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Black and White are the Next Gen of Pokemon Games

Posted by Jon Wahlgren

Coming to Japan this fall

Not-Japan may have just gotten their hands on the excellent remakes of Pokémon Gold and Silver, but that doesn't mean the Pokemans are taking a break. Far from it, in fact, as the names of the first 5th generation of games has been revealed: Black and White.

It's certainly been a while since we've seen brand-new Pokémon RPGs; the 4th generation launched in 2006 with Diamond and Pearl.

The official Japanese Pokémon site notes the date April 15, where we expect a bigger feature reveal and hopefully some in-game footage.

Pokémon Black and White will launch in Japan this fall for the 2DS.

[via pokemon.co.jp]

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User Comments (92)

pixelman

#1

pixelman said:

Too bad it's not a 3DS title. Woulda been neat to have a Pokemon game launch with the new 3D tech.

JTC-Pingas

#2

JTC-Pingas said:

"Pokémon Black and White will launch in Japan this fall for the 2DS."
I think it needs to be fixed to just DS not 2DS.

Aviator

#6

Aviator said:

Ive already voiced my opinion on the forums about it, I won't start here.

Objection

#8

Objection said:

Lol 2DS... Interesting title decision, I hope they have some decent changes or at least, better character design than the last 2 generations... :P

skywake

#12

skywake said:

well, they might do what they did with Gold, Silver and Crystal. They made Gold and Silver "type 2" games so they had some of the benefits of the GB Color (like IR and.. Colour) whilst still maintaining backwards compatibility. Then they released Crystal and by then the GBC was popular enough that they could drop original GB support and do more animations and whatnot.

The 3DS won't be out until next year so why would they make these games which are being released THIS year in Japan 3DS exclusive? Having said that, they might "code in" some 3D stuffs and there is no reason why Pokemon..... umm... Grey can't be a 3DS exclusive game. The third in gen 5 could even be a launch title for the 3DS. Why not?

retro_player_22

#13

retro_player_22 said:

@ Egg miester

When you make so many games for so long, of course you're gonna ran out of ideas at some point.

Klapaucius

#15

Klapaucius said:

Already?!?!?! X__X
Still lots to see and do in HG. I'll try to resist the urge to get the Japanese version and wait for the UK release.

JulioMorataya

#16

JulioMorataya said:

Does anyone knows for shure it Pokemon Black/White would be what you could call "Pokemon 3" having "Pokemon 1" being Red/Blue and their re-releases, and "Pokemon 2" being Silver/Gold and their re-releases ??

Xkhaoz

#17

Xkhaoz said:

I JUST bought SoulSilver. Ah well, I'll just wait for Grey to come out.

AnticitizenOne

#18

AnticitizenOne said:

..would have been better to name them "Pokemon Dark & Light", I guess. Maybe they're going to introduce that new type, but that's just speculation.

I just went back to my childhood by playing HeartGold (I haven't even completed theKanto plot..), and I expected new editions to be announced, but if it's gonna follow the same old formula with just little additions to the main plot, I'm going to stop again.
I already skipped the first half of GEN IV; too many legendaries, too many Pokemon that are useless (I know there were many useless Pokemans in previous editions, too, but still..) and nothing new to get me excited about them. I don't even complain about the current games not being fully 3D rendered, but it's time for the new games to be in 3D (not the 3D you are thinking of, not the feature of the 3DS).

And why, dear Nintendo, have you still not announced the Pokemon MMO we are all waiting for ?

JayArr

#19

JayArr said:

I just really hope they do something to push the series in a better direction. Just adding new Pokemon isn't working anymore. Know what I mean?

TheBaconator

#20

TheBaconator said:

I can see why it is for the normal ds because technically the 3DS wasn't supposed to be announced for some time now.

Terra

#21

Terra said:

I did think it would be pretty hard to top Diamond, Pearl and Platinum for names, so I'm glad they've gone back to something simple.

