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Nintendo Considering Cross-Buy eShop Purchases, But Doesn't Have Anything To Announce Yet

Posted by Damien McFerran

Feature will be added if enough developers demand it

If you own a PS3 and PC Vita then you'll be aware of the excellent "Cross-Buy" function, which allows you to purchase a game on one system and then download it on the other for free — provided it's available on both in the first place, of course. With so many Virtual Console titles now appearing on Wii U, 3DS and Wii — not to mention cross-platform releases such as Star Wars Pinball and Rage of the Gladiator — it would certainly make sense for Nintendo offer something similar on its systems.

Speaking to Nintendo of America's Dan Adelman, Nintendo World Report popped the question we've been wanting to ask for ages:

NWR: On platforms such as Steam and Playstation Network they have what they call a Cross-Buy feature, so when you buy a game on the Playstation 3 or on a Windows PC, you can play the game on PSP/PS Vita or Mac/Linux, respectively. Is there any system in place right now or in the future to enable a similar Cross-Buy feature? For example, a game comes out on the Wii U that the 3DS can also run, and if the developer wants to enable customer play the game on both?

DA: We don’t have anything new to announce on that, but I believe that the idea’s been talked about. So it’s something we’re definitely up to considering if there’s enough demand from developers, but nothing to announce for right now.

Never mind demand from developers — it's the consumers who will want this the most. Wouldn't you be happier knowing that when you purchased a title on the Wii U you had the option to also download it on your 3DS at no extra cost? Would that encourage you to buy more games digitally? Leave a comment to tell us what you think.

[via nintendoworldreport.com]

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f00had

#1

f00had said:

All their Virtual Console titles should be cross-buy. If I buy a PS1 game from the PSN Store I can play it on my PS3, PS Vita or PSP however with Nintendo I'd have to buy it separately for each system. Not to mention that Nintendo games are overpriced, you can buy PS1 games that work on 3 systems for the same price as a NES title for just 1 system.

Riquerico

#2

Riquerico said:

Would definitely buy more VC games if they were cross-buy. And... "if developers demand it"? Really?

Ootfan98

#4

Ootfan98 said:

If developers demand it ??? WHF ???
What about if end customers demand it !
This is a must for Virtual Console

mch

#5

mch said:

I would welcome it. It would also help boosting the Wii U sales. Especially in Japan where "almost everyone" owns a 3ds.
More Wii U/3ds crossplay would rock too!

NES_64

#6

NES_64 said:

Cross-platform games, Cross-platform Miiverse and Cross-Platform Accounts please...if the developors demand it...Customers come first!

DualWielding

#7

DualWielding said:

cross buy is important, but account system is even more important, really no matter how fanboys want to spend it, Nintendo is pathetic in this area..... and "if developers demand it?' what about first party titles?

Samurai_Goroh

#8

Samurai_Goroh said:

Currently they have NES games on both the 3DS and Wii U. They should allow you to purchase it on one platform and play it on the other, its common sense.
Also, the two eShop accounts should be tied so that if I have 5 euros to spend on 3DS, I should be able to use that money on Wii U if I see fit and vice-versa.

phoenixology

#9

phoenixology said:

Wouldn't mind seeing this. Bought Retro City Rampage on Wii this year, so wouldn't mind having it on 3DS when it comes out too.

Personally, now RTC is confirmed on 3DS I think it would be better suited to the handheld anyway.

gaby_gabito

#10

gaby_gabito said:

it just seems like it would be the common sense thing to do. i think they just care more about what the consumer wants. it's the consumers who drive the market.

erv

#11

erv said:

I want to be able to download games that I have on disk. That way, even my physical purchases will become easily accessible through my hard drive enabled wii u. The less disc swapping and spinning, the better.

rjejr

#12

rjejr said:

Are we talking about the same company that charges you an extra $1.50 to play your 20 year old VC games on your Wii U? Actually some of them may be 30 years old, is that possible? They charge $5 for s 30 yr old game they own on Wii and then another $1.50 to play a game we own on the Wii U?

Oh yeah, Nintendo is really pushing cross-buy.

DuplexGemini

#13

DuplexGemini said:

If Nintendo implemented a 'Cross-Buy' feature for the 3DS & Wii U VC titles, I would be inclined to play Mega Man 2 on the 3DS VC without having to pay for it again for a slightly more expensive price (Wii U: £3.49 vs 3DS: £4.49).

Reasons like this is why I hope Nintendo release an update to the 3DS to become compatible with Nintendo Network ID user accounts, especially as it's the same service as the Wii U. Plus having a solution for games to be tied to accounts as opposed to consoles, which is a big reason why I'm not keen on digital versions of retail games.

