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Nintendo Is Not Working On Fix For Wii U's Slow OS

Posted by Orla Madden

We stand corrected

We reported yesterday that Nintendo President Satoru Iwata had apologised for the long loading times when switching between applications on the Wii U. He went on to say that a solution was in the works, but no time-frame was given.

That's great, Nintendo took responsibility for this minor hiccup; we all accepted the apology. But now that's all gone down the drain, as after the news got out about the presumed solution to the sluggish operating system, the PR folk over at Nintendo got in touch with Engadget to rectify this announcement. Iwata actually stated that an update is in development for Dragon Quest X, not the Wii U OS.

You can watch the Chotto Nintendo Direct broadcast where Iwata discusses new information on Dragon Quest X below:

[via engadget.com]

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User Comments (73)

OracleOfTruth

#1

OracleOfTruth said:

Oh... well maybe they'll still do something about the Wii U OS later. I like to be optimistic.

SMEXIZELDAMAN

#5

SMEXIZELDAMAN said:

OMG. Well the slow load times are a little painful. Lick a needle prick. Or something. I hope they fix them soon :( For a $300 HD next gen console things should be a little faster.

edhe

#6

edhe said:

Well maybe they ought to do something about the loading times for the Wii U operating system anyway.

For all the processing power apparently dedicated to the OS, it's unacceptable how slow it actually is to switch applications and launch games.

Stuffgamer1

#7

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Hokori: The ones when switching between applications on the Wii U, of course. Don't tell me you haven't noticed it take half a minute to load up the chat app...unless you haven't used it, of course.

Juampi

#8

Juampi said:

This doesn't mean they aren't working on a fix. It just means we don't know for sure whether they actually are.

Xilef

#9

Xilef said:

Well, i can live with the load times a bit longer. Getting used to them.

Gearborn

#10

Gearborn said:

I haven't cared much about the slow menus until now. But now that Nintendo TVii is out, once I start using that application, the slow load times may be a big enough barrier to use the service at all since waiting 10-20 seconds to pull up Nintendo TVii isn't going to be worth it even with all it's extra features.

nechestriah

#14

nechestriah said:

@Hokori Do you not notice the absurd amount of time it takes to load between games/other applications in the OS? Things as simple as opening Miiverse can take up to 30 seconds, which IMO is FAR too long to wait. These things should be much snappier, and I hope Nintendo is working on a fix because it really makes using those features hard to justify when you have to wait so long for them to open.

Vladex

#15

Vladex said:

You might want to double-check the source: Engadget didn't say that Nintendo isn't working on an update at all, just that the December release-date was referring to the Dragon Quest X update. At least, that's how I read it. I could be wrong, but I find it difficult to believe that Mr. Iwata would bring up the slow OS, let alone apologize, if Nintendo had absolutely no plans to address it. That's what I'm hoping anyway...

KaiserGX

#16

KaiserGX said:

My Miiverse doesn't take 30 seconds... I don't even notice it. Does eveyone stare at the clock while something loads? The only thing I do notice is games loading at the start.

TrueWiiMaster

#18

TrueWiiMaster said:

While the load times could, and should, be better, I have yet to experience the ridiculous load times some people have reported. I wish they'd improve them, but I'm not all that dissatisfied as it is.

KaiserGX

#19

KaiserGX said:

Well don't count them. Things in life would be better if we didn't complain about such things, that often end up looking worse, doing so.

Also what TrustWiiUMister said.

Moshugan

#20

Moshugan said:

The slow-ish loading times don't bother me most of the time.
But they could be faster. I'd like switching between apps to be seamless.
It's especially awkward when you're playing with a friend. Then you can't help but notice how long it takes to wait.

Guitardude7

#21

Guitardude7 said:

.......is waiting less than a minute really THAT much of a problem? Seriously, 20-30 seconds is not that big of a deal. Go take a piss while you're waiting! Answer a text! Pet a Dog! Jesus some people are just so freaking fickle with the most minor issues.....

Geonjaha

#23

Geonjaha said:

Well that's unfortunate, but to be honest the news surprised me in the first place. Hopefully we get some updates in the future to reduce how bad the problem is. Also; it doesn't matter how insignificant 20-30 seconds is in the grand scheme of things - gaming is a market, and in this day and age in this market those kind of load times are lengthy and unacceptable. Nintendo don't need fanboys defending their products...

pntjr

#24

pntjr said:

Well I'm getting my Wii U in five days........... so when I get it the OS will be as slow as FAWK.... well that's good holiday news.

AVahne

#26

AVahne said:

@Hokori
iPad must be incredibly slow then. Load times on Wii U aren't TERRIBLE, but they're still a bit too slow. At the very least, Nintendo needs to make the load times for settings, MiiVerse, Notifications, Wii U Chat, Friends List, and eShop much shorter.

Bankai

#28

Bankai said:

@Koto There is almost no load time with the iPad. At all. Tap the icon at the program instantly loads.

