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Nintendo Brand Manager Hopes Mario Kart 8 Will Serve as a "Catalyst" for Wii U

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

"Mario Kart is one of our killer titles"

Though no game ever achieves loving praise from 100% of those that play it, Mario Kart 8 has been the recipient of plenty of compliments in reviews to date. What truly matters for Nintendo, however, is that buzz about the release will not only make it a must-buy for Wii U owners, but also entice other gamers to pick up the system.

Nintendo UK's 'Mario brand manager', Roger Langford, has spoken to MCV about the upcoming title; with the UK previously referenced by Satoru Iwata as a market where improvement is needed, there's no doubt even greater pressure than normal on the kart racer. To start with the sales pitch, Langford made the fair assessment that the racing series is one of Nintendo's strongest brands, often providing some of the best experiences on each respective system.

Mario Kart is one of our killer titles. Looking back at Super Mario Kart and then moving through the ages, you can see how integral Mario Kart is to Nintendo hardware. It always brings out the best in whatever hardware it is on.

Super Mario Kart was one of the first two-player racing games out at the time. The N64 version was one of the first to allow four-player split-screen play. Then the DS version encouraged wireless download play, and Wii had its online functionality.

The Wii U entry is the first in HD, of course, while also including strong online options and video sharing options that represent another first for the company. While some major previous entries have failed to propel Wii U hardware sales in the way the company would hope, the Nintendo UK man is currently making positive, confident comments regarding MK8's prospects.

There are lots of tweaks in the game that on the face of it might not sound like much. But we are looking to seed these bits out to the core Mario Kart fans via our online and social media campaign, and get that word-of-mouth and buzz up to launch. So that when we get to release day, we have the big TV campaign to make the big splash, but also the fans are raring to go.

...I certainly feel that Mario Kart 8 can be the catalyst that will broaden Wii U’s horizons. It’s very important for us that we have a successful launch and continue the promotion throughout the year and beyond.

...That offer [a free retail download with each Mario Kart 8 purchase] lends itself perfectly to those people looking to buy into Wii U.

You pick up the Mario Kart 8 bundle, and you can also download Wii Party U or Nintendo Land if you’re getting it for the family, or if you’re a Mario fan you can get New Super Mario Bros U. We also cater for more core gamers, as well, with Monster Hunter 3 and The Wonderful 101. We are offering that variety because Mario Kart 8 does attract such a broad demographic.

Those of us keen to see the Wii U boost sales and secure a stable place in the current home console scene are undoubtedly hoping that Mario Kart 8 will catch on with a mainstream audience. Are you confident that the appeal of Mario Kart 8 — along with the buzz, bundle and free game promotion — will provide the first spark of a Wii U revival?

[via mcvuk.com]

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Discipledoctor

#1

Discipledoctor said:

The first day it comes out , I expect the number of sold Wii U's to rise dramatically. It'll probably keep rising for a bit and then slow down, but still go faster than it is now. We'll see!

gatorboi352

#2

gatorboi352 said:

Well, we will know soon enough how big of an impact MK8 will have. I suspect it will be bigger than what many of the doubters are saying.

I really hope they patch in more robust voice chat options. They REALLY need to ditch their "child safety first" stranglehold to their online approach. It's unnecessarily over the top. Considering your typical Wii U owner is also a core gamer it only goes to say even more.

2Sang

#3

2Sang said:

This is the last game in the foreseeable future that is a surefire system seller for wii u. If this flops, they won't break 20 million ever.

XCWarrior

#4

XCWarrior said:

I'm starting to feel good again that Mario Kart 8 WiiU bundle will move some units - in North America. Though I still haven't seen a single commercial for it, so I dunno.

As for the UK, I expected WiiU hardware sales to get back into the double digits the week MK8 release (MAYBE they'll sell 100 units that week if they are lucky), but for the most part, UK seems to be a nearly dead territory for Nintendo.

Nintenjoe64

#5

Nintenjoe64 said:

If they advertise heavily during the World Cup, then it will sell loads. If they continue with their one-a-day kids tv ad campaign, everyone will just buy watchdogs and the MK8 Wii U revival will be short lived.

MoonKnight7

#6

MoonKnight7 said:

Super Smash Bros is still pretty far away, so they need to push this hard throughout the coming months to keep the momentum.