PS: lol at the typo 'PC Vita'

Samurai_Goroh

#14

Samurai_Goroh said:

@erv They won't do that because you could just install it for you and lend it indefinitely to a friend. They would have to put in place a DRM system like the Xbox One originally intended and God forbid that. We're better off as we are in that regard.

Samurai_Goroh

#16

Samurai_Goroh said:

@PinkSpider A new handheld console that plays Vita games and PC-Engine HuCards. Finally play Cho Aniki on the go, while skyping with friends and family. ;)

idork99

#17

idork99 said:

Yes and yes!

I just received a Wii U as a gift. And although I have the option of repurchasing the same titles I used to own on the Wii Virtual Console for a fraction of the cost, I'm still having to pay again. I own Punch-Out!! On Wii, 3DS, and Wii U for $11. Just wish I could pay $5 flat and enjoy the game on the Nintendo system of my choice.

It would be nice but I don't see it happening anytime soon :(

belmont

#18

belmont said:

@f00had You are absolutely right.

If you buy, let's say FF7 on PS3 you can also play it for free on a PSP and PS Vita. Yet if you want to play, let's say, Zelda on all your Nintendo consoles you have to pay three times for it.

DualWielding

#20

DualWielding said:

Nintendo is the company that expect you to buy again all your digital titles if your consoles get stolen, is the company that expect you to buy a new console if you ever move to a different region and want to pick physical games in a local store, is the company that expect you to pay extra to play the game you already own in the main Wii U window instead of an slow emulated Wii window..... yah I totally see that company implementing cross buy.....

Spoony_Tech

#21

Spoony_Tech said:

This only works really if the game is exactly the same so VC works however almost all eshop games differ enough that its 2 separate games!

GamerZack87

#24

GamerZack87 said:

Couldn't this same feature work for people with two or more 3DS consoles, such as being able to download two copies of the same game for multiplayer fun without having to shell-out for it? In any case this is one feature for which I've been patiently waiting since the eShop's birth over two years ago.

pumaX

#25

pumaX said:

The account system is very important. They need to include it in the next system update.

TwilightV

#26

TwilightV said:

If it's older games sure, but I don't want to have games I can just get at retail forcing me to buy an External HD every year or so. : /

Mrclaycoat

#27

Mrclaycoat said:

I am actually avoiding most VC purchases because of this. If this cross buy came into effect, I would be buying TONS of VC games!

KnightRider666

#28

KnightRider666 said:

@Riquerico: I feel you completely!

Screw the developer's demanding it, what about the consumers? Without us, they won't have to worry about selling any games period.

Cohort

#29

Cohort said:

The VC games would actually be worth the price if they were 'cross-buy"

SphericalCrusher

#30

SphericalCrusher said:

This would be fantastic! Mostly for the part in having stuff synced to eShop. For instance, my wife's 3DS was stolen and all of her purchased games are pretty much just gone... hoping something like this avoids that kind of headache in the future.

datamonkey

#31

datamonkey said:

"Never mind demand from developers — it's the consumers who will want this the most"

+10000000000

This is so true. Nintendo stating they want demand from developers is a poor excuse to not implement this. They know it doesn't really benefit developers so they won't be that bothered about requesting it.

This is a consumer benefit and sometimes it feels like Nintendo forgets the consumer is the most important part of any business...

They need to take a leaf out of Sony's book in my opinion where they offer so much more value for online games/functionality than Nintendo do.

Humphries90

#32

Humphries90 said:

I'm sure I've heard Nintendo use that poor excuse before... sort of saying "be mad at developers, not us."

SkywardLink98

#33

SkywardLink98 said:

This is a must for me to continue buying from their store. The "the developers are who we listen to" excuse isn't cutting it Nintendo.

Burning_Spear

#34

Burning_Spear said:

Another misleading headline. "Definitely up to considering if there's enough demand" doesn't sound like definitely "considering" to me.

Dogpigfish

#35

Dogpigfish said:

Doesn't matter. Sony's service seems to enable this on games that are selling poorly; not exactly the best games for this service.

UnseatingKDawg

#36

UnseatingKDawg said:

Doesn't anyone realize that nobody's holding a gun to your head to purchase a game two/three times over? We ain't exactly entitled to this setup, you know - it's just a nice perk.

A nice perk that they should really consider putting in...

InternetFurret

#38

InternetFurret said:

They said nothing about the virtual console because the 3ds one doesnt have snes games yet, but i hope they reconsider this when all virtual console games are the same in both platforms.

DarkNinja9

#41

DarkNinja9 said:

yeah this to me is something they already should of made for the VC and announced on the last direct >.<

Rafie

#43

Rafie said:

@Dogpigfish Ummmm.....no! You might want to research that. There are plenty of fantastic games that are cross buy and is available day one. You must not have a PlayStation.

