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Cliff Bleszinski Thinks Wii U Naysayers Will Still Buy It

Posted by Trevor Chan

Gears of War creator sounds confident

The Wii U has got a lot of people excited and Gears of War creator Cliff Bleszinski is no exception. Speaking to IndustryGamers, he spoke confidently on Nintendo's ability to sell the Wii U to gamers ― even the ones who aren't convinced with Nintendo's upcoming home console.

Regarding the naysayers who dismiss the console as nothing but old technology, Bleszinski offered his take on the perception of innovation:

From what I’ve seen, it looks pretty cool. It seems like you can stream your game from your television directly to your [tablet] controller, so if you have irritable bowel syndrome, or a small bladder, you can still play it in the toilet. That’s great. But, you know, from what people are saying online, they’re like, "Oh, it’s just a DreamCast, whatever." But it’s like, "Dude, what’s old is new sometimes."

Bleszinski is clearly enthusiastic about the Wii U, and even thinks the gamers with negative attitudes will give in to the Wii U's appeal when all is said and done:

The Power Glove [back on NES] led to the Wii, right? The Virtual Boy led to the 3DS, right? A lot of these older technologies that you forget about are [the technological predecessors]. The Kinect is a sophisticated webcam, right? So I’m just dying to see it. It’s Nintendo. I’ll buy it. I know I’ll buy it. [The sceptical gamers will] talk sh*t but they’ll buy it...

Epic Games ― the studio behind the Gears of War series, Infinity Blade and Bulletstorm ― has made no official announcements regarding Wii U projects, but co-founder Mark Rein has hinted in the past that something is in the works. Speaking to Joystiq after the E3 2011 expo, Rein summarised Epic Games' position on Wii U development with:

If Nintendo made a system that could run our engine, we'd be on it like water on fish. And so when someone asked me what I thought about the Wii U, I said, "Water, meet fish."

[via industrygamers.com]

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User Comments (61)

WolfRamHeart

#4

WolfRamHeart said:

Ha ha, I totally agree with him. I'm one of those people that is highly critical of the Wii U but chances are that I am going to end up buying one anyway.:D

Faron

#6

Faron said:

i don't like that guy. He's like a big baby, in a bad, repulsive way. His games are pretty childish too.

Retro_on_theGo

#7

Retro_on_theGo said:

^Gears of War is childish?

I'm glad to hear so much positive stuff on the Wii U from third party developers! I'm so excited for it! I can't wait till it comes out, this is going to be great!

Traxx

#8

Traxx said:

Personally, I wished Nintendo actually elaborated on WiiU's capabilities using and expanding the Wii Motion Plus. Will WiiU once and for all establish the MotionPlus tech, will it improve it? Is there a Remote+ included in the retail release? And what about the Nunchuk? Wireless? Plus-enhanced?

First, I laughed at myself being concerned about the future of the Wii motion controls, but there are two things everyone should be aware of:
First, there is only one WiiU-Display controller per time, meaning others need to fall back to Wii remotes. And if you still have to support Wii Remotes, they need to be at least MotionPlus enhanced. You can't keep the silly waggle controls if there is PSMove and Kinect around. And second: actually good Motion Controls can help a game being a good, new, more variet experience - yes, I said that.

AmarMah

#9

AmarMah said:

@faron: hear, hear! this guy is a one trick pony, and how can some morons say the wiiu is like a dreamcast? ridiculous, they need reality glasses clearly. i find its losers most of the time who do the most complaining. wiiu is gonna be fantastic!

WaveBoy

#10

WaveBoy said:

Gears of War IS Childish. And ya, this guy really is one a trick pony...And the dreamast comment? completely ridiculous....I can't take this guy seriously, he's known for making mindless pretty shooters, yippie!

FonistofCruxis

#11

FonistofCruxis said:

I've been pretty negative about the wii U but I'll still get it for smash bros. and NMH3 and any other exciting games that get announced before release. Also, HD remakes of the first three mothership tales games have been hinted at and if they are bought to the wii U then that will give me another reason to get it. I really hope we don't get crap like Gears of war on the wii U though, you can't get more generic than that series but Infinity blade looks pretty good so it might be okay if epic games make some games for the wii U.

childofacid

#12

childofacid said:

@WaveBoy umm the Dreamcast comment? He didn't say it, HE is quoting what OTHERS are saying. I don't understand where the bad mouthing is coming from toward him when he is clearly saying the Wii U is a great machine and a big STFU to nay-sayers.

MeloMan

#13

MeloMan said:

I really don't think this clamor for the WiiU is fake but it's hard to tell sometimes. I do have to take into consideration the names and faces that have commented that haven't really given this much credit to a Nintendo system. We'll see how it goes when the "games" come...

