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User Created Mario Stages Are A Possibility In The Future

Posted by Orla Madden

Could add a new dimension to the series

In a recent interview with GamesTM magazine, director of New Super Mario Bros. U Masataka Takemoto was asked if the possibility of level editing would find its way onto future Mario titles:

I think the Coin Edit feature in Coin Battle is a step closer to that. There is a possibility of this happening in the future, but there’s no use just blindly making that feature available. We would need to carefully think about how to make such a system work. The important thing is that it has to be something that is uniquely Nintendo. Where a beginner can easily make something and have a good time, and simultaneously, someone who is really into Mario can delve into it deeper and make something more complex. So that is a challenge we will need to tackle in the future.

In the latest helping of Mario on the Wii U, coin placement in Coin Battle Mode is as far as assembling your own level goes. Could a level editor feature become essential for a Mario title? We'd love the idea of creating our own levels to share with readers down the road, as well as delving into your creations. Let us know what you think.

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XCWarrior

#2

XCWarrior said:

Having finally tried a LBP2 level this week, this would be great to see in Mario. hope it happens.

R-L-A-George

#3

R-L-A-George said:

I'd love to see maybe a game reminiscent of the 8-Bit and 16-bit Mario games where you can make your own levels. :)

edhe

#4

edhe said:

I highly doubt the level creator is going to be as sophisticated as LittleBigPlanet's.

LBP's level creator has a very impressive logic system.

If Nintendo were to pinch this idea from LittleBigPlanet, I'd go out and buy NSMBU without question.

WiiLovePeace

#5

WiiLovePeace said:

Oh man I'd love to have a level editor in NSMBU, make it happen Nintendo! I'd pay extra for it if I had to :D

zoroarkrules25

#6

zoroarkrules25 said:

I play super mario flash 2 so much online where you can make your own levels so this would be awesome to see.

DreamyViridi

#7

DreamyViridi said:

I would love a Mario level editor from Nintendo. I've constantly played fan-made Mario editors whenever I was feeling creative; Does anyone know/remember Super Mario Bros X? Its level (and map) editor was very in-depth.

Norfair

#8

Norfair said:

A level editor is a must for me, but it needs to be something that holds back nothing, like the Super Meat Boy Level Editor. A user friendly version of the level editor the game was created with.

KAHN

#9

KAHN said:

i wouldn't make my own because i lack that kind of creativity, but i'd certainly download everyone else's!

Mk_II

#11

Mk_II said:

It would really revitalize the franchise but he's right: it has to be done properly Nintendo-ish.

Hokori

#12

Hokori said:

IDK if I'd get into it... The other Nintendo series that you can make your own levels I'm not that good at (SSBB, MvDK, WW DIY, ExciteBike, Picross)

KingDunsparce

#15

KingDunsparce said:

I loved using a Mario level editor that I found with Game Maker. I can't remember the name though.

Geonjaha

#16

Geonjaha said:

Really Nintendo? Changing the levels yourself was pretty much the only thing you were doing between NSMB games. I suppose I'm all for it - but for god sake make something new and drop the NSMB label.

NintyMan

#17

NintyMan said:

A Mario level editor is a likely feature in the future, but the question is on how big of a scale it would be. Would they go all-out?

themariobloggie

#19

themariobloggie said:

HOLY BUTTS I've always wanted to make levels for a Mario game without using mods or programs, but an actual level creator in-game.

Geonjaha

#20

Geonjaha said:

@LZBirdboi - I was referring to the fact that Nintendo continue to make games in the NSMB series which are all pretty much identical. There has never been this much repetition in a series of Mario games ever. SMB 1/2/3 were all unique, Super Mario 3D Land was a one off, and all other Mario games have never been milked past a single sequel (eg. SMG games).

SammyOfMobius

#21

SammyOfMobius said:

New Super Mario Bros. 3 anyone? If they make a 3, they need to change things up. Such as: new environments, new characters, new twists (such as the sphere walking in Galaxy, or FLUDD in Sunshine, Yoshi in SMW, etc.), and most iportantly: new storyline and enemies!

ShadJV

#23

ShadJV said:

I wonder if they're worried a level editor will make it hard for them to easily milk the series again. Then again, it would simply require Nintendo to do more than throw in a couple new powerups, make new levels, and call it a game. Coin Rush, Boost Rush, and Challenge levels are steps in the right direction. They add some new concepts to a tired series. But they are not full games, just tacked on, and some people aren't even trying them because they aren't the main game.

It's unlikely Nintendo will drastically change the formula as long as the previous titles are selling. This is one of Nintendo's safest forms of income. The innovation they try on other franchises result in massive fluctuations of sales. The NSMB series is easy money and I understand why they're hesitant to mess with it, they need some lower risk releases.

All in all, a full level editor would be great, but Nintendo adds so little new ideas per title that I think they may see such a feature as damaging to their future sales. They would require to innovate one of the very few series that they don't want to mess with. It's like finding a vein of gold; it's better for them to mine as much gold out of there as they can before they start spending money looking for other veins.

spoonshiro

#24

spoonshiro said:

They should just make a whole game revolved around level building. Like Little Big Planet but without the staggering mediocrity.

nobyer

#25

nobyer said:

march of the minis did it. I don't know where my coat is. I want more levels.

