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Hendesu

I know it's unlikely for them to be available on eshop, but should it be available for Wii U virtual console?

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They will not be made available on the eShop. Rondo of Blood is on the Wii Shop Channel though.

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Tasuki

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I know it's unlikely for them to be available on eshop, but should it be available for Wii U virtual console?

Rondo perhaps if Nintendo pulls it's head out of its butt when it comes to VC games but it also depends on Konami which at this moment who knows.

As far as SotN probably not since it was never on a Nintendo console and I don't see them ever adding PS games to the VC for obvious reasons. Yeah they could add Saturn games but again that's probably up to Sega. If they would have brought SotN to a Nintendo console they probably would have when they brought it to the XBLA.

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Aldebaran

I think PC engine games are available on Japanese Wii U Virtual Console therefore it could mean there is a possibility of PC engines games such as Rondo of Blood to come to the Wii U VC (if realeased in Japan first) in the future

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nacho_chicken

Tasuki wrote:

Sakurai wrote:

I know it's unlikely for them to be available on eshop, but should it be available for Wii U virtual console?

Rondo perhaps if Nintendo pulls it's head out of its butt when it comes to VC games but it also depends on Konami which at this moment who knows.

As far as SotN probably not since it was never on a Nintendo console and I don't see them ever adding PS games to the VC for obvious reasons. Yeah they could add Saturn games but again that's probably up to Sega. If they would have brought SotN to a Nintendo console they probably would have when they brought it to the XBLA.

Apparently the Saturn port of SotN is awful (and only in Japanese). Even if they decided to get with SEGA to release an official Saturn emulator, expect blurry visuals, long load times, frequent slowdown, downsampled audio, and non-existent transparency effects.

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If it ever released here, I very much doubt it would involve emulation of any sort.

Konami has ported this one at least twice in recent years, to the Xbox 360 and the Playstation Portable (On the latter, as part of 'Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles', which is a full fledged port, rather than emulation of the PS1 iso like the unchanged download off PSN for the PSP/Vita/PS3).

If they ever brought it over to the Wii U eShop, I would expect another port and for it to join the likes of Chronicles of Mystara, for at least one other example of a non Virtual Console categorized, classic gaming release on the Wii U eShop.

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CanisWolfred

nacho_chicken wrote:

Tasuki wrote:

Sakurai wrote:

I know it's unlikely for them to be available on eshop, but should it be available for Wii U virtual console?

Rondo perhaps if Nintendo pulls it's head out of its butt when it comes to VC games but it also depends on Konami which at this moment who knows.

As far as SotN probably not since it was never on a Nintendo console and I don't see them ever adding PS games to the VC for obvious reasons. Yeah they could add Saturn games but again that's probably up to Sega. If they would have brought SotN to a Nintendo console they probably would have when they brought it to the XBLA.

Apparently the Saturn port of SotN is awful (and only in Japanese). Even if they decided to get with SEGA to release an official Saturn emulator, expect blurry visuals, long load times, frequent slowdown, downsampled audio, and non-existent transparency effects.

Well, nothing has stopped them from releasing Dracula X on Wii U VC, so I guess it'd be possible...

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CanisWolfred wrote:

nacho_chicken wrote:

Apparently the Saturn port of SotN is awful (and only in Japanese). Even if they decided to get with SEGA to release an official Saturn emulator, expect blurry visuals, long load times, frequent slowdown, downsampled audio, and non-existent transparency effects.

Well, nothing has stopped them from releasing Dracula X on Wii U VC, so I guess it'd be possible...

Also Castlevania III, which is a crappy port of the Famicom version. (The music is downgraded.)

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CanisWolfred wrote:

nacho_chicken wrote:

Apparently the Saturn port of SotN is awful (and only in Japanese). Even if they decided to get with SEGA to release an official Saturn emulator, expect blurry visuals, long load times, frequent slowdown, downsampled audio, and non-existent transparency effects.