MasterGraveheart

#14

MasterGraveheart said:

The more third parties, the better. Even if it may not be all our cup of tea, Epic Games is still respected in the industry and if they begin to support the Wii U, others will too.

Splat

#16

Splat said:

I love how some people on this site have something bad to say about every non Nintendo game or developer.

WaveBoy

#17

WaveBoy said:

@Splat
Are you kidding me? I've got nothing but love towards Capcom, Konami, Retro Studious, HAL, Goodfeel ect ect.
Maybe throw in a little Wayforward and Namco lovin while I'm at it.

dizzy_boy

#18

dizzy_boy said:

what makes me laugh is that people moan when there`s hardly any 3rd party support on nintendo consoles. and when somebody from a different 3rd than the norm comes out to say they`re supporting the wii u, people bash them for it.
this is what i want to see. more 3rds developing for the wii u, so i get more choice of games.
this is exactly what needs to happen, nintendo needs more 3rds, and alot more different 3rds are obviously now finding a new home on nintendo consoles.

y2josh

#19

y2josh said:

Just because that dude's buying one doesn't mean they are gonna develop for the Wii U. I'm sure he bought a Wii as well, and a Cube and 64 and a SNES and a NES. He's just a Nintendo fanboy.

Pj1

#20

Pj1 said:

Does Nintendo either read these repilies? Do be honest I'm in two minds over this new console, I bought the DS Lite and the Wii on launch day but I'm not sure. If you can play Wii games whilst the tv is off then I might consider it a bit more than I have but I don't like the idea of the Wii becoming a retro console and I also need to know if the VC will be available for Wii-U. I don't like the idea of that starting all over again as the Wii's VC library is pretty good and that should still be a good selling point for Wii. It's a case of more information please Nintendo and they would say be patient.

SilverBaretta

#21

SilverBaretta said:

Huh. Cool that even developers who haven't really shown a lot of support for Nintendo this generation are backing the Wii U up. He's got a point, too, since this is pretty much the Dreamcast perfected. Even if it's old technology, the fact that it's been polished and supported with this console makes it new.

Chrono_Cross

#22

Chrono_Cross said:

Waveboy, half of the devs you listed are in the same company as Nintendo or have had some development with them. Minish Cap, Brawl, Star Fox Assault Brag about Sony, Microsoft, Activision, EA, 2K, or even... Sega. Even though Sega can fit right into that category with Capcom and the gang.

But on topic: I'm loving this guy. I dislike Gears of War but if he can develop new IPs and even port Gears 3 over to Wii U, a lot of newcomers and vets will come to Wii U for various reasons especially if its superior to the 360 version just like Darksiders 2 will be.

triforceofcourage

#23

triforceofcourage said:

@19
He said if the console could support his engine then he'd be on it like fish. Then he said about the console: "Water, meet fish"
Read the whole article next time.

komicturtle

#24

komicturtle said:

I don't think Gears will ever be on another console. Less Microsoft wants to push it onto 3DS just as they did with some of their properties on DS, but even then, I don't think it'll happen as Gears seems to be Microsoft's property.

Y'know, I'm not a huge fan of Epic Games considering their vision of games- "All about POWER and INTENSE graphics". That's the impression I get from them. Do I hate them? Not really. They haven't done anything to make me hate them. I do appreciate that some team members of Epic are eyeing WiiU in a good way because that welcomes more parties to the system. Even if they make a game on WiiU, it's probably not something I would rush out and buy (if it did not happen on X360 and PS3, it's not going to happen now), considering the games they produce aren't appealing to me.

Lots of people hate EA. I don't. I actually like them and hopefully, they have MoH: Heroes 3 on the way.. At some point. Least Splat kinda clarified that some people hate on any non-Nintendo developer. But there's no point in bringing that up.. Because it doesn't.. Well, go anywhere. Trivial commentary, I suppose (as some members seem to do here).

Oh well. Bring on the games.

Swiket

#25

Swiket said:

Cool but Mark Rein is kind of a douche. Same for Cliffy. Epic made UT2k4, so I can't hate them.

Ernest_The_Crab

#26

Ernest_The_Crab said:

@24 Komicturtle92

Well that'll really all depends on the publishing agreement with Microsoft. Some contracts keep the IP with the developer while others give the publisher control. An example would be the recent Dragon Quest games. They are published by Nintendo (in NA) but they don't own the series.

Also,about the last paragraph, the same can be said of any major game forum out there. Try going to a Sony or Microsoft gaming forum and in a sense the hate "will come alive". It doesn't mean everyone does it, but those that do are generally the loudest ones. This point can be extended to the whole of the internet unfortunately, not just gaming.