WaLzgiStaff

#31

WaLzgi said:

At least they're not as bad as PS1 loading times :P

I barely notice or care at all :)

grimbldoo

#32

grimbldoo said:

They should start releasing consoles with 5 min load times, this microwave generation is quite whiny.

DarkNinja9

#33

DarkNinja9 said:

well talk about a downer :( they should still try to fix it or come up with a update later

mastersworddude

#35

mastersworddude said:

Doubt they would bother to fix it anyway.
The lighter apps are HTML-based. In those instances, starting up a web renderer every single time is incredibly inefficient.
If they wanted to do it like that, they should have made the entire OS and every app HTML-based, then use a single web renderer to view it all.
Switching apps would take less than a second if they did so.
They'd have to rework the thing, the way they load apps needs to change, and any apps that are native would need to be rewritten in HTML.

@PokeTune, What do you expect? NLife has quite a lot of Nintendrones that defend everything Nintendo does.

Ren

#36

Ren said:

There is no defending this. And if you're a big Nintendo fan this is not the place to bring up Apple, because like it or not that stuff loads lighting fast; those i-devices are arguably the reason we have all become so accustomed to instant load times.

Void

#37

Void said:

I don't really notice the loading times that much, maybe it's because I don't own a smartphone.

SCAR392

#39

SCAR392 said:

I don't even get slow load times at all in the first place, so they can make it better if they want... I get a long Wii U menu boot every once in a while, but Wii U is pretty fast regardless for all it can do. I think I just have good internet connection, because none of the updates I've had have taken very long, apps load fast, just fast overall. Faster download times for eShop would be cool though. It takes anywhere from 2-4 hours for a 7GB game to ext. HDD... I can only imagine waiting for Tekken to dl, which I plan on getting eventually...

Kage_88

#40

Kage_88 said:

Meh, I'm not too angered about this. The slow load times were annoying at first, but I've gotten used to them.

I'm sure system updates in the future will fix such issues.

Metal_Slugger

#41

Metal_Slugger said:

I don't know my exact load times but they are very long. Another annoyance I noticed was if there is a disc in your drive it will spin the entire time its in there when the wiiu is on. My wii would shut spinning down if I went into any app. I can here it spinning all the time. Not good for wear and tear.

Zombie_Barioth

#42

Zombie_Barioth said:

The people defending the load times and complaining about people complaining about them need to keep something in mind, its not the load times themselves thats the problem but the frequency at which they occur.

long load times here or there isn't a problem after all just look at the PS1 and PS2 but those load times add up and can even discourage people from using the Wii U's features. Why should I bother waiting for an app on Wii U when I can just use another device that does the same thing but boots up almost instantly?

Einherjar

#44

Einherjar said:

I also complained about the absurdly long loadtimes, but since the latest update (the second one) it seams to be gone.
And its stupid to think that nintendo isnt working on a fix. It wont be out tomorrow, but it will come

luminalace

#45

luminalace said:

Exactly...everyone is missing point. There was a translation error and Nintendo had actually said they were working on a patch for Dragon Quest X. This does not mean they are/ aren't working on speeding up the menu. Considering the Wii was constantly updated to improve performance, I think it's a given that Nintendo will always try to improve the user experience on Wii U.

This is so silly because a translation error led to another negative piece about Nintendo.

We need some positive stuff for a change..it's like every week there is some bad news. NL How about you post how youtube is working again? You guys posted that Youtube stopped working...now that it's working again, we get no new article.

mastersworddude

#46

mastersworddude said:

@luminalace
Negative articles will stop once Nintendo stops making questionable decisions. (And I don't see how the Youtube thing is a shot at Nintendo, it was Google's fault in the first place.)
If you think Nintendo Life is out to bash Nintendo, I wonder what you think about most general gaming sites.

Sean_Aaron

#47

Sean_Aaron said:

The load times aren't a game breaker for me, but like others have said they are noticeable and they should be addressed.

Yes early CD-ROM based systems were slower, but I think if you had to look at a static image for 20 seconds every time you played a DVD you'd wonder what was happening. This is not an unreasonable complaint.

adrenochrome

#49

adrenochrome said:

it's undeniable that navigation inside Wii-U menus/apps is too slow :((
loading a disc based game is faster
it's undeniable too that Nintendo can do better, let's hope they will address this point in next update

UnseatingKDawg

#51

UnseatingKDawg said:

OK, I don't have a Wii U. But I will ask this: Are these load times just as bad as, say, Sonic '06? If it's less time than those, I don't see too much of a problem.

adrenochrome

#52

adrenochrome said:

@ UnseatingKDawg
it's not a matter of game playing, look at this scenario :
going to settings -> wait 30sec, going back to main menu -> wait 30sec, launch browser -> wait 30sec, going back to main menu -> wait 30sec, going to eshop -> wait 30sec, going back to main menu -> wait 30sec

what would you say if you had to wait 30sec on your laptop before going to settings or before launching a web browser ?
it sound evident that the wii-u can do better :)

when you know exactly what you want to do, you can reduce the amount of 30sec waits, but when exploring everything -eg : the first time you unbox your wiiu- some could be easily shocked

Odnetnin

#53

Odnetnin said:

Hokori wrote:

@Ren I blame iPads for how lazy people are these days

Dang, I guess my iPad is the source of all my problems. I should probably burn it.

