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Bayonetta 2 And The Wonderful 101 To Stay Wii U Exclusive

Posted by Andy Green

Platinum Games says the two games will be sticking around

There's been a lot of talk this week about Wii U exclusives that become multi-platform titles after a while. Team Ninja confirmed earlier in the week that Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge, once a Wii U exclusive, would soon be available on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Then a few days later Ubisoft made the unpopular announcement that Rayman Legends would be delayed to a September launch due to the game now being released on multiple platforms.

Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot said in a recent interview that he felt "big games" would be less likely to be exclusively tied to one console in the future, and that most exclusive content will most likely be found in the online stores, such as Nintendo's eShop, Sony's PSN Store and Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade.

However in a week of games jumping ship, there was one piece of good news as one developer has come forward to declare that two if its games would be staying Wii U exclusive. Video game designer at Platinum Games, Hideki Kamiya, has revealed that both Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101 will be, and always will be, Wii U exclusives.

In a tweet, translated by NeoGAF, Kamiya said:

We're a development company...Nintendo gives us money, we make Bayonetta 2 and W101, and they sell it...So if Nintendo says 'We're putting Bayonetta 2 on PS360' it'll come out on those platforms...So ask Nintendo about it...

So it's not all been bad news regarding the Wii U exclusives this week, at least we know of two exclusives that will be staying put - unless Nintendo randomly decide to start publishing on other systems.

Are you pleased to hear Platinum Games will be keeping Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101 on Wii U? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below.

[via neogaf.com, twitter.com, gonintendo.com]

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DreamyViridi

#3

DreamyViridi said:

Well, it's nice to see two big games won't be going AWOL on Nintendo, for now at least. PS360 fanboys will continue making pointless death threats about Bayonetta 2.

OverturePT

#4

OverturePT said:

@MrSRArter Mass Effect was bought by EA which then did whatever they wanted with the franchise. So, unless Nintendo sells these IP's... these titles won't be on another console. It's a no brainer for a publisher like EA to publish the games on other consoles, but for Nintendo, they need this type of games to eventually sell more consoles, so I'd say it not probable at all that they would sell it...

cornishlee

#5

cornishlee said:

@MrSRArter
Mass Effect is a Bioware IP. That made it exclusive to Microsoft while they owned Bioware but EA bought the IP with the developer, thus allowing them to release it on different platforms. This is a completely different situation with Platinum working as a second-party developer.

To sum up:

  • Bioware were a first-party studio that became third-party and took some of their IP with them. (For a Nintendo example see Rare and Banjo Kazooie).
  • Platinum are an independent studio that has their projects funded by external publishers, in this case Nintendo. Second-party developers can make deals to see their IPs end up with various publishers (as evidenced with Bayonetta) but the publisher who funded the work will have ultimate control over where a specific game is published. In other words, Nintendo own Bayonetta 2 but they do not own the rights to other Bayonetta games.
Farmboy74

#6

Farmboy74 said:

Good stuff, let's just now get these two games out ASAP, and show the gaming world what the Wii U can do

Highwinter

#8

Highwinter said:

@cornishlee That's not exactly right. Microsoft never owned Bioware, they simply published Mass Effect, which is exactly what Nintendo are doing in this situation. It's also exactly what happened with Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 on the Xbox. Those games were published by Microsoft but the developers eventually worked around that detail by releasing "different" versions of the games on the PS3.

It could be years or it might not ever happen, but these games COULD still make it to other platforms without Nintendo's involvement.

OverturePT

#9

OverturePT said:

Just don't forget that Nintendo is paying to have this developed, it's not as simple as just being the publisher. Platinum could make an extended edition and get another publisher for PS360 if they had funded the entire game and only had Nintendo publish it. I doubt it is as easy when Nintendo paid to have it developed... adding a new chapter probably isn't enough for this game to be able to be released under a new name on another console, but it is possible. The thing is, it won't be Bayonetta 2, it would have to be almost a new game and it would take a while + more money from Platinum. Let's see how it goes.

C7_

#11

C7_ said:

I like how they were asked enough to get a response because of the legends ordeal. Again, I don't think the problem is exclusivity, it's that it was a really solid-looking launch window title due next month that now the people who were excited for it and put money down have to wait another half a year for it to none of their benefit. If they released the WiiU version on time and then released ports on other consoles, none of this controversy would've happened. Now it's just a blatant cash grab.