Slapshot

#29

Slapshot said:

You guys that are talking negative towards Cliff Bleszinski and making the misconception that he is a 'one trick pony' and isn't a Nintendo fan clearly don't realize that the guy is obviously a massive Metroid fan. In fact he creating a Metroid clone called Shadow Complex (XBLA) and it's not only the best 2D Metroid clone of all-time, but it actually could be considered to better than any 2D Metroid game as well (people have different preferences), and the game has been called by many in the industry to be the best downloadable game ever created! It sold over 200,000 copies in it's first week available and has went to sale over 500,000 copies currently.

Fun Fact: Nolan North - the voice of Nathan Drake in PS3's Uncharted series - voices the main character of Shadow Complex, Jason Fleming, as well.

The fact that he is stoked about Wii U is the first thing that has gotten me excited about the system, and I'm sure he would love to bring the series to a Nintendo platform, as Microsoft doesn't own the rights to Shadow Complex, they just published it.

Check out the E3 trailer for Shadow Complex here and see for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-HvHPz__hw

TheGreenSpiny

#30

TheGreenSpiny said:

@#8 Traxx:

I totaly agree with you there... I certainly wouldn't want to play Gears of War without Wii Remote / Nunchuk support.

Well I'd deffinatly love to play Shadow Complex on the tablet controller though. Bring it on, Cliff!

WolfRamHeart

#31

WolfRamHeart said:

I just hope that more third party developers will embrace the Wii U with this much enthusiasm. Whether you like his games or not Nintendo needs all the third party support it can get. The more variety of games the better, I say.

JayceJa

#32

JayceJa said:

i think he's exactly right, cant wait to play my new console on the toilet!

on a more serious note, the only real NEW things in gaming has been HD, that being a real advancement in the visuals of gaming, everything else comes from something else, kinect is an improved eye toy camera, wii was an improved power glove, psmove is the wii, and the wii u looks to be a upgraded dreamcast or a giant DS

nothing wrong with that, sure, its not something thats never been done before, but it is something that hasnt been done on a home console for a very long time, and it isnt exactly a BAD idea, so why not give it another shot?

komicturtle

#34

komicturtle said:

I'm not touching yours and his controller @_@

Well, I wouldn't have to or bother.. But the thought of it.

@Thesolarknight

I know. But I'm pretty sure Gears is Microsoft's property.

*Goes to check.

Slapshot

#35

Slapshot said:

@komicturtle92 I'm willing to bet that 90% or more of the people that come to this site have played their DS (any version) on the toilet at some point. :D

.... and yes, Gears of War is owned by Microsoft up to Gears of War 3, if I remember correctly. It;s highly unlikely that you'll ever see the series off of the Microsoft platforms and will not most likely not be coming to Wii U.

Punny

#36

Punny said:

Even Cliffy B. is supporting Wii U. This system is going to be great. :)

JaxxRaxor

#37

JaxxRaxor said:

Gears of War would be sweet on the Wii U but I'm sure Microsoft owns at least part of that franchise, so it would never come to a non-Microsoft console. However seeing some new IPs, especially Wii U exclusives that make liberal use of the tablet controller would be awesome.

JimmyWhale

#38

JimmyWhale said:

Nice to see some people who actually know a thing or two about video games say good things about Wii U :)

BRAINFOX

#39

BRAINFOX said:

"just a dreamcast"? remember the last time the president of a video game company denied US gamers JRPGs before a new system with a screen in its controller came out...

GCNSean

#40

GCNSean said:

Cliffy B is right. I also would not be surprised to see Epic games on the Wii U.

Noire

#41

Noire said:

Woah woah woah, this guy worked on Shadow Complex?! :O :O :O

Oh man, c'mon Nintendo, it's not like you're opposed to letting Metroid be lent out, let Chair and Epic make a new 2D one for the Wii U ... that would be like an answer to so many prayers.

Capt_N

#42

Capt_N said:

"From what I’ve seen, it looks pretty cool. It seems like you can stream your game from your television directly to your [tablet] controller, so if you have irritable bowel syndrome, or a small bladder, you can still play it in the toilet. That’s great."

This is actually cool of him to say, since I know some people like this, who are just slowly starting to get into gaming.

zionich

#43

zionich said:

Even though there is lots of talk from the third party devolpers, its hard to imagine that the next console wars will be much different. Of course, this depends on if Sony plan on keeping the 7-10 year life cycle they were shooting for, as well as Microsoft.

Now I really have no clue where the majority is, but I know at my job, playing games= Black Ops/MW2 (Though I really dont care for shooters). I just really find it hard seeing those gamers get a Wii U also, especially if the new PS/Xbox comes out with enough power to say, run the Unreal 3 Engine.

daznsaz

#44

daznsaz said:

able to play on the toilet could be quite useful for survival horror games whole new meaning to shooting on the move

C-195

#45

C-195 said:

He says all this AFTER he says that the Wii U is Just a Stop Gap?
HE HAS FULFILLED HIS OWN PREDICTIONS!