Altkey

#22

Altkey said:

I don't care what console it's on I just want it to work with the Pokewalker! But it would be cool on a 3DS I just don't know how it would work on one.

mastersworddude

#23

mastersworddude said:

Its probably gonna be like gen 3, Pokemon Emerald was out when the DS was already released, and there are probably gonna be spin-offs on the 3DS until 6th gen, like with Pokemon Dash, Ranger etc.
Besides it would be a dumb idea to release it for 3DS already, as most people won't even have it yet, they did the same thing with Pokemon Emerald the DS was already out, but it was still released it for the GBA, the DS was still too new to put something as big as the new Pokemon game on.

Aronos

#24

Aronos said:

They need to hurry up an create a Wii version, mmo, or a semi-online 3D Wii game.
Pokemon, for me has grown rather stale and I stopped buying and playing them a long time ago because they need to make some larger changes or updates.

donx998

#27

donx998 said:

yes another one :) and there not running out of ideas there are still alot more colors they could have chose from .picking black and white could just mean something special like the new ledgendary pokemon that will come out could be black and white.

moomoo

#28

moomoo said:

Black and white... Knowing how easily offended and/or money hungry people are in the U.S,, they'll probably change the names of the games. I hope they don't, I want to see how it'll play out. ;)

Morphbug

#29

Morphbug said:

i totally skipped black and white as possible version names for some reason!
now... which one will be the "blue" one and the "red" one?!

now, should i wait for "grey" to go out, or wait a little longer until "xruby" and "ysapphire" are out?

@nintendo: just please PLEASE dont call the third game "rainbow"

btw, first gen -> GB, second gen -> GB & GBC
so maybe this game will have things unlocked or a third version only for the 3DS

Starkiller

#31

Starkiller said:

I think this is a good change in direction. imo, the name Platinum was starting to push it. I hope they pull it off properly.

Burn

#35

Burn said:

"For the 2DS"
Haha, nice. I believe it was announced long ago that the next reboot of the series will not occur until after the fifth generation, so you'll be able to continue transferring GBA Pokemon (which feels wayyy outdated now).

Possibly the third edition will make the jump to 3DS, but will keep the connectivity intact.

thaneds

#36

thaneds said:

THIS MAYBE THE FIRST CHANCE WE CAN HAVE THE DARK POKEMON: ex. Dark Lugia, Dark Mewtwo (ha ha), Dark Celebi, etc.

If so then this game will be better than the others, except for the gamecube. lol

MasterGraveheart

#37

MasterGraveheart said:

Whatever region Black & White goes to, they should do what Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver is doing and trek into another region halfway through the game. It should be Hoenn. That way, you have all five regions on one generation. Eh? How about that one?

Swiket

#38

Swiket said:

@AnticitizenOne

Nintendo does not make Pokemon. The gatekeepers of the franchise (Nintendo, Game Freak) have absolutely no reason to expand into a genre that is as different from the Pokémon core titles as night is from day, much less a genre that is dominated by a handful of existing, entrenched properties and uses completely different hardware, a completely different pricing model and is aimed at completely different demographics.

fishman100

#39

fishman100 said:

Hmmm, i'm a little skeptical about the names, but im sure that it'll be just another fabulous game in the series.

ToastyYogurt

#41

ToastyYogurt said:

What?! A new generation already?! They are breaking the trend here. The next generation needs to launch on the next gen console (which would be the 3DS). Nintendo should wait 'till they at least announce the 3DS in a conference or something. And speaking of waiting.... why so soon? April 15 is only 6 days away, and not only that, but Heartgold and Soulsilver were released in Japan only 7 months ago. They should at least wait a year or two before coming out with a new game, let alone a whole new generation.

I dunno why I care, considering I'm done with Pokemon, but I just want my word out.

P.S. These names are probably the worst ones ever.

Swiket

#42

Swiket said:

@Destroyer360: It's not too soon. Sure, it's the second generation on the DS, but Pokemon G/S came out about three years after R/B. And it's almost been four years since D/P first came out in Japan.

Also, are the names really better/worse than Pokemon Red/Blue?

Odnetnin

#43

Odnetnin said:

The announcement of a new Pokemon game right next to an article about HG/SS makes me so glad I quit Pokemon with Platinum.