MarioIdent

#27

MarioIdent said:

I suppose this will be a good idea, as people who have hacked the Wii and DS have been able to make custom levels via third-party level designers, and I've seen some of them, and most of them do actually seem quite good, so if this were to become a feature in Mario, I'm sure we'll be seeing some pretty creative levels!! (I'm in no way telling you to hack your DS/Wii)

DerpSandwich

#28

DerpSandwich said:

I love Nintendo, and I love Mario, but I don't think it will happen because it would basically destroy the need to ever buy another game. The story is always the same, so apart from new suits and enemies the levels are the primary things that change, and if you give us the ability to make our own then new titles become worth very little.

This is actually the reason I don't buy the NSMB games; they come at full retail price despite the fact that they can probably be assembled using a basic level editor in a matter of months, or even weeks with a large enough team. That's why the games always take up so little space on a disk or hard drive; there's not much to them.

So yeah, I don't think it will happen unless they really start to up their game when making NSMB titles.

SirQuincealot

#30

SirQuincealot said:

maybe a level editor could be released on the eshop that lets you play the levels on your 3ds or wii u

SirQuincealot

#31

SirQuincealot said:

@DerpSandwich new power ups, new enemies, new terrain, new graphics engine, better online gameplay, there are plenty of reasons to get a new mario even with the level editor

sinalefa

#32

sinalefa said:

It could be interesting. In fact this could only enrich Mario games as fans would show new, fresh takes and ideas that the Mario team can then "borrow" and improve upon.

I remember how in Galaxy 2 the main programmer made a tool so everyone on the team, from musicians to other programmers, could create their own galaxies, which gave that game a lot of new and interesting ideas.

And the gamepad would be awesome to add parts of levels with the touch of a stylus. I can even see a player making the level on the gamepad and a second player "test driving" it with a wiimote.

UnseatingKDawg

#33

UnseatingKDawg said:

Not a bad idea. You could re-make the best levels from older games with the NSMBU graphical style, physics, and abilities. You could even use level designs from other game series, like Kid Icarus. I say this because I don't have too much creativity...

Blaze

#34

Blaze said:

So Takamoto' s pretty much saying the chances of us getting a level editor are slim, and even if it does happen, it'll probably be something very restricted? :( If it were to happen though, I may consider getting NSMBU.

Zombie_Barioth

#36

Zombie_Barioth said:

Sounds like an interesting idea to say the least. As long as it isn't as limited as the one in brawl (which I hope gets fixed in SSB4, if it returns) then it should turn out well.

Bazly

#37

Bazly said:

Everyone and their dog knows how I feel about level editors.

EVERY GAME MUST HAVE ONE. THIS WOULD BE AMAZING. YES YES YES!

Sun

#39

Sun said:

As an extra is good, but games need good level design. NSMB2 was disappointment but now I want to give NSMBU a chance.

Bass_X0

#40

Bass_X0 said:

I was referring to the fact that Nintendo continue to make games in the NSMB series which are all pretty much identical.

Its fine as long as it remains one per console. Even Nintendo admitted they won't be releasing more NSMB games in the near future. They got the game out of their system on the Wii U by doing it early. Besides, I'm sure if you were to compare DS and Wii U NSMB side by side, there would be many differences. I've not played the Wii U version though.

I think a New Super Mario Bros. Level Creator for the Wii U would be pretty awesome though.

I don't think it will happen because it would basically destroy the need to ever buy another game.
Is that necessarily a bad thing though? Do you want to keep buying New Super Mario Bros. games? Personally, other than a level creator, I'd rather they stop doing 2D games and concentrate on making sequels to 3D Land, Galaxy and Sunshine. Or other 2D games that aren't Mario. Yoshi's Island 2 for example.

DerpSandwich

#42

DerpSandwich said:

@Bass_X0

Haha, good point. Yeah, I'm really not a fan of the games and would also prefer if they would just move onto the next thing already.

DerpSandwich

#43

DerpSandwich said:

@SirQuincealot

If they make drastic changes/improvements, then there's definitely a reason to buy new titles. The problem is that they've proven that they're simply not interested in any of that. NSMBU was a step in the right direction, but this fourth installment of the series isn't much better than the first.

Gioku

#44

Gioku said:

That's what I had Super Mario Bros. X for. I don't know if Nintendo will make a level editor that's quite as powerful as that one, though.

MarioKenny1992

#45

MarioKenny1992 said:

@Bass_X0 as much as I love the NSMB games, yeah, I would rather have Nintendo make something brand new with Mario, like a spiritual sequel to Super Mario 64 with its open world levels. as for a level creator, it certainly sounds like a nice idea

ramstrong

#46

ramstrong said:

Mini Mario March Again has good level editor. I enjoyed doing them. Distribution is pretty bad, though. I don't mind a redo with FC distribution system.

Also, Petit Computer can do Mario games easy! Well, hardware-wise. You need to know how to program a computer in order to use it. ;)

Boidoh

#47

Boidoh said:

It's would need reviewing the levels because what if someone uses brick blocks to curse or make the shape of a... You know. This would be awesome if it came true though, I would remake all the sunshine levels in 2D :D

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