AJere

#8

AJere said:

I was talking with a friend the other day who owns a PS4. I asked him what was his problem with the WiiU and he said "It doesn't have Mario Kart or Smash Bros"

Yorumi

#9

Yorumi said:

What it's really going to do is show how things will progress in the future. MK isn't a guaranteed system selling, MK64 and MKDD didn't push tons of systems there. On the other hand 7 did. For MKWii it's hard to say, an interesting question was asked about MKWii, "did MKWii sell because everyone wanted MK or because everyone already had a wii."

They need it to push systems and I really hope it does, but it's not guaranteed to. It's going to be interesting to see what happens for sure.

uncha1n3d

#10

uncha1n3d said:

I doubt Mario Kart will increase console sales if 3D world didnt already, but E3 might change peoples minds. Just sucks they arent having a press conference again this year.

Nntndo_1986

#11

Nntndo_1986 said:

Just played the demo at a gamestop by my house, the first I went to had broken game pad ugh... Man each of the 8 tracks were magnific :D and too think I have 24 more to play. I'm way hyped for it.
Now for complaints....
1. Okay i was okay with no voice during in game, I mean I think it would be fun, and who wouldn't put a mute with voice so just why by add it. But again fine. Now I heard at the beginning the lobby would have it so that would be just fine. Meet up talk trash, strategies (like I do with battlefield squad mates that I don't know) then I find out last week it's only for friends. And on top of that no way to communicate with them before hand to play Online. Seriously wtf!!!! Man as much as I love Nintendo games, there whole infrastructure is just mind boggling to me.

See that's the only problem. I am 37 with two kids and while local is going to play amazingly, when they go to bed and my adult a$$ stays up I wouldn't mind talking with others. I remember wii kart and how I would play online and be like damn wish I could tell this or that guy great game and driving. Meet new people and add to friends list. Man how am hard is it for a company to realize it is a parents job to monitor their kids and not worry about backlash from dead beat parents finding out their kids had some f'ed up communication online. Not every parent is like me (enjoys gaming with my family) but it doesn't mean they just put a game in and walk away.
I let me kids play battlefield,ps4, or ghost, wii u and I tend to listen to other chatters, I've taught my kids to learn to mute certain people(annoyingly disrespectful, ignorant ones) and keeps the people that play as team, help out talking about load outs and such. They are out there and communication is key.
Oh Nintendo, why oh why

AVahne

#12

AVahne said:

MK8 doesn't need to sell millions on launch; it just needs to sell over 5 million worldwide by the end of the holiday season. And it needs to sell well beyond that as well. Or else Wii U is doomed. And Nintendo needs to refocus their efforts on making a really powerful handheld for the next gen in order to perform dual duties as a portable and as a home console.

Action51

#13

Action51 said:

I don't think it's going to move systems or "save" the Wii U.

I think everyone just got done buying their "next gen" PS4 or XB1, and there is a level of disappointment and let-down after all the hype...and it won't translate into sales for Nintendo, but a slump for the industry going into the summer and waiting for E3.

It will sell pretty well and make it's money back, but I doubt it's going to change the game. I think Nintendo could make five more amazing titles of Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8 quality and people just won't buy the system...sadly.

PJR0cks

#14

PJR0cks said:

@Nntndo_1986
Yes you are correct, but the good news is these problems can be fixed with updates, of course if Nintendo listens to people.
but I'm also hopeful they release a dlc that adds arena for battle mode.
hopefully Wii U sales will pick up, if MK8 doesn't do it, none of the other already established IP's will, and Nintendo then should just think about giving Wii U something completely new and Unique.
To those who say Mario kart didn't change the fortunes of N64 and GC, well lets be honest none of the games looked so awesome, the reviews have also been good, a good word of mouth from the fans starting June and hopefully the sales will pick up.

Darknyht

#15

Darknyht said:

I think it will improve sales, but not as much as they believe. The only thing that will help them is to expand the genres available.

They are lacking sports games. We need to see a return of 1080 snowboarding, Wave Race, Excite Series, Punch Out!, NBA Courtside, Ken Griffey, Jr series (under a new name), NHL Stanley Cup series since it is apparent that 2K Sports and EA Sports are not going to publish on Wii U. They don't need to make a yearly entry, do something radical like Sega once did with 2K Sports. Here's an easy one make an NBA, NHL, and MLB game that you purchase once and then DLC the roster changes for $20/year for the life of the console. Easy money.