Peach64

#44

Peach64 said:

I'd love it if they did this. It's so nice being able to move PSOne classics between the PS3 and PSP/Vita, and with the next update they're making it even easier to transfer files wirelessly, so no need to hook them up via USB. Sometimes I want to play on the big TV, sometimes I want to move it the handheld and continue on lunch breaks at work,

Rafie

#45

Rafie said:

If Nintendo did this, it would be absolutely wonderful and will only give Nintendo more revenue in the long run. No one likes to double dip within the same gaming company for the same game. I know it's 2 different consoles, but seriously why would I want to buy Mega Man 3 on the Wii U, when I have it on the 3DS?! Nintendo accounts needs to be merged from the Wii U and 3DS. This would make things easier on consumers and still be bountiful on the business side.

MixMasterMudkip

#46

MixMasterMudkip said:

I don't care to much about Wii U and 3DS Ware, but there is no reason this shouldn't happen with VC games.

gspro15198

#47

gspro15198 said:

I would absolutely love cross buy. it would be especially cool if saves synced between both versions using the cloud. I'd also love if games were tied to an account and not to the console. that way I can download games and install them on a couple of Wii Us and have a 3DS for taking on the road while having the 3DSXL for home gaming.

jjmesa16

#48

jjmesa16 said:

The only problem that I have with downloading games digitally is that they are not portable. Say you want to go to a friends house and he already has a Wii U but doesn't have a game that you have. Why wouldn't you just take the disc instead of taking the entire console? If I could download games to an external hard drive, have them locked onto the hard drive, and have the ability to play them on any Wii U console, I would always buy games digitally. I have started to buy games digitally on my 3DS so that I don't have to carry around the games and and there is no chance of loosing them but that is a different story.

Whopper744

#50

Whopper744 said:

I doubt it will happen, but yes I believe it should. Though some control issues could make that more complicated.

NbaJunkie

#51

NbaJunkie said:

Nintendo is notorious for nickel and diming their loyal fan fanbase when it comes to this stuff. I don't see this feature being implement.besides NOA handles the hype machine. They aren't informed when it comes to insider news.

BertoFlyingFox

#52

BertoFlyingFox said:

I dont really feel there's a huge need for crossbuy implementation. Although it would be good for VC titles, that's a lot of development work that could be better used on a unified account system or better 3DS/WiiU system stability (or you know, more new games).

Crossbuy is great between PS3 and Vita but gamers forget that was after PSP owners with UMD's were politely told to love off and re-purchase the game digitally (you could bet most PSP games cost more than VC titles) for their Vita. Mind you, most of those UMD games were never brought to PSN so people still have to keep their PSP and UMDs around or they'll forever lose those games. With DS and 3DS, I dont have to worry about DS games that were never brought to 3DS because it could play both cartridges.

It would definitely be good for indie games on the eShop but the developers are the ones that have to make their games with this crossbuy in mind. Dragon's Crown had no cross-buy option along with a few others that dont easily come to mind, so developers are definitely part of the driving force. Consumers just buy things, we arent developing games for the eShop.

LeVideoGamer

#53

LeVideoGamer said:

At the very least, every single VC game should be cross-buy, and should transfer to the successors of the Wii U and the 3DS for free. I would think that indie and retail games should be as well.

Gressil

#54

Gressil said:

Yes! I would love that! I have two very large SD cards waiting for it. MH3U in this fashion would have been perfect, but oh well. Better late than never.

Doma

#56

Doma said:

@Ootfan98 We'd all have real accounts by now if they cared about customer demands. At this point, i'm completely fine with avoiding eShop altogether, so these moronic responses don't faze me.

yuwarite

#57

yuwarite said:

I hate it when a Journalist asks a question, but won't press further on it, especially as in this case. It's poor journalism, imo.

Neram

#58

Neram said:

Something like this would have been great for Virtual Console pruchases, but obviously it's a bit too late for that now considering most people have already bought separate versions of the same game across Wii, Wii U, and 3DS.

KillerGBH

#59

KillerGBH said:

Finally a good news for those who own both nintendo console :) . we need that feature , i hate to pay 2 times for the same game its kinda lame . hope they willl do that

BF-Medic

#60

BF-Medic said:

Why would developers ever demand it? Nintendo really need to focus on the demand of the customers on these issues. That might help them to push more systems.

eza

#61

eza said:

Hey developers!
Want to sell your game only once instead of multiple times?
What do you mean "no"?
Sorry consumers - developers didn't demand it!

DrMonk

#63

DrMonk said:

This needs to happen so bad. It should be default for virtual console (I believe we are already paying enough for this). Maybe they will launch it with Smash Bros - would be weird to truly have to buy this twice when so much of the game is the same on both platforms. Surely they can learn from Apple in this regard and realise the benefits of a rich ecosystem across platforms!?!

