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Japanese Virtual Console list - January 2009

Posted by Marcel van Duyn

After a somewhat lackluster December, Nintendo of Japan has decided to start the new year with a rather good month. Aside from one of the most wanted N64 games, the general theme seems to be sequels - There's a lot of them planned for January!

The full schedule is as follows:


  • Tantei Jinguji Saburo Kikena Faturi (January 6th)
  • Getsu Fuuma Den
  • Zoids: Mokushiroku

Nintendo 64:

Sega Master System:

Sega Mega Drive:

PC Engine:

  • Rastan Saga II (January 6th)
  • Kaze no Densetsu Xanadu II (CD)
  • Spriggan Mark 2 (CD)
  • Champion Wrestler

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RGVEDA said:

Cool! Smash Bros! But i hope, that Europe gets Mario Golf 64 first!

When will we, and USA, get some Turbografx Games again?



Tides_of_Chaos said:

Cool, Super Smash Bros. I already have that game, but I know other people wanted it badly. They may be disappointed by what they get though.....



marktheshark said:

Drools at all the games that're on the list

Another N64 game?!

One N64 game closer to Rampage: World Tour!

And is that a licensed game on the list that I just saw?!



Kurachi said:

haha, SSB actually makes it to VC
will be fun having 3 smash bros games which can be played on wii
awesome to see, that the oldest and first smash bros gets on VC, thats how it started



AlexSays said:

Well of course.
Nintendo is releasing no new games for the Wii during the first quarter.

What do you do when you have no new games?
Release really good old ones to cover for the drought.

When Punch Out Wii and Sin and Punishment 2 are getting close, we can expect VC releases to become lackluster again.

They also want gamers who received a Wii for Christmas, to become excited about the Virtual Console.
So they'll start all those newcomers off with a most-wanted game, being Smash Bros.



LittLeLives said:

^ This man speaks the truth.

And yeah all three Smash games on one system is gonna be awesome at Smashfests.



Taco_Human said:

I already have Smash Bros in cartridge form, but maybe, if Nintendo is lucky, they will get another $10 from me.



Mike1 said:

All right, Super Smash Bros. I'd love for Monday's update to be that and Castlevania 3 (dreams).



Digiki said:

It'd be sick the made Smash Bros for WW and just added online, but since that won't happen and I already have SSB, I'll pass.

But yeah anyone else that hasn't played it should most definately get it



xesbeth said:

Roaaah Spriggan Mark 2! I'm jealous.

Maybe we will get it for the next hanabi festival....with the first spriggan




Rexy said:

Yeah, the original Smash Bros
This better fly around to English-speaking nations eventually if it won't be long for the Japanese to receive it, and there better not be any several-month-long delays to it either like Brawl



WarioFan63 said:

Nintendo is releasing no new games for the Wii during the first quarter.

Trace Memory 2



Betagam7 said:

I'm more interested in the turbografx content. Love the rastan games. Not sure what Championship wrestling is like but the genre is finally being catered for through TG



AlexSays said:

Trace Memory 2

Fine. Nintendo is releasing no new games in North America.
And they're releasing very few, oh yeah just one game in Japan, so they'll be offering good VC games.



blackknight77 said:

So 2009 might bring Castlevania 3, Life Force, Fantasy Zone 2 and Smash Bros. to the VC. Well thats something to look forward too

Edit: I also would hope Mercs and Clayfighter finally arrive



Cthuloops said:

Smash Bros. on the Gamecube controller would be awesome right about now! Also I want Majora's Mask NOW! snaps fingers Make it happen.



ZBomber said:

I'm guessing SSB is coming out in Japan for the 10 year anniversary (Jan 21 1999). Perhaps an April release for NA?



Cipher said:


That said, got Brawl, won't bother with this. But damn, good choice Nintendo.



King_Elemento said:

@25. NintendoBrad:
1200 points? Maybe the extra charge for... additional content?
The only things I can think of are improved graphics... updated stages/characters... glitch fixing...
And the most obvious: ONLINE PLAY.
Under which circumstances, it'll probably be an insta-download if it comes to Europe.



