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Morphbug

21. Posted:

Here in Mexico they cost the same as SNES games.

I'm not complaining, though,

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Unca_Lz wrote:

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The awesome thing is, if you think a product is to expensive you don't have to buy it!

:O what!? how did you find out this incredible secret!?

I learned it before I thought I would become entitled to purchase everything for cheap prices.

I do find it odd that some gamers buy games...THEN complain about the price or things they should have taken into account before the purchase

Yep it is weird I only something if I'm certain its worth it.

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23. Posted:

Ryno wrote:

The awesome thing is, if you think a product is to expensive you don't have to buy it!

This made my morning.

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Klimbatize wrote:

Ryno wrote:

The awesome thing is, if you think a product is to expensive you don't have to buy it!

This made my morning.

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oh boy yesssss here we go!
i knew you guys wouldnt let me down.
the price is right!
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deal with it.

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SCAR392 wrote:

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Are you saying you'd rather have the cartridge? There's also that the cartridge is being sold for more on the internet. To stay on topic, if $8 or £6 is too much, then you aren't realizing how much cheaper this is than the original or resale price.

People are probably going to complain when DS VC games are $10, even though they used to be $30, and might cost $20 on eBay.

I'm saying a VC game does hold nearly as much value as the physical version so people comparing the two saying you only have to pay X amount for the VC version compared to XX amount for the original versions they are not taking into account all the benefits of the physical version honestly I feel it should be priced same as SNES games at £5.49-5.89 as it is not as it is not nearly as valuable as the original.

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@Jazzer94
That's your opinion. The VC version has better audio quality, VC menu, possibly better video(depending on your TV) and lets you play on your TV.
The only way you could play GBA on your TV, is if you had GB Player. There are arguably more benefits to having the VC version, as with any VC game.

You lose the portability aspect, but bringing your Wii U somewhere would easily fix bringing it over to a friend's house. Whenever I go over to one of my family members' houses, I bring my Wii U, especially since all my stuff is on the HDD. I don't have to carry that much stuff around, but I do anyway.

EDIT: Also, the battery in used cartridges is much more likely to go out soon, rather than a VC version, especially if you play it alot, or leave it cold areas. If you go on eBay, new copies are priced outrageously, and that's the only way you're going to get a new battery in the cart, without opening it to replace it, which costs money for a new battery, and repair price, if you aren't DIY.

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SCAR392 wrote:

EDIT: Also, the battery in used cartridges is much more likely to go out soon, rather than a VC version, especially if you play it alot, or leave it cold areas. If you go on eBay, new copies are priced outrageously, and that's the only way you're going to get a new battery in the cart, without opening it to replace it, which costs money for a new battery, and repair price, if you aren't DIY.

GBA carts use flash memory for saves in most cases (might be some exceptions), Pokemon used a battery for the internal clock which doesn't effect a persons save plus the batteries can be easily replaced and their not expensive I got 12 for £3.

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SCAR392

29. Posted:

@Jazzer94
Regardless, cartridges being better for the only reasons being, that they are still portable and you can take it somewhere, is an opinion.

I've stated reasons why I think the VC versions of anything are better. Besides, buying a battery for £3 just ups the price even more, which is what this thread is about.

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SCAR392 wrote:

buying a battery for £3 just ups the price even more, which is what this thread is about.

You mean £0.25 right?

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Ark

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I don't believe there's much point in elaborating further on the digital versus physical comparisons considering the value of both ultimately comes down to an individual's preference. Furthermore, which option is "cheaper" depends on a myriad of factors since the Wii U owner might have purchased their console for cheap and have access to none of the consoles or accessories required to play the original games to their full potential (plus the second hand market has many extra variables such as quality and price of the physical item, counterfeits, etc.).

You could say the original versions have the "flexibility" to be better, but the Wii U versions offer a very defined experience that, generally, will suffice for many and most certainly provide a cheaper base experience for those the VC is aimed at. The people who are better off with a physical copy most likely already have one.

For instance, not everyone everyone cares to maximize the versatility of a game that they'll play for 15-20 hours and never touch again aside from the rare nostalgia fix. So, having the features that Scar mentioned might be sufficient, as you get (...usually) the definitive version of a game at a considerably cheaper price point rather than shelling out upwards of often at least £20 for just the game. You might not be able to take the Wii U VC game to your friend's house, but you can most certainly still bring your system with the games on it. Some will find that prospect inconvenient but I know I've done this hundreds of times over the years and now that the Wii U tablet has a screen, all your friend really needs is electricity and an outlet to achieve the base experience.