RobbySuave

#64

RobbySuave said:

Developers? Like...Nintendo? Most Virtual Console games are 1st party. I would buy way more games if I could play them on my 3DS and my Wii U.

solcross

#65

solcross said:

I've stopped buying Virtual Console titles for platforms that are available on both Wii U and 3DS for this reason. I'm not going to get taken advantage of by Nintendo's dated approach to online content, not in this day and age.

SetupDisk

#67

SetupDisk said:

A must for Vc games. In the rare instance where a Wii U game and 3DS have same content like MH it would be nice.

Ryno

#68

Ryno said:

Yes, you should only have to buy a game one time and never have to pay for it again and be able to play it on every console you will ever own.

Samurai_Goroh

#69

Samurai_Goroh said:

Aside from VC, they could do this with a few Wii U/ 3DS games. I'm thinking Super Smash Brothers. They would lose immediate profits on software, but could seriously win in hardware sales. "Buy it for 3DS and Nintendo will offer you the Wii U game for download. Or vice-versa. Don't have a Wii U yet? Aren't you tempted to get one, now that we´re offering you this amazing game?"
Risky move, but with good marketing they could make it work to have the 3DS install base and the power of Smash Bros. fuelling Wii U sales.

TrueWiiMaster

#71

TrueWiiMaster said:

I'm only really interested in cross-buy for VC games, and Nintendo's the biggest developer there...

SCAR392

#75

SCAR392 said:

You guys realize that cross-buy kinda goes hand in hand with an account system, right? Not to mention Miiverse will be on both systems.
That should give some ideas that this is probably going to happen, soon.

FadedSun

#78

FadedSun said:

Whatever is available for VC on Wii-U should also be available to play on the 3DS. Nintendo is losing out on tons of money by making certain VC games only available on Wii-U. I'm looking at you Earthbound.

SCAR392

#79

SCAR392 said:

VC cross-buy seems like it would be available, for sure. Games like Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate need it too, or at least a discount.

The reason some companies don't like it, is because they think they can get double revenue from both versions. That's not entirely the case, because a system wide compatible cross-buy would make developers always have both systems in mind. As long as a game can be played on both, I see no reason why it would be excluded from one or the other.

Most of the games from Capcom seem to have been able to be cross-playable, but they also worked getting those games working on both systems by their own own means.

We'll have to see exactly how this plays out, because I could see how some may have both versions from the start, while others charge a small fee to have both playable.

Xiao_Pai

#80

Xiao_Pai said:

Works for me, some of the VC games appearing on the 3DS that are already on the Wii U/Wii seems like a waste of money to me, prefer to just buy the game once and be done wit it.
(I guess I don't mind re-buying them on the Wii U from the Wii though...then again, I dunno...>.>)

Retroking1981

#81

Retroking1981 said:

Great idea but ultimately pointless without AN ACCOUNT SYSTEM!!!

Create an account Nintendo and you would get literally hundreds and hundreds of pounds off me.

I'd get every VC version of my Nintendo collection (hundreds of games since NES) that is available. Its such a good way to protect the consumer against theft.

The only games I'd keep would be licensed stuff that'll never be available, E.g. Goldeneye on N64

KingofSaiyans

#82

KingofSaiyans said:

Why is Nintendo so slow to embrace simple gaming paradigms? They move slower than a snail on molasses. And why would cross play features be in the hands of the developers? It's the consumers that would demand it. Smh. I don't understand what goes on in those executive offices in Japan. It seems like all they do is prance around in muliti-colored tingle outfits all day. I feel they take advantage of the most loyal fans because even though we all know that a lot of their business practices are outdated we still purchase their products.

banacheck

#83

banacheck said:

"if developers demand it"

Nintendo are totally out of touch, i don't see this or a account system ever coming to Nintendo console.

audiobrainiac

#84

audiobrainiac said:

Yes that would make me really happy! And OF COURSE i'd buy more digital games if that were the case! Highly unlikely to happen though i suppose.

SCAR392

#86

SCAR392 said:

^Guys, it's a given we(the consumers) want it. Like I said earlier, account systems and cross-buy go hand in hand. You literally can't have one wuthout the other.

They bring up developers, because it can enhance games and possibly add more features. Nintendo needs to address that, no doubt, but this is in no way standard.

Sony may have had this sort of system worked out years ago, but that has taken time as well, and still isn't allowing users to take advantage. Xbox doesn't really have much of game sharing, either.

There really is no reason to complain. I don't really like PS games, so Sony's account system doesn't really matter to me. Obviously, that's my opinion, but I'm sure alot of people don't take Sony or Apple into account, because of the content they offer. Besides Sony and Apple's account systems are arguably lacking as well. Since we know what those devices can do, we're able to point out exactly where they fall short.

baba_944

#87

baba_944 said:

I'm confused why does everyone want cross-buy? If you want to buy a game for "NINTENDO WII U" or "NINTENDO 3DS" then buy/download it on their respective systems.