Where are Star Fox, Metroid, Star Tropics, Kirby, Paper Mario, Custom Robo, Fire Emblem, F-Zero, Another Code, Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus and Sin & Punishment? As much as I enjoyed NES Remix 1 + 2 but they don't need remixes, they need new content. Take the second tier Nintendo properties and churn out $15 eShop titles with them. Who knows, maybe one of them will hit it big and elevate to the next level.

Yorumi

#17

Yorumi said:

@PJR0cks The first time MK was seen in full 3d didn't look awesome? Polygonal 3d graphics were mostly the realm of extremely high end PCs at the time. I don't think the gaming world will ever see such a mind blowing leap in performance like going from sprite graphics to what the n64 was capable of.

dumedum

#18

dumedum said:

It will sell in crazy numbers that companies like Sony can always dream of. No, it won't sell like Call of Duty but that's across multiplatforms. As far as exclusives go, Mario Kart will win and Smash Bros. won't be far behind. These are winners for Ninty ben porat yosef.

biglittlejake

#19

biglittlejake said:

Hopefully. If the Wii U sells better more people would want to make games for it. We can only hope.

Action51

#20

Action51 said:

@Yorumi - Agreed!

I think there is a level of nostalgia for Super Mario World and Ocarina of Time that goes beyond recognizing the greatness of those games and refuses to acknowledge that earlier and later entries in the series were just as good if not better because of that.

PJR0cks

#21

PJR0cks said:

@Yorumi
No you misunderstood what I said, I didn't mean just because this comes in HD it makes it a much improved version of the Wii, honestly I remember the times before the release of Mario kart 64, I honestly wasn't excited at all about the graphics seeing it in the magazines, but this is different, the changes made are much more significant then the last entries (purely talking about it's aesthetics), and this makes it a selling point for the game.
@Darknyht
I'm sure those games have a lot of fans, but they won't change the fortunes of a console, people like you or the guys that come here, you will each end up buying the console when your favorite title comes (if you haven't already), but for the mass public games like Mario Kart 8 or party games or multiplayer and social games do a lot better.
Edit: btw the sports game idea is gold, but I don't think Nintendo will do anything like that.

bizcuthammer

#23

bizcuthammer said:

Mario Kart and Smash Bros will both give the WiiU a nice boost, but there is no saving it now. It's too late now. The WiiU has become a joke in the media, and that perception (whether true or not) has sunk into the public mindset. The WiiU will be lucky to sell as many units as the Gamecube, and Nintendo has no one to blame but themselves for making an underpowered, gimmicky (although fun) console that they marketed terribly and didn't make it friendly for 3rd parties to use compared to its competition... All of that is why the WiiU has sold less than 7mil in 18 months. By the end of this year, it may not even have sold 10mil. That's awful. That's Sega Saturn level bad. Unless they can pull some kind of crazy magic trick in the very, very near future, the WiiU won't sell close to the 22mil the GameCube sold, making it Nintendo's biggest failure since the Virtual Boy.

ZeroZX_Dev

#24

ZeroZX_Dev said:

I have only one thing to say: promote the game well and Wii Us will sell. That's all.

Yorumi

#25

Yorumi said:

@PJR0cks you're absolutely nuts if you think tweaking the lighting is more significant than sprite vs polygon 3d. We've seen MK in 3d for 17 years now, but there's no way you could have experienced the snes/genesis and not been absolutely blown away by the n64. And to honestly say what's been done here is more significant than sprite vs 3d. You are literally out of your mind.

Yorumi

#26

Yorumi said:

@bizcuthammer the same thing the 3rd parties whined about on the wiiU(using the gpu) is the same thing they have to do on the ps4 and one. There's reasons certain 3rd parties arn't making games but it has nothing to do with the architecture. I am so sick of the misinformation clueless and uninformed people spread around.

PJR0cks

#27

PJR0cks said:

@Yorumi
God, people like you.... you're hopeless... can't be saved. you don't get it do you??? oh well never mind.

Yorumi

#28

Yorumi said:

@PJR0cks because I'm not wowed by lighting? I don't even particularly like mk64. You're the one who said changes in resolution and lighting are more significant than going from sprites to full 3d. In an era where hd has been a thing for more than 6 years saying it's a selling point to say a game is hd is like saying they should be advertising games are in color.

