mega Evolutions. Primeval Groudon/Kyogre? Things like this are definitely doing their job: making me want the game more.
I'll be using the Mega Evolution that was available for a limited time when X/Y was released.
I dont get Primal at all. It doesn't make sense to me. Sounds like devolution, so we are making are pokemon weaker?
Was away from my computer all day, but I just needed to give a shout out to my man Mega Swampert.
I like May's redesign but I really miss the greens she had on her old design, they complemented her red dress/shirt so well :T Swamperts mega evolution looks...silly. Sigh.
I'd hoped Mega Sceptile would be part Dragon! Does anyone know what ability it gets?
@Kaze_Memaryu lol dude that's marketing talk! That literally means nothing. They said a similar thing about HG/SS and look how that turned out.
Iwata stated in his investor briefing that these were just remakes.
@Shire Lightning Rod.
@Retro_on_theGo Then this is a low point for GameFreak (listening to beggars is just sad, period) and a waste of resources.
Disappointing how this is being made instead of taking the chance to improve X/Y with some additional areas...
WE FINALLY HAVE OUR GRASS DRAGON! No more feeling incredibly disappointed by Serperior.
this news is great news Sceptile looks great as a mega pokemon, I( already got the starters in my pokemon bank, i guess ill get em again lol
Good lord! Mega Swampert is fugly!!!
Ha! I knew they would do this and I'm glad they did. I'll definitely be going for Sceptile again, as usual.
Sceptile was always the best in the Hoenn starter trio.
@Kaze_Memaryu
what do you meen when you say beggars?
@Kaze_Memaryu
So you find remakes of games fans have been asking for are a "waste of resources" but you wan them to "improve" X&Y with new areas, which would basically mean a 3rd version (i.e. Pokemon Z)? Comparing the two options, how are these games a "low point"?
Also, on the subject of HG/SS, the only other way to play those games were with the original games from 11yrs ago, two hardware generations back, that also had known issues with draining internal batteries. Thats reason enough since it allows younger/newer fans to play those games much easier, and old fans tired of dying saves.
@Zombie_Barioth When it comes to game demand, it's justified. When it comes to remake demands, it's a waste, yes. Unless a company decides on their own to remake older games, this shouldn't even be questioned. But this was just nostalgia rant from start to finish.
By direct comparison, there's not a single technical aspect in R/S/E other editions don't have.
Perfecting a game that is still a big topic for a company is always a good idea, but I wasn't pointing towards a third edition when I was talking about additional areas for X/Y. I was referring to the obvious choice: DLC. Previously, the third editions acted as the DLC expansion versions of their respective generation. Now, this new content can be seamlessly implemented into the existing games.
Instead they release remakes of almost perfect games merely one year after Gen VI was even introduced, though the other remakes also didn't take long to show up. It's a pointless decision, since the only possible improvement would be to add the Fairy type, but the games would hardly change by that. Everything that is a mainstay now has been introduced by Gen III, so now, they totally crossed the logic line.
@randomlypikachu Already forgot about all the stupid "Hoenn confirmed" discussions (which were so ridiculous and obscure that it became a meme)? Those didn't start as a joke, people were dead serious about this demand.
And now that Hoenn is actually confirmed, they don't even wait for the games to release! Instead they proceed to demand Gen IV remakes as if it was an obligation!
All these beggars just wanted stuff to have stuff. And in this particular case, R/S/E were often implied as the most popular of all Pokémon games, so they wanted their nostalgia satisfaction! There's no logical need for these remakes, just the blind demand. But I expect many people to be disappointed terribly once OR/AS actually release because it's more modernized than they wanted. And then it'll be clear that they would've preferred VC releases.
Lol Mega Diancie got announced and we still havent gotten her normal form ourselves. Seriously I hate GameFreaks Mystery Gift schedule...it isn't what it used to be.
Anyway, I'm in love with Mega Swampert's design. (and Mega Diancie of course, she looks rad!)
How long until we get Mega Raichu?
now something like Mawile will never actually receive a full evolution.
I agree. Mega evolutions should only be given to Pokemon who have three stages of evolution or are legendaries. Mawile could be given a baby version in a later game. I have an idea though where the Mega evolved form becomes the Pokemon's regular evolved form with a new name, losing all enhancements that comes from a Mega evolved form. They could also get a new Mega evolution too.