Blue-Thunder

#90

Blue-Thunder said:

Nintendo might be considering it! Ha Ha that's a joke. Nintendo are the meanest company out there. We all bought the games on Wii VC and now they want us to buy them again Wii U VC. And don't talk to me about transferring games over from Wii because I don't like playing stretched games.

I have 3 PS3 consoles and I can play all the games I purchased from PSN on all of them. Nintendo aren't even trying.

Dambuster

#91

Dambuster said:

Not cool. Please watch the insults; if you don't have anything nice to say, it's better to not say anything at all — TBD

wombatkidd

#95

wombatkidd said:

@KingofSaiyans Then show some self control and don't? I don't see why not buying something is so hard. No one's forcing you.

@Falco "And don't talk to me about transferring games over from Wii because I don't like playing stretched games.".

Well you could always have just adjusted your tv's aspect ratio settings to 4:3 and not had to play them stretched, but they fixed that problem in the latest Wii U update anyway. And god forbid you pay a dollar to get new added features even though you can just skip the added features and not pay for the upgrade if you want. rolls eyes

RADencker

#98

RADencker said:

@Ootfan98 I totally agree with you. While I think some consideration should go to what developers think, ultimately it should be what the consumers demand, and what's best for business.

I'd think developers would support this type of thing. But some may think it would eat into the money they can make by charging for each download. I would think you'd get more people to buy the titles knowing they could play it on 3DS and Wii U for one proce. But, who really knows what some of these developers/publishers think.

SCAR392

#99

SCAR392 said:

@Falco
Actually, they fixed that "issue". Your Wii VC games show up in 4:3 ratio in Wii Mode as of the update on Sept. 30.

I noticed immediately, because my brother and I play Pokemon Puzzle League every now and then. No more stretching.

Blue-Thunder

#102

Blue-Thunder said:

@wombatkidd
Oh sorry but my tv and everyone else tv can't be put into 4/3 aspect when the picture is in 1080p. I'd like to be able yo play the games on the Wii downstairs and the Wii U upstairs. Is that to much to ask? Or should I carry a console round under my arm? Rolls eyes..

Jazzer94

#103

Jazzer94 said:

One thing I don't understand is the difference of the price of NES games on Wii U and 3DS e-shop.

KingofSaiyans

#104

KingofSaiyans said:

@wombatkidd
It's the principal of the whole thing dude. I support Nintendo by buying their products hoping that all the money they generate will fund any expenses to create a modern up-to-date gaming experience for everybody.

unrandomsam

#106

unrandomsam said:

@Falco Depends what annoys you.

(For me Sony removing features on an already released product is just totally unacceptable / They burnt me with the Xperia Play as well by lying.)

When a company acts like Sony does then you totally don't know what they will do at any time. (With Nintendo and MIcrosoft features are never removed).

Judging by past actions Sony might say in a years time all those free PS+ games that we said you could have you could have indefinitely if you joined this you cannot have them anymore because the PS3 is EOL.

unrandomsam

#107

unrandomsam said:

Can anybody think of a game (Other than VC) where this would be something that anybody would want.

All the ones I know where it is the exact same game the 3DS version is garbage.

unrandomsam

#108

unrandomsam said:

There is stuff like Bit trip saga where the 3DS version is only slightly worse but that is only on Wii Disk or Wiiware afaik.

Eldoon

#109

Eldoon said:

I absolutely welcome this. My last cross-buy title was Spelunky and I got it both for Vita and PS3. It's an awesome thing.

JaxonH

#110

JaxonH said:

Of course I would like to see cross-buy, at the very least for VC games. However, it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen. I've been gaming Nintendo for over 20 years and never had cross-buy, so I'm used to it. But, if they do ever want to implement something like this, I'd certainly be a little more cavalier with my VC purchases.

JaxonH

#111

JaxonH said:

@wombatkidd
You have proven yourself a formidable opponent in the craft of Nintendo debate. Your challengers have all fallen to the wayside, burnt to a crisp...

JaxonH

#112

JaxonH said:

@unrandomsam
A good point actually. And it should be noted that many Nintendo games (non-VC) are actually different on each platform. Sonic Colors, Sonic Lost World, Super Smash Bros 4... I'm sure there's others as well. The ONE game I can think of that would benefit from cross-buy, is Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Especially considering the two games have cross-platform co-op and cross-platform save-transfers. And it's a phenomenal game on both Wii U and 3DS (CPP highly recommended)

JaxonH

#113

JaxonH said:

@Falco
Mean company? Dude, they're allowing you to upgrade from the Wii VC version to the overly superior Wii U VC version for a dollar. That's pretty freaking generous actually. And the update fixed the stretching. Original format for all Wii VC games now.