SahashraLA

#29

SahashraLA said:

Mario Kart. A system seller. That's the funniest thing I've heard since the Wii U released over 18 months ago. Nothing and I mean NOTHING is going to drag the Wii U from the grave. 3rd party developers haven't been making Wii U games in secret all this time and if they started on May 30, those games wouldn't be out until Nintendo was ready to release new hardware. Nintendo had their chance and that opportunity died slowly and painfully. Let's see this game sell 10 million and this year not be a complete waste, but I'm not holding my breath.

SahashraLA

#30

SahashraLA said:

Oh and Yoruimi, for the record, it's not like the SNES Mario Kart was a sidescroller or top down. That game was done in a weird, Star Fox-y 3D. Racing games were really the last titles to have been dramatically affected by the advent of three dimensions. So yeah, HD is the biggest step that the genre has taken. It's like comparing Doom and Wolfenstein to Farcry 3. Which is the only thing I'd have to agree with when it comes to whoever said 'HD drives better emotional responses'. Compare Outrun to NFS: Most Wanted.

Mahe

#31

Mahe said:

Mario Kart 8 and dropping the Gamepad would have been much bigger. Now the Gamepad will instead block even Mario Kart 8. The game will sell less than it could have, and Wii U consoles will sell less than they could have.

Laxeybobby

#32

Laxeybobby said:

@XCWarrior I totally agree with your view of UK sales. I'm in the Isle of Man and the WiiU has totally gone from all stores replaced by the other two.

Roger Langford - UK Nintendo Brand Manager - oh how I laugh. He should have been fired within the first three months of release. I've promoted the WiiU brand more than he has!!

To promote means to advertise and actively encourage people to buy the WiiU.
I haven't seen one advert on UK, SKY TV for MK8 let alone the WiiU.
I've seen a few for the 2DS when it was first released. I think his job is a license to print money.

Darknyht

#33

Darknyht said:

@PJR0cks Right now on Wii U, Nintendo has produced 4 Platformers, 6 Party, 1 Fitness, 2 Sports (I say that loosely), and 2 Action-Adventure games. Adding a Racer will help expand the genre field, but that is not a good variety and everyone eventually burns out on Party & Platformers. If the console was healthy, third parties would fill in the gaps. But it is not and Nintendo isn't filling the gaps making a less compelling console.

I look at the other console that lost third party support early (Dreamcast). Sega realized they needed games, and started producing. In less than 2 years, Sega produced 53 games for the console that covered every genre imaginable. They took risks and created franchises that are still loved (Shenmue, Space Channel 5, 2K Sports, Jet Grind Radio, Crazy Taxi, Virtua Series). They ultimately failed in the US and Europe because they lacked capital (which Nintendo doesn't).

What they didn't do was continually use Sonic while ignoring all their other franchises. I don't expect 53 games in 2 years, but I expect more than Mario, Mario, Mario.

Lasermaster123

#34

Lasermaster123 said:

Nintendo should advertise this heavily if they want to this game to meet its immense sales potential! If they mess up on that front, then even Mario Kart 8 won't be enough. I seriously hope that is not the case as I think the Wii U is great and just needs more awesome games!

Plus I love Mario Kart :D

Yorumi

#35

Yorumi said:

@SahashraLA um did anyone play these games? Super mario kart is using sprites in mode 7. The whole game is a sprite game. Starfox is using the FX chip to render polygons without textures. It uses sprites for some of the weapons but it's otherwise a full 3d world, although extremely low poly count.

I'm starting to think NL should do an educational series on technology and keep it on the front page.

luke88

#36

luke88 said:

Jesus, I haven't been this excited for a game in so long; probably not since goldeneye. I don't know that it will turn the wii u around though. If it were to be a catalyst it would need to be followed by other must have titles.

memoryman3

#37

memoryman3 said:

@gatorboi352 I don't think so.

First NPD data shows the core consoles are Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4 and PC.

Then Wii Party U sells a million despite reviews.....

Then Wonderful 101 flops at retail.

Then the best selling Wii U third party games are Rayman and Sonic and Skylanders......

Wii U is very much a family system.

unrandomsam

#42

unrandomsam said:

@memoryman3 Aliens was garbage anyway. (They should have axed the franchise and made some more interesting stuff). Sad they are not going to make anything else properly other than Sonic/Total War/Football Manager/Aliens.