BATRA

#12

BATRA said:

that sounds good
i hope to see frogger for the wii u they have the rights to the game

Weavius

#14

Weavius said:

I'm looking forward to Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101. These were two of the games that convinced me to buy a Wii U. I'm glad they're staying exclusive.

Geonjaha

#15

Geonjaha said:

To be honest no one should ever have feared this would be a problem seeing as it's actually Nintendo publishing the games...

astroshamu

#16

astroshamu said:

I hope ubisoft keeps the zombiu franchise on wii u, either way though, we would have the superior version

MrGawain

#17

MrGawain said:

Been intrigued by both these games-Now they seem as must buy with the current farce with other 3rd party games.

Jaco

#18

Jaco said:

I think Team Ninja did it right, I don't mind how they handled the situation of releasing it after WiiU. I don't like how Ubisoft delayed their product just to put it on the other systems. I don't mind them putting it on the other systems its just when you delay a pretty much completed game to do it is when it pisses me off

hydeks

#20

hydeks said:

this is a slightly different situation than Rayman Legends :P Rayman Legends is developed and published by ubisoft, W101 and Bayonetta 2 are developed by Platinum and being published by nintendo, so of course their gonna be exclusive.

I think the Wii U owners are upset cause there hasn't been enough coming to this system, and it's a brand new system! The problem is there's no games really coming that are original, and all the games coming people want, will be coming out like in the fall. I want a Wii U, honestly I do, but it's not a smart thing to get one until later, and until after Feb 20th when we get to see what Sony brings, who knows, maybe Wii U is alot more next gen than most think :P

gsnap

#21

gsnap said:

I assume Guillemot's quote referred to big 3rd party games? Honestly, I don't care much for the idea of all big games being multiplatform. What's the point of having 3 console then? Or the PC? I think Nintendo thinks this way too. Look at how hard their trying to get tons of exclusives (1st and 3rd party). I hope Nintendo continues to secure 3rd party exclusives throughout the Wii U's lifespan. Or at least work with 3rd party devs to bring unique experiences. Games like W101, Bayo2, Shin Megami X Fire Emblem, Monolith's new game. Add to that all of Nintendo's 1st party games. That's a ton of good looking games that you can only get on one system, making it a system worth owning. They give me reasons to choose that console over another. So I can't really agree with Guillemot. Exclusives are going to become even more important in the future. Sony, Micro, and Nintendo are going to realize that their "features" aren't enough to get people to choose one console over the other, and that only having the best exclusives will do that.

seronja

#23

seronja said:

well if the only fund comes from Nintendo then keep it exclusive! it wouldn't make any sense to announce it only for wii u, and then after some time, you announce it on other platform like rayman legends that's just a bad buisness strategy IMO

rjejr

#24

rjejr said:

I can't say I read 600 comments the other day but what I read exclusivity is not that big of a deal, making people wait 7 months to get a finished game is a big deal. I don't care what platform Platinum Games wants to put it's games on as long as I can play them when they are finished. And plenty of games get delayed - I've been waiting 3 years for Last Guardian - but most games don't get delayed 7 months with only 3 weeks to go before their release date.

There probably would have only been 100 replies the other day if Ubisoft would have announced Rayman Legends was coming to PS3/Xbox360 in Sept. as long as they kept the Wii U release date in a few weeks. .

arrmixer

#25

arrmixer said:

though this is a little off topic.. Eventhough both Ninja Gaiden and Legends ending up having the same results...

I believe their reasons to become multiplatfom are on the opposite spectrum...

Since Zombie U didn't get great reviews/and maybe sales from the begining thus preventing from the franchise porting for the moment, Ubisoft decided to cancel the Rayman release and instead release the game simultaneously to all three consoles.....

On the other hand, the ninja gaiden release had the opposite effect... decent reviews/maybe sales thus inticing tean ninja to re-release another version to the other two consoles...

Either way you slice it... these companies are definitely trying to gain as much profit as possible....

DrSlump

#26

DrSlump said:

So, if we'll see these games on other platform, the one to blame is Nintendo. And if this will happen, i will boycot Nintendo forever.

OdnetninAges

#27

OdnetninAges said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd imagine this was obvious, considering they are being published by Nintendo.