Also, Nintendo GIVES AWAY free DLC Fire Emblem Awakening- we got Champions of Yore Map Pack free, then Spotpass weapon/map DLC free on a regular basis for 4 months. Pikmin 3- we just got a Mission Mode map free as DLC. Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, and Animal Crossing- all have received and are still slated to receive free DLC.

Nintendo GIVES AWAY free eShop credit with the Digital Deluxe Promotion. They gave away free eShop credit in August just for loading money into your eShop account- you didn't even have to spend it! Nintendo gave away $30 eShop credit for buying Fire Emblem Awakening and SMT 4... I've accrued $65 in eShop credit free from Nintendo just this year alone, along with tons of free DLC for my games.

Ambassador Program. Nintendo gave 3DS owners TWENTY free VC games, most of which STILL aren't available for purchase. Good GBA ones too, like Mario Kart Super Circuit, Metroid Fusion, F-Zero Maximum Velocity, Fire Emblem Sacred Stones, and Zelda Minish Cap.

Zelda Four Swords Adventures and Excitebike 3D. Nintendo gave both these games out for free to 3DS owners last year.

Wii U VC 30 Cent Promotion. Nintendo gave us 6 games for just 30 cents each, one of which was Super Metroid. They could have sold that game for $7.99, but they practically gave it away instead.

I'd say Nintendo's a pretty nice company. Just remember they ARE a for-profit company though, and that means they must make a profit off you and me to stay in business. That means it's a never ending quest to part you from your coin. Don't take it personal.

steveex

#115

steveex said:

They really need to get cross-play sorted for VC games. I would buy so many more games if I could play them on my 3DS and Wii U.

Meaty-cheeky

#116

Meaty-cheeky said:

If Nintendo makes Cross play happen for Wii U and 3DS, I would go on a Nintendo e Shop shopping spree!

Gridatttack

#117

Gridatttack said:

I see.
I guess they just want more money :P

I came to realize this when I wanted to buy The lost levels for 3DS, but then I realized I already have it on wii, so I used the money to buy something else.

Also, if they ever implement this, I wonder how they will implement it. Perhaps via a firmware update, but then, what about the games you bought on the wii? (wii to wiiu transfer might do the trick...)

shinesprite

#118

shinesprite said:

Honestly, I think I'd rather first have cloud-saves, a proper Club Nintendo game-linked account system; and the ability to buy games for mobile/console games from either eShop, mobile devices, or a computer, and then having them auto-download, so they'll be waiting for me when I want to play them.

Cross-Buy purchases would be great for consumers, but, more realistically, I can see this as being an option which would probably be left up to the developers.

OdnetninAges

#119

OdnetninAges said:

This'd be fantastic. After I (finally) get my Wii U, I'd be able to download a ton of VC games on it for free. I wonder if that would include the GBA games?

Probably not.

KnightRider666

#120

KnightRider666 said:

@JaxonH: You do have a point, but Nintendo nice or not needs to get with the times here and give us a unified account based system(w/ cross buying for VC at the minimum), and stop making excuses/beating around the bush about it. There's a reason Nintendo always seems to be in last in the home console wars(handhelds excluded), and this is one of the reasons why...

electrolite77

#121

electrolite77 said:

Not too fussed about this, it's great Sony do it but Nintendo have other priorities-a proper unified account system, games not tied to hardware, and cross-platform VC purchases.

I lost 40+ VC/Wiiware games when my Wii got stolen and until the above happens, not one digital penny from me. Stop denying yourself money, Nintendo.

banacheck

#122

banacheck said:

@unrandomsam
The PS3 has been around nearly 8 years all i see is added features, but yes its a total mystery why thay removed the other OS. I think you would be more at home on a PC, where piracy is easy.

JaxonH

#123

JaxonH said:

@KnightRider666
Well, they actually were 1st in the home console wars just last generation. And the generations before that, there was no such thing as VC or online shops.

Having said that, I don't think this is an issue that matters as much as people blow it up to be. Yes I'd like to see net-tied accounts over hardware-tied accounts, yes I'd like to see a unified account system with VC cross-buy, yes I'd like to see all that. But there's a lot of things I'd like to see. This is actually not that big of a deal, it's just a big deal in theory, which plays on fear to spread.

Now, net-tied accounts are definitely something I'm for. But the main argument in its favor is "What if my console breaks or gets stolen?" The fact of the matter is, this is a total non-issue for the vast majority of us, but fear thrusts this issue to the forefront. I've been gaming a long time, and I've never once had a Nintendo console break on me. Ever. I don't think anyone has actually, save perhaps a very, very small percentage, a negligible number really. You'll have moved onto a new console LONG before your Wii U or 3DS kicks the bucket, and that's a fact, unless you plan on sticking with that one console the rest of your life.