WindWakerLink

#54

WindWakerLink said:

The load times aren't "that" bad. But I feel like it punishes me if I want to keep going back-&-forth between things sometimes. (Chuckles) But the only thing I worry about the load times is "if it will freeze on me" because that's already happened to me before. >_>

Hokori

#55

Hokori said:

@DarkKnight I didn't mean it like that, I'm saying people are so impatient theses days, that's probably why people bring there iPads everywhere so they can play something while waiting 5 min for there food to come out or when they wait in line some place

Dauntless

#56

Dauntless said:

Somehow I'm not surprised. They always manage to screw something up badly. Or maybe the WiiU isn't powerful enough to run its own OS. Its a shame.

SCAR392

#57

SCAR392 said:

Maybe your Wii U consoles and/or internet are just jacked. My Wii U loads everything 10 seconds(about), except for the occasional 20 for Wii U menu from leaving a downloaded game. I'd rather wait 20 seconds anyway, over an Xbox 360/PS3 freezing completely, forcing me to reboot and fix potentially corrupt data if it needs to.

SCAR392

#58

SCAR392 said:

Every device has it's problems, no matter how perfect they seemingly make it out to be. That's how computers are. iPad load times aren't even relevant. Those apps are 1000 times less data at least most of the time, sometimes a 100.

Hokori

#60

Hokori said:

@SCAR392 Thank you, also I have to say, my WiiU is faster then my iPad :D, but maybe I have a good WiiU unit and a bad Apple (pun intended) while others have a bad WiiU and a good iProduct, things happen, not every system is 100% exactly the same

Odnetnin

#61

Odnetnin said:

@Hokori I do agree that electronic devices like the iPad probably aren't good for the development of children and may negatively impact their attention spans. But saying that you blame iPads for people's laziness was asking for a snarky response, ha ha.

Hokori

#62

Hokori said:

@DarkKnight Yeah shoulda worded it better, I've loved apple for a very long time, but it's just now a days people make me have a bad feeling inside, and people expect EVERYONE to be apple, it's not happening ok

Zombie_Barioth

#63

Zombie_Barioth said:

I have to agree about modern tech's affect on society, people get so used to modern conveniences and the way things are that they forget how they ever lived without them. I'm not trying to sound like an old fogy here (though I'm more than capable), I've noticed my own habits swaying in that direction.

Hokori

#64

Hokori said:

@Zombie_Barioth It's even sadder when someone YOUNGER has to say that to someone OLDER.... I'm 19 and telling people older then me to be patient.... Now that's sad

billychaos

#65

billychaos said:

The load times don't bother me. I'd just like for more External HD drives to be supported. Perhaps if Madcatz or Nyko made one specifically for the Wii U.

meltendo

#66

meltendo said:

Ha ha,,.. NINTENDO: when I read about stuff like slow load times, I'm slower at opening my wallet. Fix it. You can't rely on just your first party titles forever.

AtomicToaster

#67

AtomicToaster said:

mine are at most 10 to 15 seconds... which is pretty long but this minute and a half stuff must be an exageration.

SCAR392

#68

SCAR392 said:

I can buy apples at Walmart for $1, at MOST. It's absurd that they sell them for $100s of dollars at Best Buy. I agree though. Apple products are releasing basically the same stuff every year for the same price. People are willing to buy an iPhone 4S over 4 for $100 more, just for Siri. Siri can't even answer any real questions, or even take a joke/insult.

MinecraftMatey

#69

MinecraftMatey said:

@SCAR392 XD Your so right! They just release a updated version with almost the same hardware, its mostly just tweaked and changed slightly... And I like Apples :D

KAHN

#70

KAHN said:

i never noticed a slow-down on mine, besides when i put in discs or loaded the wii menu.

Varia01

#71

Varia01 said:

Sometimes during loading, my Wii U won' t even turn off, it is starting to get really annoying.

Park_Triolo

#73

Park_Triolo said:

Jeeeeeesus... people today are SPOILED... I got my first electronic entertainment device in 1982... a ZX Spectrum 16K (which was later upgraded to 48K for close to 150 $ at the time). Do ANYONE out there remember the load times of that era? Or how about loading up Arcadia on a Commodore 64 WITHOUT turbotape? 20 minutes, people... 20 MINUTES!!!
Come on... loading times on the WiiU are 10 times faster than the speed of light in comparison and more than acceptable.
Yes, I'm old... 44 years of age... we bought the WiiU for our daughter, buuuuut of course also for my wife and I, and we love it. :)

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