Well, nothing has stopped them from releasing Dracula X on Wii U VC, so I guess it'd be possible...

Also Castlevania III, which is a crappy port of the Famicom version. (The music is downgraded.)

The loss of the VRC6 chip in the western version of Castlevania III is one of the greatest tragedies of the NES era of gaming. Another is Lagrange Point not being released outside of Japan. Those soundtracks just blew everything else out of the water.

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If the XBOX 360 can get SOTN then so could the Wii U. It probably won't happen but its not impossible. Saturn games are impossible though.

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I've played the Saturn version of SOTN the game is overall worst than the PSX despite it includes fancy extras such as playing as Maria (it's super fun btw), or a couple of extra stagaes. I don't know why but the Saturn version suffers from a lot of slow down and some graphics 3d effects look bad compared to the PSX version.

The NES Castlevania III is an absolutely crappy port once you've heard the outstanding music of the Japanese version, the same could be said of the SNES Dracula X compared to the original PC Engine version. Although both watered down versions are still fun and have their own charm (for example Dracula X cemetery stage musics sounds better than in the PC Engine as strange it may be)

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unrandomsam

nacho_chicken wrote:

Tasuki wrote:

Sakurai wrote:

I know it's unlikely for them to be available on eshop, but should it be available for Wii U virtual console?

Rondo perhaps if Nintendo pulls it's head out of its butt when it comes to VC games but it also depends on Konami which at this moment who knows.

As far as SotN probably not since it was never on a Nintendo console and I don't see them ever adding PS games to the VC for obvious reasons. Yeah they could add Saturn games but again that's probably up to Sega. If they would have brought SotN to a Nintendo console they probably would have when they brought it to the XBLA.

Apparently the Saturn port of SotN is awful (and only in Japanese). Even if they decided to get with SEGA to release an official Saturn emulator, expect blurry visuals, long load times, frequent slowdown, downsampled audio, and non-existent transparency effects.

There is more content. Better hit detection. (There is no excuse for a 2D game ever being worse on the Saturn however).

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An easy way to get both games would be to port Dracula X chronicles from the PSP onto the eShop for 3DS/Wii U. That would make the most sense rather than releasing the two games onto the Virtual Console and tinkering with a Saturn emulator. The PSP version has Maria playable but the voice acting is different (not as cheesy).

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crazycrazydave wrote:

An easy way to get both games would be to port Dracula X chronicles from the PSP onto the eShop for 3DS/Wii U. That would make the most sense rather than releasing the two games onto the Virtual Console and tinkering with a Saturn emulator. The PSP version has Maria playable but the voice acting is different (not as cheesy).

Yes the PSP version has adult Maria as a playable character although she uses different techniques than in the Saturn version. In PSP she uses her skills of childhood shown in Rondo of Blood while in the Saturn version she uses martial arts combined with Witchcraft like skills.

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Gerald

Off topic, would love Saturn games on VC

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unrandomsam

I am not sure I would want a port of the PSP version. I wouldn't mind the English text added to the TG16 version (As was done as part of the PSP release) and put on VC.

That and a port of the XBLA version would be fine by me. (Kind of indifferent to Symphony of the Night prefer X68000/Chronicles).

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RegalSin

Rondo Of blood is an PCE game and will always be. Why? Because they censored the release of the VC game

The PSP version of ROB is an complete revamp of the game and they destroy the original-ism of all the characters, re-wrote the story and Dracula third form is just his human body with more wings. You are much happier saving your money and getting the PCE game.

Syphony of the Night is an PSX and more importantly the Saturn game got all the extras from my understanding??? However the story is not the official story and it is merely an extension of the PCE game to show how powerful the PSX/Saturn is really.

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Dracula X Chronicles on PSP also has a port of the PC Engine version of Rondo of Blood and a revamped port of Symphony of the Night.

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unrandomsam

The original intro does seem slightly better.