Drake said:

Plenty of Japanese VC games are more expensive than elsewhere. It's simply because they're more popular or have more content compared to other VC games. Ocarina of Time is also 1200 points in Japan for example.



hamispink said:

i already have smash bros in cartridge but 10 dollars is definitely well worth it for the best multi player ever



feng said:

Yeah the sequel was called Nastar if I remember correctly its nowhere near as good as the original but a good game none the less. I used to love rastan, the music swinging over the fire on those ropes was brilliant.



Twilight_Crow said:

Yay SSB, a friend of mine is gonna be really happy; me, I was waiting for a sign of Fantasy Zone 2 coming to VC, now I have hope.



Stuffgamer1 said:

Actually, I'd say Nintendo has no good Wii releases until March. Then they're putting out Mario Power Tennis and Pikmin in the "New Play Controls" series, and other big titles like Sonic and the Black Knight, MadWorld, and Rune Factory: Frontier. Pretty cool March, I'd say.

I'm still not buying the thing about VC releases when retail is slow anymore, though, not when the best Wii retail release for core gamers since Brawl (I speak of Wario Land: Shake It!) was released smack dab between Mario RPG and Secret of Mana in America. Wii Music and Animal Crossing headed the Wii Christmas lineup, and we STILL didn't get Christmas-quality VC releases!

Anyway, Smash Bros. sounds good, but I doubt it'll flap its way over the Pacific any faster than it thinks it can get away with. The lack of Soul Blazer or something equally awesome on this list is disappointing, though. Particularly when that something else should be Zoda's Revenge (you should give up all hope of my not mentioning that game frequently up until its release)!



CanisWolfred said:


Yes, and it just so happens that my birthday is in March!

I don't know what Zoda's Revenge is, but damn, what I wouldn't give to play Soul Blazer!



marktheshark said:

Most of those JPN only games on the list make perfect imports. Especially Kaze no Densetsu Xanadu II & Spriggan Mark 2.

It's just too bad it may take months, even a year or 2 until some of those JPN only games make it to the Europe & NA VCs.



PaakType said:

I sincerely hope Getsufuu Maden defies the odds and makes it over to the US. It's a pretty great action RPG that wouldn't really require any translation effort to be playable for English speakers (well, except maybe for the stores).



Starwolf_UK said:

So lets see of those ten a total of 3 of them can easily come outside of Japan...

Wait did I say ten, I should really say six since word on the street is Hudson outside of Japan has completely abandoned VC to focus their effors on Wiiware.

Still either way you look at it the service is becoming more and more Japan centric. This means we'll see even less releases in the west (meaing those 100+ comment posts are a weekly stay) unless western third parties come to bridge the gap or we get a splurge of import titles.

As for Super Smash Bros. Not too much of a surprise seeing as it was one of the first (and only?) titles pirates/creackers were able to get running well (a few minor glitches) using Nintendos very own N64 emulator so for Nintendo to do the same (and fix the bugs after all, they have the source code)...



Super_Flip said:

Fantasy Zone 2 AND SMASH BROS!?

Holy Crap, Looks like 2009 is starting with a bang.

Have your Wii point/Credit Cards handy, Everyone!



Terra said:

All i can say for Smash Bros is FINALLY! Worth the wait, probably not entirely but still, should be good fun. Also, surprised to see Fantasy Zone 2 on the list, i'll watch out for that one



Adamant said:

Psst, guys, it's "Getsu Fuuma Den", not "Getsufuu Maden".

And yeah, it's a great game, and not really texty enough for it to not work as an import.



VCmonster said:

I think it's diappointing. They release so few N64 games ad now Smash Bros.
Im still playing they new one, which is pretty much the same but better.



tatemon555 said:

Awesome! Super Smash Bros. and Fantasy Zone 2! I'll probably pick these up, if they make it to North America.



Ricardo91 said:

Super Smash Bros. and FZ II! Nice job, Japan! Let's hope we get both of these fairly soon.