Faron

#46

Faron said:

Shadow Complex better than any 2d Metroid? It's like saying that the Conduit is better than Metroid Prime. For me, it's the music, atmosphere, personality and story which counts, and that makes Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion clearly better than Shadow Complex. Also, Metroid has better protagonist.

Daisaku36

#47

Daisaku36 said:

Edit: I said "Wii" I meant "Wii U"
Hopefully his design team will come up with a good game for the Wii U. While Gears of War is pretty cool, it's a bit cookie cutter (I own both of the current iterations available, and will buy the third, and while they're both solid, they aren't terribly ground breaking).

Slapshot

#48

Slapshot said:

@MechaPheonix Thanks for finally understanding how 'epic' this little announcement could be.

@Faron Please don't misquote me, as I clearly stated that "it could be considered to be better than any 2D Metroid as well (people have different preferences)".

Nintendo has been outsourcing their brands to other companies and its been extremely successful for them lately with incredible releases like Goldeneye Wii, Donkey Kong Country Wii, etc. and if you've actually played Shadow Complex you'd understand that if Chair and Epic get their hands on the Metroid franchise, amazing things could happen!

Expa0

#49

Expa0 said:

Ugh, the support Wii U is getting from these cappy American FPS developers actually makes me more relucant to get the system. Hopefully Sony/Microsoft announce their, 10X-more-powerful-than-Wii U next gen consoles soon, so these developers leave Nintendo alone.

Highwinter

#50

Highwinter said:

@49: Gears of War isn't an FPS, and if you think that's the only title these guys have developed, you're incredibly ignorant. Just look at the variety of games this guy has worked on: Tyrian, Jazz Jackrabbit, Fat Princess, Shadow Complex.. Not to mention the Unreal series. Calling him a "one trick pony" is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard.

The Wii failed because it lacked titles like these. (yes I'm aware it was a financial sucess, but that doesn't change the fact it alienated gamers and software sales were very poor).

Daisaku36

#51

Daisaku36 said:

@48, Chair and Epic doing a Metroid title would be awesome! I loved Shadow Complex (and yes, I"d marry it if it were possible to). I think that it would be pretty interesting to see their take on Star Fox....

RyuZebian

#52

RyuZebian said:

I've had a great time playing GOW with my 360 owning friend, and I'd love to have it to play online with my friends! Bulletstorm would be cool, too. But old ports isn't the main attraction here however, but the future releases. Obviously.

Expa0

#53

Expa0 said:

@50

I couldn't care less if Wii failed because of lack of "these types of games" For me Wii failed, because of the lack of JRPGs, Fighting- and Strategy games. Sadly american developers have proven they're not capable of creating any of these genres, so I think they shouldn't even bother and just leave it all up to the japanese people and continue releasing their boring FPS and shooter games on Xbox and PC, where they belong.

raedjhn

#54

raedjhn said:

i totally agree whit u expa0
but still nintendo want more customer so.......
i dont balm them

The_Fox

#55

The_Fox said:

Listen to Slapshot, for he speaks the truth. Shadow Complex is a fantastic title.

@expa0
Fighting games aren't really western developers strong suits (outside of Mortal Kombat), but the best strategy games are always made by western developers. Just look on the PC.

hydeks

#59

hydeks said:

Love his enthusiasm towards the new system! But yay, I already know this system is gonna be sold by me on day one, but I completely agree with Cliff in everyway. People bitch alot about what Nintendo does, but in the long run people always come back to nintendo at some point, and the fact is they have games to appeal to all gamers, not just shoot happy retards. You want shooters? PC or 360, very simple :P

Gamer83

#60

Gamer83 said:

The prospect of Epic making games for this system is the first thing to actually get me somewhat excited for it. Now I'll admit, as much as I've talked about the system I'd have gotten one eventually, probably used, for Mario, Zelda and Metroid but that wouldn't have been until years down the line. I still plan to wait to see what Sony and MS will offer before making a decision on Wii U but if companies like Epic, Bioware, Rockstar, etc jump on board and maybe with some exclusive properties, that'll make holding out a whole lot harder. Hopefully all this talk isn't just third parties blowing smoke up everybody's though.

JustanotherGamer

#61

JustanotherGamer said:

The Wii U could be a great console. The lack of a HDD is a concern. Nintendo just needs to include the option of having on. Kinda like the Xbox 360 s With 4GB flash memory. But that SKU does have the option of adding a 250GB HDD. If the Wii U does the same that would be a start. Plus Nintendo needs to look at the option of adding the ability to have the Wii U be able to use 2 Wii U tablet controllers instead of just 1.
Right now the Wii U is just the "Could have been" console. There is still time Nintendo to avoid dreamcasting the Wii U.

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