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Topic: nintendo should charge more for vc games that are rare ("rare downloads")

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181. Posted:

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I'm happy to see Super Mario RPG Legend of the Seven Stars as a Club Nintendo reward, but I'm left wanting for another Square developed title. Of course I'm speaking of the first two Final Fantasy games bundled together in remastered goodness for the GBA.
In Dawn of Souls the graphics are heavily improved, the overall game rebalanced, and four entirely new dungeons are added. The magic system was also updated to be more like newer iterations in the Final Fantasy franchise. The game is such an improvement over the original NES version.

The Wii U is incredibly devoid of traditional role playing games. Monolith's X and Golden Sun(GBA) are on the way, but I don't think two titles are enough for avid RPG fans.
If Nintendo wants to honor its RPG ways of old I can see no better way than bringing the series synonymous with the genre to the virtual console. With so many action and platformer games on the Wii U I really think Dawn of Souls would bring some much needed diversity to the console's gaming library.
Bravely Default was a great game for the 3DS, but I don't want Nintendo and Square to stop there. Let me play as the original four heroes of light. I want to traverse Corneria, battle the dark knight Garland, and save the world from Chaos!

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KingMike

182. Posted:

"the overall game rebalanced" I agree the NES version was pretty challenging (though that may in part be because of bugs), but the GBA (and PSP, which I most recently played) is almost the opposite (at least the main game). It's hard not to be OP.

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8BitSamurai

183. Posted:

FX102A wrote:

On the off chance that the OP was actually being serious, whilst I wholly disagree as I believe even the rarest of games should be made available to those who want to play digitally.

They should only be available to them if @Ogo79 says they should be. He knows what's best.

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Or if I made an example for a flightsim, where's my £3 million?

@Ogo79 is getting around to paying you. Be patient.

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FX102A

184. Posted:

If Nintendo did a tiered pricing programme, the absolute most I would accept for rare titles would be approx £15, and even thats a stretch. £10 would probably be best.

At the end of the day, the fact that all we are getting is old code that has been tweaked and can be recreated an infinite number of times depreciates its value heavily regardless of the current asking price of its respective carts.

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185. Posted:

FX102A wrote:

If Nintendo did a tiered pricing programme, the absolute most I would accept for rare titles would be approx £15, and even thats a stretch. £10 would probably be best.

Why 15? I already bought Urban Champion from the OP for $100. I've played it for over over 9000 hours already so I'm sure I got my money's worth. And that game isn't even rare! Being rare would up the value even more. If they make the downloads "rare", that means everybody can be a collector. If they put the OP's face in the manuals, I'm sure people would pay even more for the "rare downloads"

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At the end of the day, the fact that all we are getting is old code that has been tweaked and can be recreated an infinite number of times depreciates its value heavily regardless of the current asking price of its respective carts.

If the OP puts his handsome blessing on the "rare downloads", nothing can depreciate the value.

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OdnetninAges

186. Posted:

Nintendo World Championships for $500... for the day pass. If you wan't to own the game fully, that'll come around to around $1,000,000, but that's only for the first Super Mario Bros. mini-game. If you want the other mini-games, that'll cost ya another $1,000,000 for each additional mini-game.

OP, I am in awe by your genius. We should all come together to make this a reality. Unified Nintendo Network accounts? Screw em. Cross-buy Virtual Console games for Wii U and 3DS? Who the hell wants those? Wii and Wii VC games playable on the GamePad by it acting as a Classic Controller? Most stupid, nonsensical idea I've ever heard. Flipnote Studio 3D? Nobody wants that anymore!

And I thought the Xbone DRM was next-gen genius!

And if this, on the off-chance, makes Nintendo go bankrupt and fail, OP's utter sexiness and extremely rare collection of video games will bring Nintendo back from the dead, all the time, for all teh times!!! This is the future of retro gaming as we know it!!!!

We're sitting on a goldmine here, folks!!!!!!!!! :D

This is a terrible idea.

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187. Posted:

FX102A wrote:

If Nintendo did a tiered pricing programme, the absolute most I would accept for rare titles would be approx £15, and even thats a stretch. £10 would probably be best.

At the end of the day, the fact that all we are getting is old code that has been tweaked and can be recreated an infinite number of times depreciates its value heavily regardless of the current asking price of its respective carts.

Other companies get away with this for ports. Why can't Nintendo?

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Ryno

188. Posted:

I think a great way to kick off this program would be to hold the sexiest gamer contest. Obviously, @ogo79 would win and @the_shpydar would come in second but I think it would still provide Nintendo with amazing publicity that all the money in the world just could not buy (and therefore they need this "rare download" program) and that they desperately need otherwise they are pretty much doomed.