@Mickeymac. Zoda's Revenge is the sequel to Startropics.



AlexSays said:

Wii Music and Animal Crossing headed the Wii Christmas lineup, and we STILL didn't get Christmas-quality VC releases!

Because it was Christmas time.
Did Nintendo need help making money this Christmas?
Heck no. lol



CanisWolfred said:

@Mr. Cheez

Ah yes, now I remember, although I figured Zoda's Revenge was just the subtitle. Wasn't it supposed to have been of significantly lesser quality than the original? Well, at the very least I won't be looking forward to it's release. Besides, I've yet to play the original Startropics.



Manicfatty said:

@ Mickeymac - I don't know about lesser quality... different, yes. But I enjoyed it. Maybe more than the first in some ways. The control was better, as was the music and sound in general. By virtue of it's later release the graphics were predictably better. Variety in locals to explore, and a new approach to powered attacks made for, in my opinion, a much better game.



Chunky_Droid said:

Holy crap Smash Bros.! I never got to play the original so I'll be eagerly awaiting its arrival



Virus said:

Well, this is extremely pleasing news to me. Can't wait for SSB.

And, sorry for my ignorance, but where is this rumor about Hudson dropping support for the VC outside of Japan coming from? I apologize if this is old news, but man, I'm sorely out of the loop and not happy with this.



Jockolantern said:

Excellent to see we're finally getting the original Smash Bros., even if it is the "weakest" of the three; still a fine game and I look forward to grabbing it.



StarDust4Ever said:

@Virus: That's exactly what you said it was: a rumour!

There is a particular list of classic "Mario" titles that I feel everyone should own:

SMB 1, 2, 3, and Lost Levels
Super Mario World
*SMW2: Yoshi's Island
*Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG
Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
*Smash Bros
Paper Mario

Out of the N64, all but one of these titles has been released: Smash Bros. I didn't include Mario Party due to the fact that Nintendo has released them with basically identical gameplay eight times. Really, everything on my hit list has been released in all regions except SMK and SMW2, because Nintendo for some reason has not taken the effort to biuld a working Wii-mulator for the SNES enhancement chips. Those games on my list, plus the three modern Mario adventures: Sunshine (GC), Galaxy (Wii), and New Mario Bros (DS) - also Thousand Year Door (GC) and Super Paper Mario (Wii) if you also like RPGs - are games that you have no excuse not to have ever played if you call yourself a diehard mario fan.

So yeah, diggity - that's one more gem I'll be eventually adding to my VC collection



tim2g said:

personally i think brawl is by far the worst of the three and melee is the best, although the original isnt far off. and its not like its such an amazing thing sometime last year homebrewers managed to put ssb on the vc by taking a copy of sin and punishment and replacing the sin and punishment rom with the ssb rom



CanisWolfred said:


Wow, looking at that list, I now realize that I am not a Mario fan. I hate at least half of those games you mentioned, and indifferent about two others. Of the remaining 4, only two are from the main series.

However, of the modern ones you listed, I can personally say that I've played and enjoyed all of them.


Yeah, except now we can get it legally, and without having to get rid of a great game.

Also, I'd say Brawl is the best, and Melee is the weakest, yet the original is my most played, even today.



KeroKero_Cola said:

Why more TurboGrafx games? They've released enough of those already. Turbografx needs a break to release more Nintendo 64 games.



CanisWolfred said:

I'd like certainly would like to see more TG-16 games. There are still plenty of good games on that system that have yet to be released. Really, the only N64 games I want to see are Chameleon Twist(had it, got rid of it, probably for a good reason), Turok(nostalgia, probably hate it once I get it), Mega Man 64(Nostalgia and it's Mega Man), and Mischief Makers(it's a Treasure game, what other reason do I need?).