99.9% of everyone who complains about this issue, will never even need it implemented. What makes the issue even less relevant is the fact that you CAN get your content replaced through Nintendo if you have a Club Nintendo account (if you haven't opened one, do it, and link it to your console). It's a hassle, sure, but you will get your content back.

Unified accounts will accomplish nothing. It's just a merging of the accounts on 3DS and Wii U. We'll get that when Miiverse comes to 3DS, most likely (one NNID for both systems).

Cross buy is cool and all, but without cross-save it's a pointless feature. I know I don't want to start playing the game over from scratch when I switch to a handheld or visa versa. But even with cross-save, all it's doing is saving consumers a little money. And I'm a consumer, I get it, but it's not the end of the world. I dont' NEED to own a game twice. And if I want to own it twice, I probably am willing to shell out an extra $5 to do so. Cross buy would be nice, but make no mistake- it's a luxury, not a necessity.

If we're going to rally for a cause, I would think it better to rally for lost or endangered franchises we care about, or rally for Bluetooth headset compatibility, or rally for a Party Chat feature so players can chat during any game, even when playing different games. THESE are issues that matter to me. Not signing in my 3DS with my NNID, not getting Super Mario Bros 3 on my handheld when I buy on Wii U eShop.

Don't get me wrong, if I could wave a magic wand and make all those things happen, I WOULD. But I don't think they're worth complaining about all the time. If they change their policy they change their policy. If they don't they don't. But the fact is, Nintendo saves us money in other areas (no online subscription fees, we can sell last gen system to recoup costs since we have backwards compatibility, no proprietary memory cards like the $100 Vita memory card, etc...) Sony and MS have so many paywalls and extra expenses, they can fund giving games away with cross-buy. Nintendo isn't getting monthly fees from us or $100 for 3DS memory cards.

Just because Nintendo isn't doing something Sony is doing, doesn't mean we should complain about it all the time. There's a lot of things Nintendo DOES do that Sony DOESN'T, so it's give and take. Cross buy isn't a God-given right just cause Sony does it with a few games (and it is just a few). I mean Nintendo does backwards compatibility and free online, but that doesn't mean it's the industry standard just cause Nintendo does it. Sony doesn't care if Nintendo does it. They have their own policies and that's what they're going to follow. The same applies for Nintendo.

MiNiStRy

#124

MiNiStRy said:

How about fixing it so we can have accounts linked to what we buy!
None of this linked to the console crap!

KnightRider666

#125

KnightRider666 said:

@JaxonH: I disagree. I think we should have the best of all worlds. Combine what conviences have been already done in the past and present and make them part of the future. In other words, take Sony's network ID/crossbuy, and add the nice things Nintendo has already done for us and make this our VERY NEAR future for their current systems. There's absolutely no reason to not provide us the consumers with as many conviences as possible. Sure cross save would be cool, but I don't believe even Sony has done this yet. But it's wasteful to have to buy the same exact game twice, VC or not. I don't know about you, but I don't like to just throw my money away.

XyVoX

#126

XyVoX said:

With PS+ and Crossbuy PS3 has stole this generation for me everyone else lags behind with their model.

Emaan

#128

Emaan said:

Virtual Console games should definitely have this feature. I don't want to repurchase the classics every system generation. There needs to be an account system if they want to keep pushing the eShop has a viable option.

SCAR392

#129

SCAR392 said:

@KnightRider666
That why you don't buy the same game twice. They expect you to have common sense and buy it for either the 3DS or Wii U, but not both.

Buy it once and leave it. Yes, it would be nice to have cross-buy, but I agree with @JaxonH. It's a luxury. Video games in general are a luxury. Also, cross-buy goes hand in hand with an account system, which alot of people complaining apparently don't know.

It's beyond me how people don't even know how this stuff is implemented, yet ask for such features. Asking for cross-buy and acounts as separate things proves to me that many people don't even know how such features are supposed to work.

electrolite77

#130

electrolite77 said:

Having lost 40 VC/Wiiware downloads when my Wii got stolen, a proper ID-centric online account system is an essential to me. My PS3 was stolen, I replaced it, signed in to PSN, downloaded all my old games. I replaced my Wii, no such luck. Unacceptable. Sony, Google, Apple, Amazon, Kobo, everyone else I have digital content with manages to tie it to an account but Nintendo can't.

It's an issue for Nintendo because until it's fixed, my Eshop purchases will be pretty much nonexistent. As a company that currently exists to sell games, that's not good.

unrandomsam

#131

unrandomsam said:

@banacheck I am not about bothered about piracy (Other than if anti piracy measures affect me in a negative way in any way shape or form).

The otheros was the main thing about the PS3 I was interested in though. (Reading the IBM articles about programming it which are pretty damn good). If they removed it for newer revisions I would be ok with that as well.