Ubisoft is a 3rd Party, so It's in a different situation.

Peach64

#28

Peach64 said:

People need to realise that Nintendo publishing a game does not mean anything. Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3 and Scribblenauts on Wii U, but they're not exclusive.

What makes these Platinum titles different is that Nintendo is partly funding them, and in the case of Wonderful 101, they co-own the IP, so THAT'S why they'll stay exclusive.

Personally, I have no interest in Bayonetta 2, didn't enjoy the first one at all, but I'm VERY excited about Wonderful 101. When I do pick up a Wii U, it will be in the initial bunch of games I get too, unless the reviews really suck.

Moshugan

#31

Moshugan said:

@KLer I guess the term is Second Party? Like Rare before and Retro now.
Platinum Games on the other hand is independent of Nintendo.

letsplay

#32

letsplay said:

Watching youtube vides of The Wonderful 101. I cant wait to get this game. WOW!

Emaan

#33

Emaan said:

:hugs Platinum Games:

Although, Nintendo was publishing both games, so I see no reason why they wouldn't remain Wii U exclusive. Nonetheless, good news.

Oregano

#34

Oregano said:

The Wonderful 101 is a Nintendo IP so that was obvious. Bayonetta 2 could theoretically go multiplatform because we don't know all the terms of the contract but from what both Platinum and Sega have said it's all up to Nintendo.

Einherjar

#38

Einherjar said:

As far as i understand it, Bayonetts 2 is and will be nintendo bound. The fist one was funded by sega, so if they had their own console at the time, it would have been bound to that system. Like many said before, its the same as with, say, Banjo Kazooie. Thats why Banjo wasnt included in the Diddy Kong Racing DS remake, since the rights to the series shiftet to Microsoft, who the funded the franchise and held the rights to its exclusivnes.

XD375

#40

XD375 said:

@Moshugan Rare before was second-party, but Retro is first-party. Rare is first-party now too - to Microsoft.

Rare (then) - 49% Nintendo
Retro - 100% Nintendo
Rare (now) - 100% Microsoft

CaptainAmerica5

#44

CaptainAmerica5 said:

@Moshugan No, the term is first party for both Retro and Monolith Soft. Rare was only ever 49% owned by Nintendo, but they made games exclusively for Nintendo consoles, hence second party. The fact that Monolith and Retro are 100% owned makes them first party, as much so as EAD Tokyo

Austroid

#45

Austroid said:

Nice! These will likely get people's attention that are skeptical about Wii U.

Looking forward to Wonderful 101!

MasterGraveheart

#46

MasterGraveheart said:

I asked Nintendo about these games being released on the PlayStation Vita. I, uh, ended up being thrown out of Reggie's office... into a sewer... leading into the Pacific Ocean... after some sharks just got released... and I smelled like smelt.

cornishlee

#49

cornishlee said:

@Moshugan
First Party:

  • Retro Studios
  • Monolith Soft
  • Rare (now)

Second party:

  • Platinum
  • Rare before Microsoft purchased Nintendo's stake

If a hardware manufacturer owns a game developer they are first party. If a non-hardware manufacturing games publisher owns a game developer they are third party. If a game developer is independently owned but have their games published by someone else they are a second party developer. Hope that makes sense.

SanderEvers

#50

SanderEvers said:

@AltDotNerd It can if for one stupid reason Nintendo decides to release it on other consoles as well :p

This is just as likely as we're going to see HALO on the Wii U.

LittleIrves

#51

LittleIrves said:

"Are you pleased to hear Platinum Games will be keeping Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101 on Wii U?" Kind of a silly question... but I'll bite: YES SIR. The U needs all the help it can get, and two anticipated games unavailable anywhere is is a start.

SpaceApe

#52

SpaceApe said:

Do the masses really care about Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 ? I think not...

Lopezdm

#55

Lopezdm said:

Well it looks as though Nintendo just lost Ninja Gaiden as well . It will be out on PS3 and xbox in April.

BayonettaLuver

#61

BayonettaLuver said:

I want smash something I hate Nintendo....Its been bought out they make old games ! Not amazing new ones! I wish Nintendo would let it come out for Ps3 hope they change their mind I hate Wii U right now I really freaking hate it wish I could buy one then throw it on a highway and watch it get hit by cars then take all the tiny pieces back to Nintendo and leave it on their steps :'(

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