Bass_X0 said:

#59: I didn't much like Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Sunshine and Thousand Year Door. I almost completed TYD but I can't be bothered playing it anymore but can't bring myself to sell it. There was a part on Sunshine that I gave up on because i just couldn't be bothered playing several times to do it and never really played the game since. And Super Paper Mario is completely dull. The story wasn't that interesting and it took ages to get to the first playable part. I really hated the space world. I still haven't completed it. Wandering about aimlessly in a maze with no background is not what i expect from a Mario game. Urgh...



BJ1 said:

Super Smash Bros! Yay! Me and my brother will be busy!

@Bass X0: I agree with you on Super Paper Mario.



sparrow-1993 said:

I'm glad that Super Smash Bros is coming out but I really hope that The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask is coming out soon. I think Melee is the best out of the three.



Stuffgamer1 said:

@Mickeymac #52: Yes, its proper title is StarTropics 2: Zoda's Revenge, but it's commonly shorted by fans (much like many people don't say The Legend of Zelda before EVERY entry in the series).

It's not a bad game at all. Manicfatty described it very well. I'm not sure which is really harder, though I've managed to beat both on NES whereas my brother could never topple Zoda's Revenge. It's one of my proudest accomplishments of super-hard-core gaming victory.



slangman said:

Finally an N64 game. And it's Super Smash Bros too.

And I found TTYD quite addictive. Last boss was murder though.



Rapadash6 said:

It's about time Smash shows up! With N64 games, as we all know, this one won't be far behind in other territories. It still perplexes me, though, why Europe never got Mario Golf. Anyway this seems to be the light at the end of the tunnel for those of us in North America who are just about to finish up a God awful month of releases (only Castlevania III being released on Monday will save it, but I'm not getting my hopes up again).



Yasume said:

Good to see we are getting Super Smash Bros. I already own it, but it's an excellent addition to the VC library.



Twilight_Crow said:

Wow, I've discovered that I'm a die-hard mario fan! I own each of those games you mentioned, the first four on the SM All Stars the rest in their original cartridges or discs, I didn't think about me liking mario that much . I'm a collector, and I almost never get rid of my games.
I like Super Paper Mario more than any other Paper Mario, didn't finished TTYD either, I just don't like their RPG style.



Jockolantern said:

@tim2g: I much prefer Brawl above either Melee or the original Smash. The original is a fine game but lacks the full-featured aspects of Melee and Brawl which make both of said sequels far more engaging and deep. Brawl is, for me, the most fun I've had with a multiplayer game since Melee, albeit the Gamecube title doesn't quite have the chops to edge out Brawl's vast array of great characters and levels, ability to make your own stages, fun single-player/co-op campaign, and seemingly endless supply of excellent musical score.



lockelocke said:

I'll agree that the amount of features in Melee and Brawl expand the game tons, but the original Smash is still my favorite. To me, the slightly slower pace of that game makes for a bit more of a strategical match, where every move/blow counts.

That said, Brawl kicks some serious A.

PS - just bought a 360 so I wouldn't have to ride the disappointment train every monday, not to mention wait around for months for a quality retail title. And I'm not complaining, I think the rate at which Nintendo releases VC games is almost reasonable, but I've just been missing out on too many classic titles.

That said, No More Heroes kicks much A.



Jolted85 said:

I hope Smash Bros comes our way in a few months, How many Wonder Boy games are they going to release on the VC before it's over with?!

Japan gets random games though, the Zoids game looks interesting...



Cally said:

My fav Smash Bros. game is Melee, which got so many things JUST right. I think it had the right amount of unlockables without becoming obsessive (especially with the "coin launcher" in Brawl. Have mercy.). Brawl: had a lot of ultimately boring stage designs with hyperactive backgrounds (example: the Star Fox stage), while others were a little TOO interactive, and items were severely overpowered. I think it was actually designed by GameArts, interestingly enough, with a lot of the developers coming from outside Nintendo. I like all the chances they took with Brawl, actually, since it was pretty much the only thing left to do after so squarely hitting the nail on the head with Melee.

But anyway, I'm looking forward to checking out the original.

Check out the onomatopoeia on the box art! Or is it . . . ? What does "biff" mean?