Takerkaneanite6

#43

Takerkaneanite6 said:

I'm going to stay optimistic and say that Wii U sales will increase quite a bit and then continue saleing relatively well over the coming weeks, then sales will dip slightly while Mario Kart continues to sale well...

JAPBOO

#44

JAPBOO said:

I have an idea to sell more games and even Wii Us, create a Wii U remix, so that people con play small sections of Wii U games and really be tempted to get more games... a course of Mario Kart 8, pikmin, and so on, maybe like a mix demo game with some twists...

Peach64

#45

Peach64 said:

@Jamesy2013 @XCWarrior @Laxeybobby

Yes. Not only was the 3DS the best selling device last year, but Mario Kart Wii is the best selling game of all time in the UK. Some people just like to delude themselves that the UK is a special case, but the Wii U is doing no better in the US. I'm pretty sure Mario Kart 8 will chart higher in it's first week in the UK than it will on the NPD, just like pretty much every big Nintendo title does. The Wii U is behind the PS4 and Xbone in North American sales despite being out roughly three times as long, and the Wii U is posting monthly figures in the US behind the Gamecube and Dreamcast, but most people on here still going about this being a UK problem.

gatorboi352

#46

gatorboi352 said:

@Action51 "I think everyone just got done buying their "next gen" PS4 or XB1, and there is a level of disappointment and let-down after all the hype...and it won't translate into sales for Nintendo, but a slump for the industry going into the summer and waiting for E3."

LMAO. Only you sir (and maybe @JaxonH) could turn "why MK8 won't be the Wii U's savior" into a moment of not only bashing the competition, but outright blaming them for Nintendo's struggles. Rich stuff, indeed.

steamtrain

#47

steamtrain said:

@PJR0cks

I agree!

I always enjoyed playing MK games, but the visual impressions have never done it for me. So I've never owned a single MK game.

But this looks... I don't know of a more awesome word for awesome, but this is the game that has impressed me the most visually in a long time.

Even though I'm not very good at MK games, it's a day one buy!

gatorboi352

#48

gatorboi352 said:

@Yorumi You're right, it's not about the architecture. It's about Nintendo's crappy 3rd party relations that they have only themselves to blame.

gatorboi352

#49

gatorboi352 said:

@memoryman3 "Wii U is very much a family system."

Wrong. But hear me out. I say you're wrong because the system itself is not a family system at all. It's just that Nintendo has taken a "family style" approach in marketing the system. This in itself has been one of the many fundamental flaws of Wii U.

It's a console that ships with a single, gigantic dual analog controller. The GamePad scares off casuals quicker than you can say "click in the right analog stick to run". Yet, Nintendo felt the need to 1) continue on calling it Wii U anyways 2) do absolutely no marketing research whatsoever 3) dump it into said market and expect it to just take off selling like it was 2006 and Wii all over again.

Gnoll

#50

Gnoll said:

@memoryman3
Another Code was a graphic adventure/visual novel hybrid, which had an episode on DS and one on Wii, it was about an half-Japanese girl whose father dabbled in memory-altering trinkets. However the developer, Cing, closed a couple years ago so there will hardly be other episodes.

DarkKirby

#51

DarkKirby said:

If anything is going to suddenly pull the Wii U out of obscurity it's going to be Smash not Mario Kart, that said I think it's too late and 3rd parties have already abandoned the system.

antonvaltaz

#52

antonvaltaz said:

@DarkKirby Really? According to Wikipedia, Mario Kart Wii sold about three times as much as Super Smash Bros Brawl.

But I agree I don't think there's any bringing back major 3rd parties now...

Wolfgabe

#53

Wolfgabe said:

@memoryman3 W101 was mainly a niche game that appeals to a relatively small audience. With Wii Party U we have Japan to thank partially for those 1 million sales

Wolfgabe

#54

Wolfgabe said:

@bizcuthammer My a lot of people aren jumping onto the pessimistic bandwagon. I disagree on Public Mindset. The problem is more from lack of awareness as there are people who still don't know what Wii U is I seriously doubt the average person actually reads and follows gaming news sites

Daruncic

#55

Daruncic said:

@Darknyht Yeah but EA owns the publshing rights. The best another company can do is create "Nonlicensed Knockoff Baseball 2015"

ReigningSemtex

#57

ReigningSemtex said:

I hope for nintendos sake it does improve wii u sales.
I remember buying a gamecube for double dash back when it was released.

