Round Table: Let's Talk About the F-Zero Franchise

We need a new F-Zero game on Wii U. Make it happen Nintendo.

@NintendoMaster What about the 3ds?

@undead_terror How about both?

Nintendo did one thing right, and that was F-Zero.
I don't understand why Nintendo won't even bring it back from the dead, it had alot going for it. I guess is one of those things we will never know.
It even had the best music in video games to date.

We need a new F-Zero on 3DS and Wii U.
This is the best futuristic racing game by far.

No F-Zero at this E3 seems very likely, Mario Kart and the 3D Mario game have top priority now and rightly so. But who knows... Wii U is still young

Wait I can't remember, is the GBA version on the 3DS? (I didn't download all of the Ambassador games, lol)

I loved the original F-Zero, so glad the 30 cent deal gave me more incentive to finally get it. The high-speed action, along with the adrenaline-rush soundtrack is awesome. I see no reason why the series can't exist alongside Mario Kart. They're different enough. I hope we see some revival on the Wii U.

You forgot about GP Legend! That was a fantastic GBA game. There was also Climax, but I don't think that one made it out of Japan.

checks eShop Hah! Yup, its on here. x3
Need to try and get back into this series.

I feel obliged to say that there was another GBA game, called GP Legend, although that was based on the anime and can't remember if Nintendo developed it.

Anyway...GX for me is the pinnacle of racing games. There has and never will be a better racing game. The speed was phenomenal and the music was top notch. Plus, if anyone ever says the Gamecube couldn't do graphics, just show them GX, they'll be speechless! Really hope Retro is working on a new one, 3DS or Wii U, I don't mind.

Yeah, I used to have GP Legend and it was really, really good! Also, after that, there was a Japanese-only entry called Climax that also had a track editor. These were both GBA releases.

Nintendo should at least make an HD port of F-zero GX(same graphics with HD textures) playable on the gamepad and with online mutliplayer.Eves as a downlodable game

Write all you want. GX was the best racer this world has ever known.

I want something like that on my wii u in high definition. Preferably not a port, but a full game, in that same vein, with at least thesame intensity.

I'd buy it for a hundred if they'd ask me.

It would be awesome if Retro Studios was working on F-Zero as the secret project

I liked the GBA versions and F-Zero X, but the original SNES classic was the best for me. Playing F-Zero alongside Super Mario Kart as they both went well together on the Mode 7 Graphics. Most of my time was probably spent time trialing Mute City 1 until i got a PAL 2'38"22 record. Definitely want to pick this up again and keen to see if Nintendo are producing any more new ones in future

Guys, the GBA got THREE F Zeros. The one you mentioned, F Zero GP and the Japan only F Zero Climax.

You guys completely neglected F-ZERO GP LEGEND which is superior to MAXIMUM VELOCITY in every way, oh and the Japan only one.

Sorry but whoever thinks Wipeout is superior to F-Zero X is nuts. FZX had 30 cars on the track at the same time, more tracks, and way more depth. Wipeout was fun for a night or two rental, F-Zero X is a game to own.

@NintendoMaster How about no? The Wii U needs games much more than the 3DS. There's a reason why I'm worried about SSB4's "dual versions"...if people can just get a 3DS to play the game, why would they get a Wii U just to play the same game with pretteir graphics?

@LordJumpMad Dude, it does, and I love that song.

I had played every other F-Zero games on Nintendo systems including F-Zero AX at the arcade but never got to play F-Zero 2.

A new F-Zero would convince me to buy a WiiU. Along with Pikmin 3 of course.

"Jon Wahlgren: I'm Jon, editor at large and pilot of the Blood Hawk."

Somebody in here HAS to love Blood Falcon's F-ZERO GX theme.

the same f-zero to play on both wii u and the 3ds! just like monster hunter ultimate, they should make that feature for f-zero too, i would be more then happy to buy them both on the same day! and my favourite f-zero is the original for the SNES, nostalgia and soundtrack is the reason why i prefer it to other entries =)

Love me some F-Zero. This inspired me to give Maxium Velocity another shot, and I think I get it. Probably will be playing this for a few days lol

And F-Zero GX was freaking hard.

As long as they make a full fledged HD F-Zero (with wifi!) for Wii U, my F-Zero life will be fulfilled. An F-Zero rendition would be nice. A port of F-Zero could definitely suffice.

I have thought long and hard on a F-Zero for the Wii U:

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2013/01/15/f-zero-wii-u-lets-dream-it/

That being said, in the meantime, they should port F-Zero GX to the 3DS and allow for StreetPass and an online multiplayer of the like of MK7 with as many players racing together as they can. (Can they even reach 30?!) That would calm down the fans, revive the almighty GX, and give them time for THE real F-Zero Wii U.

THERE ARE 2 F-ZERO GAMES ON THE GBA!!!

GX for me. Although I am admittedly terrible at racing games, I still enjoy them. The Speed was insane, and kept me racing to last place anyway.

Yes let's!