Bass_X0 said:

Its a comic "sound effect" for when someone gets punched - see the original Batman TV show where such "sound effects" regularly showed up on screen.



carson said:

SUPER SMASH BABY! can't wait for the U.S. to get it. I'll be smacking Pikachu around with Nes all day long



Objection said:

I really don't understand why so many people want Smash Bros and Majora's Mask. Basically, most Wii people have Brawl, which is superior, being SSB3 and Majora's Mask was not that great a Zelda game (IMO). Well, I guess it is all up to individual taste...



Terra said:

"Majora's Mask was not that great a Zelda game"
Why? Because it was different to the others? Some people don't like change, i guess. IMO, it was an interesting style of gameplay but not one i'd use again in the series.

"most Wii people have Brawl, which is superior"
That's true but, in my case, i like to play the first game in a series to see how it all started. Sometimes i'm pleasently surprised. I haven't played the first game before, so i'm looking forward to it.



CanisWolfred said:


Funny, I was just thinking to myself the other day that all the games that people are always clamouring for here are pretty much always my least favorite in the series. Majora's Mask, for instance, is by far my least favorite Zelda game, and probably the only game in the series that I didn't enjoy. The 3 day limit simply ruined it for me.

That being said, Super Smash Bros. has been one of the few exceptions, as it is by far my favorite Smash Bros. game. I like the slower pace, I love all the fighters(except Jigglypuff), I love all of the items and all of the stages. And hell, I even love the lack of extra modes, since I never used them in the later games, and all they did was make the main menu too cluttered.



ness said:

It's sad to read that some members dislike Majora's Mask because it did something different than before =(.

If everybody would think so, the Zelda series would never develop further, so hopefully after the great, but in some way old Twilight Princess, the developers try something new like they did for example with Majora's Mask.



Drake said:

Majora's Mask is easily my favourite 3D Zelda game. A Link to the Past will always be my favourite Zelda game overall though



Pj1 said:

If Europe get Smash Bros and Majora's Mask then I'd be really happy. If we get these games in the first 6 months of 2009 then it will be another great year for the VC. My opinion is 2008 was a great year for VC because we got Mario RPG but there are so many games that we're yet to see, I'm getting excited to see what 2009 VC offers us all. I wonder what America get tomorrow to see out 2008?... I'm hoping it might be a patch of C64 stuff to make things equal. Oh well Happy 2009 Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Betagam7 said:

I really hope it isn't true about Hudson abandoning the VC. Along with the C64 Turbografx games are the ones I'm most interested in as nearly everything is new to me unlike a certain Majora's Mask which you'd think was some unplayed and hard to find gem by people's rabid fervour for it.



marktheshark said:

@86, Betagam7

I wouldn't be surprised if Hudson were to change their mind about abandoning the VC.



Cally said:


Hudson is such a low-profile developer now, I'm sure they, of all people, have all the motivation in the world to make money off of their old property somehow, even if they backlash at the VC for reasons that aren't hard to guess at. I mean, Nintendo's almost their only hope, without the budget to make a non-download Xbox360 or PS3 game. I'm sure they'd stick with the retro market.



Cally said:

Having stuck out Majora's Mask and gotten EVERY sidequest in it, I can totally understand where the "love it" and the "hate it" comes from. I kind of went back and forth as I went through it myself.



shadows262 said:

Majoras Mask was a great Zelda game but Ocarina curb-stomped it brutally! lol

Hudson will never make a good that is not downloadable i`m sure of it



brooks83 said:

I keep hearing about Hudson saying they are abondoning the VC. Do you guys have a link to this story? If it's true I hope they change their mind.



Chunky_Droid said:

Zoda's Revenge for US VC this week. I'm personally gonna download it as I enjoyed the first one.



Pj1 said:

To our friends in America

What VC titles did you get today?????? 12/29/08



AVahne said:

My cartridge for Smash Bros was stolen a year ago,along with Melee, so even though i have Brawl i really want to get the original



Objection said:

Well, going back to my previous post, I made the SSB comment based on me already having the N64 cartridge. I guess I can understand if you never had it. It is considerably different in timing, making the battle system different from Melee and Brawl. As for Majora's Mask, I know there are people who were able to wade through it, but I was not one of those people.