The original versions might have extra features like multiplayer, but not every Wii U owner wants or needs that functionality (and some VC versions just might end up supporting it anyway since M2 is involved). Furthermore, many people would have to shell out extra money for a link cable to get access to this feature. Sure, they're not too expensive and can be used for multiple games (providing enough potential utility to cover the cost), but the Wii U offers instant gratification that is covered in the initial price of the game.

If you want the benefits of a physical item, and these absolutely exist, you're possibly not in the market for these Virtual Console titles anyway. A Wii U owner might not have access to the prior Nintendo systems and simply want to have a good time with a game they liked or one they never had the access to before.

TL;DR: I just don't think that this can be calculated down to an exact science either way, but on Wii U, the games are accessible and cheap.

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Jazzer94 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

buying a battery for £3 just ups the price even more, which is what this thread is about.

You mean £0.25 right?

My bad. I thought you said 1 was £3. Still, you have to take it apart, and you're paying more for a cartridge, at this point. Replacing the battery, even if it was free, would be more work than none, and there are still benefits to a VC version that are arguably more worth it than a cartridge.

It's the same thing with other VC games. They show up good on your HDTV, all your games are in one place(which the NNID is keeping track of), etc. as I mentioned earlier. I'd way rather have a higher quality version of the game, in exchange for GBA portability.

Also, the batteries you put into GB cartridges are apparently more expensive in the U.S.
http://www.walgreens.com/q/watch+batteries

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@Ark
Exactly. I definitely consider the VC versions the definitive versions. They have better video, audio, convenience, cheaper, widely available(part of convenience), and VC options.

I realize that you can't lend it or use it on a portable anymore, but the benefits outweigh the sacrifices. In my case, hands down. We wouldn't even be debating this if it had originally been released on a home console, anyway.

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I don't have a problem with Virtual Console prices in general. Sure, you can get the games using other nameless methods, but the games can be glitchy. With the Virtual Console, the games are guaranteed to work 100% and often have extra features added (such as save states).
I'm generally not a fan of digital distribution (I still buy most of my games at retail) but for older games, especially hard-to-find ones, services such as the Virtual Console are great and the prices are fair, in my opinion.

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35. Posted:

the prices seem fine to me.

But of course I remember when these games cost 30+ dollars in NA and buying a 2nd GBA that so I could actually play GBA games beyond just when the lighting is ok (freaking Circle of the Moon...). So I might be a bit biased.

For the NES and SNES I think you could easily argue they should both be a dollar cheaper at this point but with the new features and stuff, this is more than acceptable for GBA.

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SCAR392 wrote:

Also, the batteries you put into GB cartridges are apparently more expensive in the U.S.
http://www.walgreens.com/q/watch+batteries

I found this site after a little searching which had similar prices to what I mentioned I guess you just have to search around and if memory serves me correctly Walgreens is a pharmacy sort of so wouldn't be the best place to buy batteries.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Lithium-CR2032-Batteries-Blisters/...

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@Ark Yes this is entirely opinion based like most things we talk about on the forum so I don't see a problem with discussing the pricing structure like how I think the two pricing structure being implemented for GBA VC should be brought to every region as its quite clever.

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Jazzer94 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

@Jazzer94
Are you saying you'd rather have the cartridge? There's also that the cartridge is being sold for more on the internet. To stay on topic, if $8 or £6 is too much, then you aren't realizing how much cheaper this is than the original or resale price.

People are probably going to complain when DS VC games are $10, even though they used to be $30, and might cost $20 on eBay.

I'm saying a VC game does hold nearly as much value as the physical version so people comparing the two saying you only have to pay X amount for the VC version compared to XX amount for the original versions they are not taking into account all the benefits of the physical version honestly I feel it should be priced same as SNES games at £5.49-5.89 as it is not as it is not nearly as valuable as the original.

The huge flaw in your argument is that Nintendo alone determines the value of the VC and no one else.

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Unca_Lz wrote:

Jazzer94 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

@Jazzer94
Are you saying you'd rather have the cartridge? There's also that the cartridge is being sold for more on the internet. To stay on topic, if $8 or £6 is too much, then you aren't realizing how much cheaper this is than the original or resale price.

People are probably going to complain when DS VC games are $10, even though they used to be $30, and might cost $20 on eBay.

I'm saying a VC game does hold nearly as much value as the physical version so people comparing the two saying you only have to pay X amount for the VC version compared to XX amount for the original versions they are not taking into account all the benefits of the physical version honestly I feel it should be priced same as SNES games at £5.49-5.89 as it is not as it is not nearly as valuable as the original.

The huge flaw in your argument is that Nintendo alone determines the value of the VC and no one else.

hes right, and my persuasive emails to nintendo arent helping prices go down either.
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@Unca_Lz So you're saying I shouldn't have the opinion that UK GBA games should be priced same as SNES like they're in every other region.

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