I don't think X or GX is better than each other. While I love my 'Cube dearly, when I get playing X or GX heavily, I sway in that direction. I think both plateau at amazing. I've been playing the original for 3 days, having bought a sealed copy for my now-functioning SNES I got a while ago. I'll see just how well it stacks up soon enough. While I can't say anything for FZ:MV, GP Legend is probably the weakest F-Zero entry. I bought it for 2.50$ at EB Games! That's basically "Here, we don't want it!". I could go on about it, but this isn't the place for that.

As long websites like this make a buzz about F-Zero, I'm sure Nintendo will pick up the message one day, if they haven't already. I doubt (but hope!) that Retro is working on F-Zero. (I'd say their making a Starfox entry.) I hope it's a Wii U game; they could do so much more for the franchise on the Wii U. Also, here's a little brim of hope: F-Zero's (Japanese) 25th is in 2015. #HYPE

Oh, and for the staff here: Stay up to date with the F-Zero AX code, as Ralf has been on it's case as of late. It's up to version 3 (and 3.1 for Pilot Points screen) as of today. Version 3 added the F-Zero AX logo on startup. It's crazy fun stuff!

Why didn't you guys talk about the tv show?

I just want to say that to me F-ZERO GX is the best! And I love it's soundtrack especially Dr.Stewart's theme, the pilot of Golden Fox!

F-Zero has always seemed mediocre at best to me. I've played the SNES and GBA ones and honestly they're just racing games stripped down to the core with some annoying design choices.

I did not buy a Megadrive and waited for the SNES, picked it up day one when it was released over here with Super Mario World and "F-Zero". I would only go to complete "Super Mario World" after I finished everything in "F-Zero". I bought the n64 when F-Zero X came out, and even if I had a PSX and loved Wipeout, "F-Zero X" once again came out on top, played it to completion (well, you can't really finish X Cup, right?). Finally on January 2004, even if I did own a PS2, I bought a GameCube with "F-Zero GX". I spent an entire month unlocking everything (yes, I did finish story mode!) and I still play it nowadays, my Wii remains assembled next to my Wii U because of it ( also "Rogue Leader"). I have stated here many times and I will say it again: "F-Zero GX" is my all time #1 favourite game, counting everything I've played in my life, from ZX Spectrum to the Wii U. I have been very sad at Nintendo for not puting at least a new entry on their latest consoles (DS, Wii, 3DS). I just bought a Game Boy Micro last week and am currently replaying "F-Zero GP Legend". I hope one day to import the third GBA F-Zero that only came out in Japan (the one with the track editor!) but more then anything, I hope Nintendo realises that we hunger, we need something, we want to know how is it possible to surpass "F-Zero GX"! Ninty, what are you waiting for?

@Rod64 there are in fact 3:
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity (2001)
F-Zero: GP Legend (2003)
F-Zero Climax (2004)

We should also mention "BS F-Zero" for SNES, it's a neat update on the original with new tracks and 4 new vehicles... and insanely hard.

F-Zero GX bombed hard, it's no wonder there hasn't been a new one. If they were to make one I agree with the reboot idea to give it more exposure. Also I hope they make story mode less ridiculously unbalanced in difficulty.

Also to the above 3DS Smash Bros. and Wii U Smash Bros. are completely separate games. I fail to see a negative there in having two new games.

I'm almost certain they'll return to it. What's the point of keeping it alive and treating it like an important IP in Smash Bros. and Nintendo Land if they're not going to give us another one?

Considering F-Zero skipped Wii, I am hoping it returns on Wii U. If it came on 3DS, I would pick it up as well.

I remember renting F-Zero GX and that's about it really... I'd love to return to the series with F-Zero U/3DS!

Play Maximum Velocity! It's great!

Wipeout is alright but it's no fzero! I find it too slow. I think the fzero inclusion in Nintendo land is promising as is the rerelease on vc but especially ninty land because the entire point of that game is to refamiliarize people to their franchises.

Are regular 3ds owners ever gonna see the ambassador games hit VC? I mean come on! Haha!

Not at this rate. I'd be happy enough with non-ambassador GBA games like Aria of Sorrow

@Geonjaha
They are meant to be futuristic racing game and the crash feature in the game is part of the series charm. F-Zero is more about survival than racing, even if you rank low on the first two courses, you could still rank higher later on as long as you know your trials and errors and master the way of the tracks.

@Geonjaha Don't ever base your opinion of F-Zero on the GBA games, nor should you think the SNES classic has aged very well. Your perspective is different now than it would of been then. Not to mention F-Zero is a show of a console's might - outdated hardware does no justice. Go pick up GX to know what F-Zero is about. This is coming from someone who's initial experience with F-Zero came from GP Legend. You won't regret it.

@Spark_Of_Spirit It "bombed"? Is that so? Software-to-Hardware tie ratios say otherwise: F-Zero X to N64 - 1:29, F-Zero GX to Gamecube 1:33. Probably not as profitable, but by no means a failure.

Fun Fact: GP Legend's S/H ratio is 1:509. Ouch.

@NintendoMaster: Agreed. Both it should be.

"Jon: I haven't been so excited about hidden content since I learned that GoldenEye had controller inputs for its cheat codes."