They did rip me off with the Xperia Play (£500 sim free when it first came out). PS1 games and a firmware update to Android 4.0 were both promised. It got a total of 8 PS1 games and the firmware update never happened. (Which means newer stuff that supports the standard Android gamepad mapping won't work.) The compass also has a manufacturing defect they won't fix that.

They always choose proprietary memory or anything different to anybody else. Other than blu ray which they broke for everybody. (Impossible to skip just to the actual film if you want to watch it - loads of messing around)

Microsoft - RROD fix no matter the age of the console because it is a manufacturing defect.
Nintendo dual layer disks won't work - fix as it a manufacturing defect.
Sony their own firmware update bricks consoles - charge £80. (No manufacturer other than them would ever do that).

(I have not actively looked for other instances but there is other well known ones. They have changed their mind about charging for online after for ages saying we will never be doing that. They are scum).

If you look at Neo Geo earliest and last releases something similar should have happened with the PS3 (The Neo Geo lasted 14 years).

WaxxyOne

#133

WaxxyOne said:

I think Nintendo should definitely do this, yes. Even if they charged a modest fee for downloading the same game on another device, I would most likely take advantage of it. For example, right now I am not considering getting Smash Bros. on my 3DS at all. However, if I could grab it for $5-10 after purchasing the Wii U version, it would be incredibly tempting, especially if there are decent cross-platform features.

brandonbwii

#134

brandonbwii said:

Unfortunately, I don't think that's the biggest issue indies have with Nintendo at the moment.

element187

#135

element187 said:

@UnseatingKDawg how dare you suggest that. Don't you know most gamers are Marxist and don't believe companies should profit for providing a service?

Nintendo doesn't do cross buy because Nintendo gamers keep buying their VC games multiple times on multiple systems..... Stop purchasing the same VC games multiple times. Speak with your wallets. &&@$ing and moaning on a message board won't do any good. Blaming the company for wanting to make money is pretty foolish as well.

element187

#136

element187 said:

@Ryno sounds like people didn't read the EULA agreement when purchasing their VC games.

Right now Nintendo doesn't have a financial incentive to do it.... And developers certainly won't demand it... Do you really think Capcom would want Nintendo to allow their customers who bought MH3U on their Wii U to download it for free on their 3DS? Yeah I don't see any developer requesting this.

The upgrade fee for your VC games is reasonable. You are paying for a much better emulator/features... If you really think the $1.50 is too much, then stick with your Wii version. Nobody is sticking a gun to your head.

element187

#137

element187 said:

@JaxonH excellent post and right on the money.

Self entitled gamer syndrome. People think their entitled to something that they are not entitled to.... I would love to have cross buy, but whining on the Internet won't change that. The best way to get Nintendo to listen is to stop buying the same game on multiple systems. By buying the same game twice they are actually incentivizing Nintendo to stick with the policy.

Personally I'm downloading VC games that are more suited for long play sessions on Wii U (Metroid, Zelda, etc) while downloading VC games best for short bursts of play (Mario/Excitebike) on the 3DS

KnightRider666

#138

KnightRider666 said:

@SCAR392: It's not about common sense, it's about convience! I like having the game on my big screen on the Wii, and having on the go on my 3DS. You shouldn't have to pay twice for the same thing. What's so hard to understand that?

wombatkidd

#139

wombatkidd said:

@Falco That's funny, because EVERY hdtv I have ever owned or looked into owning CAN be put into 4:3 when running in 1080p. Please tell me the mythical model of tv you are using that doesn't let you.

Blue-Thunder

#140

Blue-Thunder said:

@wombatkidd
Yes its a totally obscure model by an unknown company it's a Sony Bravia KDL-40EX503 2011 model and I also have a Sony Bravia KDL-40EX401 2010 model and a older 42"Phillips that doesn't allow it either. So take your head out of your arsh and stop talking BS.

Nintendo have now fixed the borders on the Wii mode of the Wii U so the games aren't stretched because you can't change the aspect to 4/3 when it's in 1080p. Do you even own a Wii U? because you seriously haven't got a clue.

And you needn't start talking to me about TV's. At least I actually own a few TV'S not like you "Looking into owning" Because that's as close as you'll get to owning one is looking at it through a shop window.

wombatkidd

#141

wombatkidd said:

@Falco
Yeah, I just checked the specs on the two TV's you gave model numbers for and they both allow it. And every Phillips model allows it. Stop talking out YOUR "arsh" and learn how to operate your TV. Then all these problems caused by your own stupidity will disappear. But since you've resorted to insults and insinuating I'm poor, I know you don't have an argument and are just trolling.

And for the record, I have 3 HDTVs in my house right now that all allow that. It's in the aspect ratio settings. Learn to use them.

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