Can't decide between Swampert and Sceptile now O_O
@Kaze_Memaryu
We don't know if thats the only reason they decided to remake them. Yea, sales had some role, but they were also next in line cronologically for a remake, and so far they seem to be putting some effort into them. Gamefreak doesn't do straight-up bare-bones remakes like other companies, and so far they seem to be retelling gen III.
DLC is an obvious choice, but didn't they say they wanted to kerp that sorta thing out of the equation? Optional area like a battle tower would be fine, but wouldn't need very many people to create either. They could do both if they wanted.
@Zombie_Barioth I guess so. But I think GameFreak only excludes paid DLC. Oh well, now we have these in the making, and my dislike for it won't stop them from finishing it...
I've got skeptile and blaziken, so the only logical one to go with, is Swampert. But WOW - Swapert looks awsome. Can't wait to play!
Oh Pokemon, how much further will you fall?
I have to keep reminding myself that there will always be trash comments when new information comes out.
Anyway I'm loving everything so far. I love the new designs for the teams although I'm not quite sure why they did what they did to Tabitha. Team Aqua looking like seafaring brigands is awesome. I think I'm gonna pick Mudkip, M-Swampert is cool and water/ground is a good defensive typing.
I love Mega Sceptile and Diancie especially. Also love the idea of ancient devolution.. it fits so well. What is with some of these negative comments about the direction of the Pokemon series? If you ask me, Game Freak/Nintendo have done an amazing job at keeping the series relevant, alive, and balanced; mega evolutions are a step forward.
EDIT: Mega Castform. Please make it happen Game Freak.
I guess that they'll improve frame rate and everything will be in 3D
@BLPs lmao first of all, it's not going to be in Hoenn. They explained that already. And it's a new form, just like the other mega pokemon. Mega Charizard isn't number 986 or anything.
The truth is, they can do whatever they want to the game and no matter how hard you bash it or dislike it, you're still going to be in like when it comes out.
@myoco9 It is Hoenn.
Yeah in the original games. They stated in pokemon x/y and other places that's in a whole different area. Even in the commercial. It has the Hoenn pokemon, but it isn't that same district.
@Porky
Nope. I reuse to believe that's not a mistranslation and will remain adamant of that belief in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
Lightning Rod would be a completely terrible and nonsensical ability for Mega Sceptile and I'm sure it gets something much cooler, like, I don't know, Ice Rod or Super Speed Boost.
Mega Swampert will of course get Sap Sipper, and Mega Blaziken's ability will be changed to Defeatist or something like that.
@BLPs I'm not 100% sure what is going to happen with the storyline, but all I know is that it's a whole new area. But I guess we'll see when it comes out
@Kaze_Memaryu ok i can understand why your upset. i just gota say though i think its a little unfair of you to lump fans who actually wanted these and are happy to finally see that these are coming with "beggars" who want stuff just to have stuff. i think its also pretty unfair to say gamefreak is at a low point for doing what a lot of fans have been asking for.
@myoco9 It is NOT a whole new area. It's Hoenn.
I LOVE YOU MEGA SWAMPERT DDD
Nooooo! Dragon Grass typing totally just ruined Sceptile to Ice and Fairy. >__>
Mega Diance looks cool, but uh, what? Why does it need that if it isn't out yet.
@ToastyYogurt
Er... that's fake, right? Tell me that's fake.
@Shire Nope, check serebii. I was also really surprised I mean it's beautiful! /joking
MEGA SWAMPERT IS THE BEST POKEMON EVER CREATED!!!!! Also, this would be so much cooler if I could actually get Diancie...
Mega Spinda confirmed.
The fact that Diancie gets a Mega Evolution before a 5th gen Pokemon can baffles me. Seriously we could have had Mega Hydregion or Mega Scraggy. Mega Mienshao with dual typing would kick ass as well.
Who else herd "Full Remake?"
Lied to from Nintendo. Not sure if I should be happy or ungrateful. :/
@randomlypikachu Sure it's not fair. I didn't really want to be fair, I wanted to rant. Though I guess I should've outlined that sooner... oh well.
Mega Swampert answers "Do you even lift?" in the definitive affirmative. I wish it got Iron Fist instead of Swift Swim.
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