Wait, what!?!?

I can't say that I ever got into this series. A new F-Zero game on Wii U would be nice though.

@ThomasBW84 We'll forgive you, if you guys do an import version of F Zero Climax! XD

I want the next F-Zero to have a story mode for every racer. Most of them have pretty interesting backgrounds. GP Legend kinda did it but the "stories" were all very short and mostly uninteresting.

I just love the gamecube one! Would love to see them put that on Wiiu VC!

I don't really like racing games and I didn't really like the original F-Zero, but man oh jeez, F-Zero GX is easily in my top-5 favorite games of all time. It probably didn't hurt that I got to play AX in arcades in Japan while it was still brand new.

There was something that really just felt off about the Gamecube F-Zero compared to its great predecessors on the Super Nintendo and N64. That being said, it's been what, a good 10 years since the last F-Zero game?

I miss when Nintendo used to have their small series (like Star Fox, F-Zero, Pilotwings, Wave Race, 1080 Snowboarding, their own MLB games) shine right alongside their big ones

I've never understood why GX is praised so highly over X and as the pinnacle of the series. Yes it's (still) beautiful and yes it's blisteringly fast but it lacks the feel of the original and N64 classic. It's too loose in control, the music unmemorable (compared to the first two) and the tracks just a little - whisper it - boring. Don't get me wrong it's a good game but its nothing compared to X which is still the best racing game ever made. If the series comes back I hope they look at the N64 as a starting point and not the Cube. Plus we need Death Race back! And a version of the next Mario Kart's Rainbow Road! And the track and vehicle editor!

Oh and how anyone could favour wipEout I do not know. Good games but they get real boring if you play longer than an hour whereas the three console F-Zero titles you can play endlessly.

I won't mention the handheld comment as enough people have already done so...
In relation to the home console releases, in my eyes they've gotten better with every iteration. F-Zero GX is one of the greatest racers of all time, and in relation to why there hasn't been another version since, as someone also commented, I'm not quite sure how they could make it better. Sega's AV team blew the barrier sky high with their attention to detail and brilliance. Sure, the story mode is a little impossible at times, but this isn't a game for wimps and whiners heh.

X is the best.

F-Zero is just one of those series I've never been able to get into, no matter how much I've tried. I respect the craftsmanship, the visual aesthetics and the love fans have for it, but the speed is just too much for me. GX actually gave me motion sickness on more than one occasion.

F-Zero X is my favourite, and I love the snes title. Strangely, I never got on with GX, everyone seems to love that one. A great technical achievement, but it paled in comparison to X, for me anyway. I'm thinking I should give it another try.

I liked GP Legend as well. I don't think many people are interested in that one!

What about "F-Zero GP Legend" for the GBA? Its the 2nd F-Zero on GBA and is actually the newest F-Zero to date. How did you miss this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero:GP_Legend(video_game)

@nathanbjohnson The Japanese only "F-Zereo Climax" for GBA is the latest release of the series:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero_Climax

You forgot to mention F-Zero GP Legend and Climax. GP Legend is my favourite after GX which is easily the best one in the series.

Also, if there´s ever going to be a new F-Zero game on WiiU I would be perfectly happy if they called it F-Zero UX.

I started a project on Lego Cuusoo to get Lego F-Zero made but it's not getting many supporters.

Haven't finished reading but already some HUGE factual errors... There are 6 main series entries, not four. (we could say 8 if we include AX and BSFFZ2).

Also the statement "We should probably mention F-Zero Maximum Velocity, the only handheld entry to date."

Is entirely false... There are 3 handheld entries... Max Velocity, GP Legend, and Climax...

Anyways, I think F-Zero needs to come back. The series was a regular million seller for Nintendo back in its prime. The audience is there if they keep a razor-sharp focus on futuristic high speed racing.

But I do agree it will be tough to top GX. Maybe its best to do an HD remake with 30 player online...

But I think there is much room for new ideas: squad-based team-racing, battle racing, one-lap races, in-depth story modes, etc.

I mean, if Nintendo can churn out a new Mario Kart every console gen, surely they can make a new F-Zero?

Also for those commenting on the GX soundtrack... iirc it was the largest soundtrack in a Nintendo game until Brawl showed up. The depth and brevity to it is absolutely insane. Just listen to the Pilot Profile tracks alone and you'd think they were all from completely different games.

F-Zero GX is godly. Make another....now.

i loved F-Zero GX and X but GX hold me longer for the customisabel ship's id love to see custom charicters or mabe Mii's being added. So if ther was to be Online you can be different from the other 29 players lol.

GX is such a fantastic game. I'll never tire of landing a side attack just right and sending a CPU to his or her doom.

30 player online would be such great carnage. You wouldn't necessarily need to fill all slots with players either, if it was a problem logistically speaking. Some slots could be filled with AI opponents; perhaps their difficulty could be determined by some sort of algorithm that takes the skill levels of the individual players into account. I'm reaching here, but I think if it were advertised well, a new entry in the series could sell enough to make it worth their while.