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dizzy_boy

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So I decide to get a couple of games on the WiiU VC that I already own on the Wii VC just to see if there were any differences between the two.
Bearing in mind that I transferred all of my Wii downloads over to my WiiU already.
The two games I used are Super Mario World and Punch Out.
On the WiiU both games are crisp and clear, and the colours look nicer too. Although the Wii versions are still good visually, the WiiU versions are slightly better.
Super Mario World on the Wii VC is already in 60hz mode where as Punch Out is in 50hz. So going from the Wii to WiiU, Super Mario World won't be to much trouble, but with Punch Out there is a notable difference in speed.
I have an old CRT TV which I have my WiiU plugged into, and the screen is set to 4:3 ratio. With this, I found the other difference is that the games on the Wii VC, Super Mario World filled the whole screen and Punch Out only had slight boarders top and bottom of the screen. The WiiU versions don't even fill the screen, they both have boarders top and bottom, plus left and right of the screen.
When my CRT TV decides to die, I'll think I'll wait until I decide to get more WiiU VC games.

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Well the speed is no surprise since Europe is using the US versions of the games now

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romulux

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As far as I'm concerned the Wii U VC is the best way to play retro games now. The SNES picture quality matches a PC emulator set to 2x the normal resolution, which is much better than Wii mode's method of rendering to 480 and then scaling to 1080 (not as blurry or distorted, much better colors).

I personally don't care about the black bars on the top and bottom when the image quality is that much better. Plus, the gamepad works really well for sidescrollers; I actually prefer it to the CCPro. My hands feel really cramped and close together when I use the pro now.

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ogo79

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oh man! maybe we can start a war like the snes vs genesis all over again! were bringin it back, and...
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tudsworth

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ogo79 wrote:

oh man! maybe we can start a war like the snes vs genesis all over again! were bringin it back, and...
WERE GOIN TO GOLDEN CORRAL!

O... kay then?

I have to agree with @Romulux - despite being used to the original 50Hz versions of NES and SNES games, the WiiU is generally better for playing older games than the Wii is. It's nice to be able to play older Nintendo games the way they were meant to be played, not to mention how much more comfortable the GamePad is as a controller. I don't know if the fact I'm using HDMI output is to thank for this, but the WiiU VC has superior colour depth on my end, too, though that may be because I'm switching from a Composite output, which... isn't particularly good, to say the least.

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WaveBoy

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i have a feeling the HDMI cable you guys are using on your Wii U is giving you that boost in color and overall crisper PQ Vs the Wii's component and especially composite connection. I guess this is a bonus for NES VC games since the colors are dark and washed out on the Wii even using component cables. You basically have to ramp the color all the way on your TV to get those vibrant colors.. :p

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MAB

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@Wavensteiner I knew you would step up to the plate bro ;)
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SCAR392

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Wii U VC is the winner hands down, besides barely releasing and without the full list of games to boot.
The lag I've heard from isn't that bad if you are using a newer TV, but is basically impossible to get rid of without a better TV. My parents have a 2009 Panasonic 47" 1080p 120hz. That TV is basically impossible to play on. I have a 2012 Insignia 39" 1080p 60hz.
Being sent HDMI is the main problem with lag and color(for Wii), but I think it the quality is better overall. My Wii lagged no matter what I did hooking it up to a larger HDTV, but transferring my Wii games to Wii U got rid of the lag on Wii games.
So, Wii U VC wins for me by having the gamepad, custom options, restore point, and HD. Wii U also gets rid of any lag I had for Wii, so the console overall actually lets me play Wii VC.
The Wii U VC wins, because if you have a Wii U, you have the Wii VC anyway.

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RedYoshi999

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I tested out Super Mario World on Wii VC and WiiU VC and I have to say I much prefer the WiiU VC. The colours are just so much better! Also, the 4:3 screens let you play the game as intended as opposed to the Wii VC's stretching to 16:9. Haven't noticed the differences between 50Hz and 60Hz yet though. I don't like when pausing the game on Wii U it lags when you return to it, not letting you run instantly. That minor issue aside, the extra features of the Wii U and the better quality make the WiiU VC win hands down. Now, if only we were getting more than 2 games a week that haven't been re-released TWICE on the Wii and 3DS VC's.

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SCAR392

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@MarioPartyFan999
They will be fixing the loading times in summer, which will get you back playing Mario instantly.

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Lan

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I wish they wouldn't be so faithful to the hardware, I don't want the framerate to tank when there are more than two enemies onscreen in Kirby.

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tsm7

13. Posted:

@Lan Yea, I've been saying the same thing.

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Lan

14. Posted:

Just give us a smooth 60 frames per second. Not everyone gets off on nostalgic lag.

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SCAR392

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Lan wrote:

Just give us a smooth 60 frames per second. Not everyone gets off on nostalgic lag.

There would be complaints either way. I'd rather have the game run without framerate issues and such, too.
They ran Starfox 64 off the Wii hardware when it first released back on Wii VC in 2007, but people complained that it wasn't emulated to the original speed, so they updated it to run like it would have on N64.

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romulux

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WaveBoy wrote:

i have a feeling the HDMI cable you guys are using on your Wii U is giving you that boost in color and overall crisper PQ Vs the Wii's component and especially composite connection

HDMI definitely improves over composite (maybe component), but that's not the only reason the picture looks better. I was using HDMI with both the Wii U VC and the "old" Wii mode when I made the comparison and there was still a big difference between the two.

The reason the games look better is that they're being "rendered" at a higher resolution (output 200% larger than original size and then stretched by the emulator to fill the screen) rather than being rendered at their native resolution and then upscaled by the hardware. I'd love to post some screenshots of the difference 2x resolution makes but I don't know how....

Another nice improvement with the Wii U VC is that overscan can be disabled now while still keeping a 4:3 picture. In Wii mode it wasn't possible to disable overscan without getting a stretched 16:9 picture. Just another nice little fix.

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