The voice sounds more like somebody involved in religion.

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It is an ancient time game what do you expect? The same with Zelda games, and the reality of cults. Back then in the 1970's ( and 1960's ) many cults were made realistic. They had "Satanic"-worshiping among many other pagan ideas. Chances are one of the developers on team would go to such places or they had an bunch of Horror-films with satanic ideas. This kind of stuff was really common during the "Christian Era" ( "Born again Christian Era"/ "Commercial 80's" / "Super 80's eras).

This kinda stuff basically ended when 2001 occur and the craptastic racist anti-privacy of the patriot act came into to play. US military are just doing the dirty work. WE CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IN SANTA-SAN or SANTA CLAUSE anymore thanks to 2001. The only people who believe are either racist or desperate for some hold on reality.

Also this was ( and is ) the PCE. The PCE was an mature ( PC ) system made for real gamers, or the last of the 2d gamers. After that it was just N64 downhill. The PCE had the last of everything and most everything that was and is gaming in general. After that it was just crummy SNES with small tiny sprites being stretched on an big display ( like your living room tele ). AKA poor-peoples videogames/kiddies Tv-toy. The PCE was the greatest thing evar. I still collect and play it from time to time.

CVPSP is not worth it in my opinion. They make you do an bunch of things just to unlock the originals, and my better question is "are the originals censored" and that is what my biggest issue is. After hearing about the "speedo" and "no cat ears" it just drown the idea of this of even owning the PSP game. Then I saw the Maria cut-scene and just threw-up. They made the Maria cut scene into a travesty. It was awful. She is no longer cute, and looks like an god-forsaken boy.

Even Ritchets costume looks like something from the Disney movie "Enchanted". It is just so terrible. Then their is super-dracula ( just Drac with six extra wings. ). It is so pugly...ALSO ALSO DRACULAR IS SUPPOSE BE YOUNG AND DIGNIFIED IN THIS COMEBACK. Not old like his PSX/Saturn counter-part. DRACULAR is not old until he hits the SNES/PSX-fandom. I wanted to see an young and youthful drac. Even the Drac on the N64 ( Dracula reborn ) makes more sense to ROB then the PSP or PSX game.

Finally finally setting all of that aside, the SNES game is not ported in this?
The SNES game while it was an alternative version of the PCE game it was also the continuation and true ending of ROB that ties to the PSX game. Not packing in this game is just as worst as all of the pugly costumes they had for all the characters.

Speaking of the Saturn/PSX game. I hate, and I hate the fact the final boss is Dracula tied to an Alien. Literally it was just Alien, ( like from the film Aliens ). After seeing that thing in this game I just broke down. They could not even think of anything original so why not stick Alien in the end with Draculas corpse hanging out. This is why "Legacy" also is an terrible game ( in terms of Castlevania ). The games are great to play and all but they need to really refine the story.

Like setting the SOTN and Legacy ( re-written bs ) game aside. I do not really think they had much of any idea of what to do with the series. Since CV2 is actually the final and last game. Which is which is why ROB is the true successor with the SNES "Vampire Kiss" being it's continuation. The N64 games was done like an horror-movie and was decent. I just do not see the point of CV series going on like this anymore. The NDS/PS4 etc games are not the same CV games. It is like letting an child lose with this game. They missed an perfect opportunity to bring back Belmont and cartoonish-ly hung him from an statue. All that was missing is him loosing his lunch through his pants. Just Belmont being done in like that sucks the heart of the series out of everybody. SOTN wrecked everything including the image of the N64 game. Just that Alien-Dracula makes me want to not even want to see it in my collection.

Like Megaman it has been left inside of an scrap dump or garage somewhere only to be reminded of in spirit.

Seriously spending $20 bucks is kinda sad for an pack-in that is unlock-able. The game is all over the net somewhere ( being popular ) as well. Some jerk from Asia area was trying to sell it as an special version ( which I checked out myself ).

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