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8BitSamurai

189. Posted:

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I think a great way to kick off this program would be to hold the sexiest gamer contest. Obviously, @ogo79 would win and @the_shpydar would come in second but I think it would still provide Nintendo with amazing publicity that all the money in the world just could not buy (and therefore they need this "rare download" program) and that they desperately need otherwise they are pretty much doomed.

This idea is so great that I think Bill Gates and Kaz will defect when they read this.

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mamp

190. Posted:

But doesn't the fact that it's downloadable and it can pretty much be bought by anyone since it's technically unlimited copies kinda take away the rarity of the game. I mean rare just means it's hard to obtain right?

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MuchoMochi

191. Posted:

Who in their right mind would buy a digital copy of a game for 100+? Like honestly that's just crazy.

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8BitSamurai

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mamp wrote:

But doesn't the fact that it's downloadable and it can pretty much be bought by anyone since it's technically unlimited copies kinda take away the rarity of the game. I mean rare just means it's hard to obtain right?

8BitSamurai wrote:

If the OP puts his handsome blessing on the "rare downloads", nothing can depreciate the value.

MuchoMochi wrote:

Who in their right mind would buy a digital copy of a game for 100+? Like honestly that's just crazy.

Well, we're not really talking the $100, we're trying to shoot for closer to $250+. I've already bought 25 Wii U's so I can buy EarthBound 25 times so I could pretend I paid $250 for it.

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193. Posted:

mamp wrote:

But doesn't the fact that it's downloadable and it can pretty much be bought by anyone since it's technically unlimited copies kinda take away the rarity of the game. I mean rare just means it's hard to obtain right?

no one ever said some of the downloads wouldnt be limited, thats a great idea and we are currently working on this.
you may get charged just for trying to download it after it has been "out of print", it would be taken as theft, you attempted to get something you are not allowed to. the penalty for trying to download a rare game that we have decided to cancel (and is only under the possession of the people whom made it in time to download) would double the amount of the said attempted download. in other words, you would be trying to depreciate value of the virtual collectors games.

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We're sitting on a goldmine here, folks!!!!!!!!! :D

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the_shpydar wrote:
As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
And yes, he is (usually) always right, and he is (almost) the sexiest gamer out there (not counting me) ;)

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MAB

194. Posted:

I can see how this plan would work for Genesis games or anything SEGA related... Nintendo games should come in a big bundle for free ;)

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WaLzgi

195. Posted:

mamp wrote:

But doesn't the fact that it's downloadable and it can pretty much be bought by anyone since it's technically unlimited copies kinda take away the rarity of the game. I mean rare just means it's hard to obtain right?

By this logic, games should be 99 cents. If only there was some platform with so many of these games...

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196. Posted:

This is a professional idea from a professional gamer! I've got Iwata on the line right now. He thinks it'd be a good idea to release rare, Japanese-only games as well and maintain the equivalent price in U.S. dollars, but you'd still have to pay in yen. Could make a bit of extra money once Nintendo releases eshop cards that add yen to the eshop. Of course they'd be a bit more expensive than their equivalent US brothers. They could also sell a little translating guide to aide you in playing the games. Iwata is on to something here! We can be true collectors, getting not only rare games release in the U.S., but games released only in Japan as well! Nintendo would reel in the ca$h and WiiU will finally rise from it's grave! :O

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197. Posted:

if this happened, there'd be more reason for fans to leave Nintendo, and how is upping the price of old games gonna make people want Wii U's, to spend more money? Don't be stupid!

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the_shpydar

198. Posted:

Ryno wrote:

I think a great way to kick off this program would be to hold the sexiest gamer contest. Obviously, @ogo79 would win and @the_shpydar would come in second but I think it would still provide Nintendo with amazing publicity that all the money in the world just could not buy (and therefore they need this "rare download" program) and that they desperately need otherwise they are pretty much doomed.

I fully support and endorse this idea. :*

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if this happened, there'd be more reason for fans to leave Nintendo, and how is upping the price of old games gonna make people want Wii U's, to spend more money? Don't be stupid!

Oh, the irony is so delicious. Just like lobster tails from Golden Corral. :D

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199. Posted:

OdnetninAges wrote:

Nintendo World Championships for $500... for the day pass. If you wan't to own the game fully, that'll come around to around $1,000,000, but that's only for the first Super Mario Bros. mini-game. If you want the other mini-games, that'll cost ya another $1,000,000 for each additional mini-game.

But the last REAL sale of an NWC gray cart was only $17k. (not that faker who bid 99k on ebay and said his 2-year did it)

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8BitSamurai

200. Posted:

This just in... RARE DOWNLOADS CONFIRMED! EarthBound will be $200 starting April 1, 2014! We've finally done it!

http://kotaku.com/RARE-DOWNLOADS-CONFIRMED-IWATA-SAYS-1553897220

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