Kenryoku_Maxis said:

Its good that the people who never got to play the original can now play it. Especially since the original is still so much fun to this day, even when it isn't 'balanced'. Not that any of the games are balanced, including (and especially) Melee.

But the major reason it is good that the original Smash Bros is coming out is so some people might be able to finally make the connection, Brawl was made to be more like the original game. From a visual sense making all the characters resemble trophies and their entrances to their move sets and longer air time to larger stages and the choice of items. Even the storyline and theme of the game. It went back to the roots of the series....which may be the reason Melee fans have a nack for being put off by the game beyond just the physics of the battle engine.



Kaeobais said:

@marktheshark: You could also just buy Rampage: Total destruction on the Wii or GCN. SSB is a good release, but I'm not gonna spend $10 on it when I own Brawl. Speaking of brawl, I was incredibly happy when I found out they braught back the fancy entrance thing. I just got the game a few days ago, but me and a friend played it tons on his Wii when it came out.



CanisWolfred said:

@marktheshark comment #6

I completely forgot about Rampage: World Tour! I played it at my friend's grandparent's house( I think), and it was awesome!

Actually, I'd suggest Midway Arcade Treasures 2, since it has Rampage: World Tour as well as someother games that you may(or may not) be interested in.



Terra said:

Rampage: Total Destruction on the Wii sucks massively. I know World Tour is on there as an unlockable but if anyone had the option, i'd look into Arcade Treasures 2



blackknight77 said:

I predict we get this by June 2009. Thats when we can expect the VC 300th game using the 5 game a month model.



Objection said:

@Tony-I will be pissed if the 300th game is SSB or LOZ:MM and not Earthbound. I think we should have SSB sometime within a month after the Japanese release.



Captain_Konami said:

As an aside, I'd say Midway Arcade Treasures is one of the stronger collections of classic games available. A good choice even if not specifically for a certain game or another.

As for the Japanese release schedule, Smash Bros being released is really not really The WOW in my book. It's fun. It's an N64 title. It's Mario (and friends). But it's not something I'm going to defer to to play in place of other classic fighting games I've got. It's worthwhile as something to grab for sentiment sake, but even if it trickles down to NA within 6 months of of release in Japan, I'm probably not going to spend on it until I go through other top purchase options among the VC library.

And while it's better than having NOTHING likely to look forward to, it's just not enough to reverse my low opinion of Nintendo's support for VC currently. But, I guess for many others it's Any Port in a Storm......get it? Port? Port?? .....Neither do I.

Hopefully though, this might be an indicator of a return to proper N64 support for the VC. I wouldn't mind seeing Rogue Squadron on the VC at some point (if the license could be squeezed out of Ol George's god-complex.......that's the organization AND the personality trait ).



CanisWolfred said:


Actually, that goes to Chameleon Twist 2, now that game was horrible. Chameleon Twist 1, however, was pretty good. I liked it enough that, after the third time I rented it, I actually bought it( a rare occurance in those days).



Mixer152 said:

F***ing hell FINALLY!! I cant wait till SSB comes to EUR oh man.
even though I still got my original cartridge the Wii's just so much more convenient



Digiki said:

Objection! @Objection
LoZ:MM is a masterpiece, and as such should be given to the masses sooner rather then later, EB can wait it's good at that.



CanisWolfred said:

Nah, I'd rather have Earthbound, it's been waiting too long. Majora's Mask is just gonna have to wait it's turn.



MetroidMedia said:

All I want on the VC now is Majoras Mask, Yoshi's Island and Earthbound. Then my Wii menu will be perfect!



Super_Flip said:

I didn't really like Majoras mask, To this day, I havent been able to find out where to go.