Gilgaland

#44

Gilgaland said:

Fall of 2010 will probably mean it will april-mayish 2011 for america and 2030 for europe .". silly NOE

ToastyYogurt

#45

ToastyYogurt said:

@Swiket: It's just the fact that with the latest names having "rich" colors after the original generation, (gold, silver, crystal, ruby, sapphire, diamond, pearl, platinum) it feels like Nintendo got lazy and just named the new games on the two most basic "colors" ever. At least name them using real colors. How about pink and orange, Nintendo?

jcgamesx

#47

jcgamesx said:

Waiting on Pokemon Indigo and Pokemon Hot Pink :P
Im excited, but hopefully racial problems dont interfere too much.
Well judging by the simplicity of the titles, the games will hopefully be a re-boot. Please, NO Pokewalker!

Atlantis1982

#50

Atlantis1982 said:

The way I see it is this

COMING SOON: Pokemon GRAY, the third iteration of the 5th gen, coming to 3DS!

Yeah, I will wait.

irken004

#53

irken004 said:

I just want a new, portable Pokemon Stadium. I'm tired of 2D-styled graphics in Pokemon games :P

Klapaucius

#55

Klapaucius said:

I can't see Black and White causing any racial issues in Japan. NOA/NOE might decide to change the titles, but probably will just stick with it.

CH405K1N6

#56

CH405K1N6 said:

Black and White are the best titles I've seen in the Pokémon series since Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.

I just hope that doesn't cause a "OMFG NINTENDO/GAMEFREAK IZ RACIST!!!!111!!1!" stir in the US, and that Carole Boston Weatherford (the one who complained about Jynx) keeps her stupidity to herself.

CH405K1N6

#57

CH405K1N6 said:

@Destroyer360:
"OMFG THEY DIDN'T WAIT UNTIL 3DS CAME OUT THEY BROKE THE TREND IT'S APOCALYPSE!"

You're complaining because they changed the trend?

...

I'm not going to bother correcting you. I'll just learn to be polite instead.

Noire

#58

Noire said:

I'm getting Black Version.

I will not acknowledge any name change. It will remain Black Version.

That is all.

AnticitizenOne

#60

AnticitizenOne said:

@Swiket

And Microsoft doesn't do Halo, it's Bungie, but that's not the point.
If you want to talk about Pokemon being turned into a cash cow if they expanded the Pokemon universe a bit more, well, it already is.
It's just plain boring playing the same game over and over again without a lot of additions. The gameplay can stay the same, as long as they change those godawful 8-bit Pokemon crys, improve the presentation and add a good plot with some twists here and there.
But knowing Nintendo (and GameFreak), they will stick to the same formula until they start losing fans, which does not seem to happen in the near future.

JimLad

#61

JimLad said:

Does anyone else think this might be an indication of when to expect the 3DS?
Otherwise, talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Etsura

#62

Etsura said:

I've never understood how being black or white is racist. I don't understand this whole racist thing anyway. I thought rasism was about picking on people of other color because they are other color. I don't see any link between that and naming Pokémon games as black and white. They are colors, dammit. It has nothing to do with human races!

Etsura

#63

Etsura said:

Okay went a little off the topic, I just get annoyed every time people are stupid about racism. I've been called a racist a few times because I've been as rude to dark-skinned people as I've been to pale skins. Doesn't really make sense to me.

Anyway, I actually like these new games and might even buy them both. Black and White sound so COOL! I just hope that there will be more character desings to choose from.

mjc0961

#64

mjc0961 said:

@12: My thoughts exactly. They'll probably make the third game on the 3DS.

I just hope these two games drop that awful Pokéwalker and keep the Safari Zone out (no Safari Zone was the best part of the original Gold and Silver, WHY did they bring it back?!), and bring back the VS Seeker.

Also, so many of you prove why we need to issue breeding licenses before letting people reproduce: How can you not know that 2DS means the DS versions we have RIGHT NOW?! Ugh.

Bloodysaber

#65

Bloodysaber said:

What was so bad about the safari zone? In HGSS the safari zone is completely optional. The only games you're required to go through the safari zone is in Gen. I.

Nintendophile

#66

Nintendophile said:

I think people are missing a key point in the write-up here: It mentions April 15th as when more INFORMATION will be revealed on the Japanese site, not when the new game will be coming out in Japan. Just because new info is coming out so soon, doesn't mean that the game will be shipping in the next few months.