PJR0cks

#62

PJR0cks said:

@Darknyht
Well I agree with you there, what I'm saying is Nintendo has either got to re invent it's previous franchises or give new IP's, polishing the same old games because the formula worked before just doesn't cut it, for example look at SM3dW, probably the best platformer I played in my life, and the single player and local multiplayer was brilliant, but I wish It had online as well, it would have been great. they should do something new, that's all I'm saying, and I think the hardware is capable of doing it, they still can make things a whole lot better.

PJR0cks

#63

PJR0cks said:

If Nintendo doesn't sell consoles now, (that the new gen consoles have nothing to show for), what will happen coming fall, when games like destiny, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Madden, FIFA + the Microsoft / Sony exclusive release, and there is no sign of Wii U (awaiting the release of smash and a 6 months delayed watch_dogs.)
But I'm still hopeful, Wii U is currently selling at a rate of 1/4th of PS4, if it doesn't fall more behind and keep at a steady pace, it will finish with the 30 mil I believe and hope it will reach, while PS4 will probably hit somewhere between 100~120.

Mega719

#64

Mega719 said:

This should sell there's such fantastic titles already on or coming to wii u but people don't know that because the internet advertises it as a failure

JaxonH

#65

JaxonH said:

@gatorboi352

No bashing other consoles on my part. The only one I ever see bashing consoles is you with the Wii U. I own both a PS4 and Wii U and am very happy with both of them. Soon I'll be buying an X1 and enjoying that too. I don't bash consoles, I play them and enjoy them, not complain about them.

And I'm not blaming the competition for anything either. I'd appreciate it if you didn't just blindly accuse me of things I have not done. Again, I don't BLAME anyone because there's nothing to be blamed. I'm a happy gamer. I don't spend my life finding fault with video game platforms. I work, I disc golf, I hang out with friends, and I play video games. I don't have time to spend my life nitpicking and complaining about video games. As long as I'm having fun, I'll keep gaming. The day I stop having fun, I'll quit gaming LONG before I sit on fansites 24/7 complaining about them.

You do you and leave me alone. All you do is instigate arguments with me by posting provocative comments talking ABOUT me to someone else. You wanna whittle your years away complaining about Nintendo on a Nintendo fansite, go right ahead. But stay out of my business, and please keep my name out of your mouth. I'm done with this instigating argument crap.

JaxonH

#66

JaxonH said:

@memoryman3

Cause Just Dance sells. Far Cry 4 won't. Simple as that. These 3rd parties are in business to make money. If there was money to be made on Nintendo platforms with AAA games, they'd be bringing the games. They're not going to TURN DOWN money for no reason. The fact they're not bringing those games is further evidence (as if you needed any more than the 24 consective AAA flops on Wii U) that there is no market for AAA on Nintendo platforms. Again, if people would actually buy them, they'd bring them. It's a no brainer. They don't bring them because people don't buy them. I know it's hard to accept, but there comes a time when you have to face the facts. I'd LOVE to have Far Cry 4 on Wii U. It'd be great! But I understand that games don't come to a system if they can't sell.

XCWarrior

#67

XCWarrior said:

@Peach64 WiiU selling poorly is an everywhere problem, but it sure feels worse in the UK when nothing charts. I bet if we could actually see the top 40 list for the month in the US, some WiiU titles would make the list. Certainly 3DS titles. UK just seems to be nearly barren all the time.

Mario Golf is an awesome game, has no business already being out of the top 40 over there.

tanookisuit

#69

tanookisuit said:

Mario Kart 8 isn't going to make a difference. It will make a bump for anyone who held out knowing that it would come in time, same with Smash Bros. So far early reviews are showing MK8 is very boring and just paint by the numbers fill in for the 1P mode and that battle mode is weak as combat maps are out with just tracks to fight on are in. The big bump is that it's been centered around making the multiplayer game where it's at, kind of sadly like where FPS games went. If you don't like or can't get online, it will run boring quick. I can just see the used copies of this piling up at stores.

Jamesy2013

#71

Jamesy2013 said:

@XCWarrior already got mario golf, lets be honest golf isnt very everyone, sure its a awesome game but not everyone likes golf, especially in a country where football (or soccer) is the most popular sport

XCWarrior

#72

XCWarrior said:

@Jamesy2013 I get what your saying, but I'm not a huge fan of golf, but that series is amazing. People really need to give it a try. Amazing how addicting it is. Probably the best out of all the Mario sports series.