But Ocarina Of Time, That was Awesome. I havent played it in years. Last Time playing it was on the Gamecube via collectors edition disc



Roihu said:

Link already got his VC games quite a lot of times.
Ness deserves a chance at least once.
'Cause, really, it's his only chance.
Of course, if we put the unreleased translated Mother on the VC...
Then Ninten will get a chance which is just as good.



Kaeobais said:

100. Terranigma: I actually enjoyed Rampage on the GCN and I'm pretty sure the wii version is identicle except for the controls. It's all opinions of coarse.

110. Super Flip: I've been trying to find out where I can get a copy of the Zelda Collection. My favorite zelda is Link to the past, but that might be because it was the first game I ever played.



CanisWolfred said:

My favorite zelda is Link to the past, but that might be because it was the first game I ever played.

Or, maybe it's because it's really, really good. That's why it's my favorite.



Mixer152 said:

Yeah I really want Majoras Mask too, Ive never played it before.

and Im still yet to complete OOT and TP lol



Mipsymoodle said:

@ tim2g (#58)

how could you possibly say Brawl is the worst - i have friends who say melee is better and im shocked by it because brawl is the same game but better graphics, more characters, and more gameplay options but at least they say brawl is better than the original - you are obviously one of those people who hate sequals - so heres a question to ANYONE:

How are SSB on the N64 and SSBM on the GCN better than SSBB on the Wii?

I would love to know!

EDIT: By the way, I do love the original - i give it 5/5 stars - but this tim2g really surprised me by saying brawl was the worst



Digiki said:

Brawl is: slow, floaty, unbalanced, has lots of terrible stages, lots of terrible items, easy, lacks combos, and defense is usually a much more viable strategy than offense.

Melee: has more depth, only a few bad stages, less bad items, it's fast, has combos, more balanced than Brawl; the Classic, Target Test, Adventure, and Event Match modes were better than brawl's too.

SSB: best items, the worst stages were tolerable, the best combo's (although most characters had 0-to-deaths, but powerful offense is more fun than slower defensive battles), but it lacks some depth too.

I'd say SSB is the easiest to get into since it's easier than Melee, and more rewarding than Brawl



Kaeobais said:

I disagree Digiki, I've played all 3 Smash Bros. and IMO Brawl was the best, it has far more levels then any of them, most of which I enjoy; you can make your own levels; tons of characters, most of which are good; an indepth story mode; almost every mode has a 2p function; tons of trophies; hundreds of stickers; tons of songs, you can also set how often each song plays on a level; etc. It's all a matter of opinions. I love brawl more than any of the other smash bros. Also, if you found it easy, you should check what difficulty you had it on. Set it to team brawl, set 3 CPUs to, say, red, and set yourself to blue. Set all the cpus lvls to "9", turn the damage ratio to "2.0" and try to win. If you find that easy, you're either A) Lying B) The greatest brawler ever or C) got lucky.



dfalco said:

hey smash brothers great but that the only game that is good i had and still have the have it on the n64 it took me ages to finish it 4 years ago but i wan.t mario tennis and extream g and of course major mask and other great snes games



Digiki said:

Also, if you found it easy, you should check what difficulty you had it on. Set it to team brawl, set 3 CPUs to, say, red, and set yourself to blue. Set all the cpus lvls to "9", turn the damage ratio to "2.0" and try to win

Nah, computers are boring, and beating them doesn't give me satisfaction why would losing to them? Also its easy because the fighting mechanics lack depth. Trophies and stickers just artificially increase play time, they're nice but don't add much. A story mode that took way more development time than it was worth, and it shows. And it was specifically developed to be uncompetitive (it's developer didn't even want it to be the best it could be).

More=/= better



DrJonAngus said:

I would like to see a translated Dead of the Brain 1 and 2 for PC-Engine and some Snatcher for Sega CD, but putting up the very few Sega CD games would take ages and would be pointless. It would be nice to see more Japan Only Releases be brought over, even though they would cost more. I can dream though.



Shinnok said:

I preferred Smash Bros. Brawl. The experience was simply more grand. And for once, it had a great soundtrack with a gargantuan variety. But my second favorite is definitely Melee. I used to play that game for hours.

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