Plus, HeartGold and SoulSilver are indeed remakes, and weren't meant to be considered the next chapters in the series. The last official chapters were Diamond and Pearl, and those came out quite some time ago. Looking at it that way, this comes as no surprise.

Bloodysaber

#67

Bloodysaber said:

@Nintendophile

The article says it'll release in Japan in the fall... so yeah, it will be shipping in the next few months. I wouldn't expect to see them in ..."Not-Japan" for at least another year, though.

Kevin

#68

Kevin said:

Already? I'm playing HeartGold/SoulSilver now. At least its a new one and not another remake. I'm enjoying this HG/SS remake BTW. Awesome game.

RowdyRodimus

#69

RowdyRodimus said:

$10 says if these come to the States with the names Black and White, Al Sharpton goes on tv and suggests a boycott.

Phobos

#70

Phobos said:

2DS? :-P

I was very surprised when I heard that Pokémon Black and White were coming out (yesterday), especially since people are just getting over HeartGold/SoulSilver. Looks like the Pokémans are hungry for more, eh? Not surprising, really.

I already have SoulSilver on my list. Now, to get or not to get...? I'm not sure whether or not I should wait for Grey, or go for SoulSilver now, and get Grey later, when it's released.

ToastyYogurt

#71

ToastyYogurt said:

@Swiket: Well, they're just bland colors. Don't get me wrong, I like the color black, I just think they aren't as exciting as other colors. I bet a few people feel the same way.

ToastyYogurt

#72

ToastyYogurt said:

And, uh... @CH405K1N6:
Uh, I didn't say it like that. I was just a little SURPRISED (not upset) that they were breaking the trend. And god, I wasn't TOTALLY freaking out (like how you made it sound).

Who's being stupid now?

ToastyYogurt

#73

ToastyYogurt said:

"Justin Towell of GamesRadar UK expressed disappointment, both that the games were not announced for the planned Nintendo 3DS handheld, and that the names evoked an image of obsolete Game Boy technology." (Taken from Wikipedia)

Swiket, I rest my case.

Rhansley64

#75

Rhansley64 said:

Well after the huge success of the Franchise is no surprise that there continue to make new Pokemon Version. (But i don't want to see a remake of Ruby and Sapphire since there's no gap at the moment that allow me to transfer old Pokemon to the new systems.)

motang

#76

motang said:

Too bad it's not a 3DS title. Woulda been neat to have a Pokemon game launch with the new 3D tech

I know man that would have been awesome!

Token_Girl

#77

Token_Girl said:

They're going to need to do something pretty radical for there to be a point. I already own 2 DS pokemon games; they are great; I don't need the same thing again.

Just have to wait and see. After Blue, I never get the original 2 though. I always wait for the third "special" edition to come out. If that's entirely for 3DS, it'll probably be worth it. Either way, I can take my time with Platinum/Silver and wait on the next gen.

SmaMan

#80

SmaMan said:

Aww, in honor of Michael Jackson?

Y'know, cuz he had that song, "Black or White"

TLink9

#84

TLink9 said:

I thought it was funny that blue version was all blue, make it black and white it would be hillarious, also not a big fan of the 3D graphics on the ds pokemon games. p.s. They could of came up with a better name.

turtlelink

#86

turtlelink said:

There would of been a real issue if they waited till now to make the third iteration of B&W yellow...

SmaMan

#87

SmaMan said:

That's an interesting point... what would the special third edition be?

Eh, Gray most likely

Linkuini

#88

Linkuini said:

The amazing online features were what made it worth upgrading to the fourth generation of Pokémon. I'm hoping they'll have something that big for this next one, otherwise this series just isn't worth the effort it takes to keep up with it. :(

SmaMan

#89

SmaMan said:

They could fix the online features... like eh, I dunno, GET RID OF FRIEND CODES!

Also it would be cool to random battle someone online, kind of like Battle Revolution did, except this game won't disappoint as much hopefully.

TKO727

#92

TKO727 said:

all I want from this new 3-D games are REAL BATTLE SCENES!

like when I use tackle, I want to see my pokemon actually hit the other one. the show makes battling look so legit but all the games are like "we dont promote ACTUAL violence"

Oh, and "dodge it" needs to be an attack everyone can learn because ash totally spams that move...lol

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