And you guys love track, and yet we dont get more track games. Wish we did.

electrolite77

#73

electrolite77 said:

@PJR0cks

Good point about this version looking particularly good. MK64 wasn't the best graphically especially with the main characters being sprites so it sold on the 4-player mode. In fact I remember plenty of disappointment that it wasn't as much of a step up from the SNES version when it first came out though the depth of the multiplayer and subtlety of the track design revealed itself over time. The Wii U version is instantly eye-catching and while nothing is going to 'save' Wii U hopefully this should give it a sales bump.

Zombie_Barioth

#74

Zombie_Barioth said:

@electrolite77
They weren't sprites, they were every bit as 3D as other Racing games at the time.

Having a 3D 4-player game was pretty big for the time too, before that you'd need an adapter for anything beyond 2-player, and not many games did that anyway that I know of. I think MK64 meant more to what racing games as a whole can do than what Mario Kart itself can. It wasn't genre defining like SM64 or OOT was though, some games did do what it does better in some ways.

electrolite77

#75

electrolite77 said:

@Zombie_Barioth

A lot of this is intangible and unmeasurable and , in the hope that MK8 will be some kind of catalyst a forlorn hope....except for the characters in MK64 being sprites on rendered backgrounds. That's out there, indeed the sprite sheets themselves are just at the end of a Google search. Around MK64's release there were plenty of PS/Saturn racers (and indeed Wave Race 64) with polygonal cars.

Fingers crossed for MK8 anyway, if the Wii U were to get anywhere near the N64's sales it would be amazing.

Zombie_Barioth

#76

Zombie_Barioth said:

@electrolite77
Whoops, looks like you were right. Thats what happens when you go off memories from 10-15 years ago.:$

Gotta give Nintendo credit for disguising that so well at least.

At any rate heres hoping MK8 has the punch the Wii U needs to gain some traction.

element187

#77

element187 said:

@2Sang I wouldn't judge the performance of MK8 for the launch sales.. MK8 will sell more copies and Wii U's this holiday.

My prediction is MK8 gives Wii U a modest bump at release, but the bigger bump of MK8 will come this holiday along with Smash

Action51

#78

Action51 said:

@gatorboi352 - You are confusing what I said.

First, I think Mario Kart 8 will sell very well to the installed user base. Everyone who owns a Wii U is excited for it and I plan to buy it day 1.

However...I think "next gen" fatigue is setting in. People just ran out to buy their shiny new PS4 and XB1...and after a year of bashing Nintendo for "not having any games" it's starting to dawn on them that their fancy new XB1 and PS4 "have no games" yet.

I keep hearing how people are going to back to their PS3 and X360 consoles...which I think were very good consoles for their time...because of how underwhelmed they are by the launch line-ups and release schedules for their "next-gen" systems.

Also, E3 anticipation is running high and people want to see what Nintendo has before investing in a console. So many rumors and so much talk floating around about kinect-less Xboxes, Nintendo dropping support for the Wii U, etc...

I really do think there is a "next gen" fatigue setting in. The hype is over and the returns are so far unimpressive.

Ultimately it's Nintendo's fault for squandering their 1 year lead on the competition's new console releases.

RaymanfanU

#81

RaymanfanU said:

I too really hope this gives the console a boost in sales. Im not expecting millions upon millions of consoles to be sold but I have a good feeling that Mario Kart 8 should help

zool

#83

zool said:

'Mario Kart 8 Will Serve as a Catalyst'?

A catalyst is a substance that can cause a change in the rate of a chemical reaction without itself being consumed in the reaction.

This is not possible with Mario Kart 8, unless Mario Kart 8 enticed people to buy a Wii u but not a copy of Mario Kart 8.

hydeks

#84

hydeks said:

I think it will help the Wii U alil bit, but not as much as Nintendo probably is hoping for, people are more worried about PS4 vs Xbox One :-P

Sceptic

#85

Sceptic said:

I don't think it will significantly impact sales. At this point it's perfectly clear what to expect from the WiiU and nobody in their right mind would buy one anymore at this point. The game itself will do OK though because we lot haven't got much choice. But hey, we'll see.

YoshiTails

#86

YoshiTails said:

@Nintenjoe64 really good pt - world cup and mariokart create a similar social atmosphere so connecting with that audience and saying hey, go have fun with your mates, would be a sensible use of marketing resources.

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