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DarthNocturnal

I think the swearing in Mother 3's fan translation was the "fan" part creeping through. I don't mean that in a bad way. But Nintendo is far more selective where cussing is concerned. I think Kumatora just had a rough way of talking, which the translators decided to interpret as being a bit of a potty mouth. Although it was the mild stuff.

Aside perhaps from the Magypsies, I can't think of anything else that would make Mother 3 go over a T, or even E10. (Edit: Sans that cut boss content...that would be... yeah).

I was a little surprised that Earthbound was T... it was rated K-A (the now defunct "Kids to Adults") back in the day. E10 I can see.

As for Beginnings... the strip joint thing was probably enough. Overall, it's a rather mild game however.

If they want a localization challenge, they should check out Fire Emblem 4. Now THAT would be hard to work around.

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SKTTR

Yes, we all need a bit of this:

Go support EarthBound Beginnings on Wii U to make it happen faster!

At first I thought it wasn't as great as EarthBound and Mother 3, but now that I'm 20 hours into it I love it just as much.
And it looks great in HD, way more charming than on the original hardware or an emu.

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jump

Does anyone else find the choice of Beginnings as annoying for a name? I don't know why but it justr seems cheap and slapped on and I know it's a silly thing to complain about.

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DarthNocturnal

In an alternate universe, Beginnings was the chosen fan title, and when released by Nintendo, it became Earthbound Zero. And in that universe... people will still complain =P.

Kidding (or am I?) aside, Beginnings seems fitting, as it is the starting point of the Mother / Earthbound trilogy. Plus, it doesn't affect how fun the game is.

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StableInvadeel

Maybe it should've been Earthbound Begins.

Then the snes one can be renamed Earthbound The Dark Kinght.

And the GBA one can be Earthbound The Dark Knight Rises when it finally releases here.

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DarthNocturnal

Earthbound: A New Hope

Earthbound: Giygas Strikes Back (....wait a minute...)

Earthbound: Return of the Porky

After that, J.J. Abrams takes over, and the fanbase revolts.

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Barely_Able

arronishere wrote:

Does anyone else find the choice of Beginnings as annoying for a name? I don't know why but it justr seems cheap and slapped on and I know it's a silly thing to complain about.

What else are they supposed to call it? The game was originally going to be called earthbound, but they transferred that over to the SNES version. Earthbound Zero would make more sense, but might be associated with the ROM. This also allows Nintendo to make people think this is a prequel rather than it essentially being the original idea that was perfected in Earthbound.

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DarthNocturnal

Barely_Able wrote:

This also allows Nintendo to make people think this is a prequel rather than it essentially being the original idea that was perfected in Earthbound.

....it IS a prequel. All of the Mother games are connected plot-wise. It isn't to the extent that you need to have played an earlier game to understand a later one, but it is there.

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jump

Barely_Able wrote:

arronishere wrote:

Does anyone else find the choice of Beginnings as annoying for a name? I don't know why but it justr seems cheap and slapped on and I know it's a silly thing to complain about.

What else are they supposed to call it? The game was originally going to be called earthbound, but they transferred that over to the SNES version. Earthbound Zero would make more sense, but might be associated with the ROM. This also allows Nintendo to make people think this is a prequel rather than it essentially being the original idea that was perfected in Earthbound.

Mother and Earhbound Zero sound fine, it's more the use and sound of beginnings to me as it lacks a ring to it

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DarthNocturnal wrote:

Barely_Able wrote:

This also allows Nintendo to make people think this is a prequel rather than it essentially being the original idea that was perfected in Earthbound.

....it IS a prequel. All of the Mother games are connected plot-wise. It isn't to the extent that you need to have played an earlier game to understand a later one, but it is there.

Techinally it's not a prequel, a prequel is a story created after the original narrative but set before it storywise.

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StableInvadeel

Well, for us is kinda like a prequel, since it's technically the newest game in the Earthbound series.

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DarthNocturnal

Pretty sure prequel just means that plot-wise, it's before something else in a timeline. I don't recall any rule about a prequel needing to be made after it's sequel. That's kinda silly.

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jump

DarthNocturnal wrote:

Pretty sure prequel just means that plot-wise, it's before something else in a timeline. I don't recall any rule about a prequel needing to be made after it's sequel. That's kinda silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Prequel A prequel is a literary, dramatic, or filmic work whose story precedes that of a previous work,[1][2] by focusing on events that occur before the original narrative.[3] A prequel is a work that forms part of a back-story to the preceding work.

All "prequels" are, by definition, essentially sequels in that they "expand on a previous or preceding work."[4] The term is a 20th-century neologism that is a portmanteau of the prefix "pre-" (from Latin prae, "before") and "sequel".[1][2]

Like sequels, prequels may or may not concern the same plot as the work from which they are derived. Often, they explain the background which led to the events in the original, but sometimes the connections are not as explicit. Sometimes, prequels play on the fact that the audience knows what will happen next, using deliberate references to create dramatic irony.

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Short version:

A "prequel" is a sequel that chronologically takes place before a previous entry in a franchise.

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DarthNocturnal

Huh... well played... I guess. But the general use of the word (at least from what I've seen) seems to go with what I said. Tell the average someone that Earthbound Beginnings isn't the "prequel" to Earthbound, and they'll assume there's no connection period. Which is misleading.

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jump

DarthNocturnal wrote:

Huh... well played... I guess. But the general use of the word (at least from what I've seen) seems to go with what I said. Tell the average someone that Earthbound Beginnings isn't the "prequel" to Earthbound, and they'll assume there's no connection period. Which is misleading.

I'd think they'd more likely be confused by you not simply saying it's the first game in the series.

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DarthNocturnal

I'd say the confusion would be the same, but meh. I feel at this point, we're just splitting hairs.

Also, there's a small part of me that's dissappointed that they just dumped the prototype. I was thinking that Nintendo might finally consider localizing formerly Japan-only games. Imagine if we got Binding Blade, to tie in with Roy's release.

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nacho_chicken

EarthBound Beginnings wrote:

  • OK...But, I was
    thinking of going
    to sleep now.
  • I've SAVEd your
    progress, so far.
  • Good night.

> Continue

  • Just like your
    Mom, you never
    want to stop.

Untitled
On a serious note, this is why overly literal translations (E.G. the prototype one in EarthBound Beginnings) are a bad thing. The original text read something like "You like to work hard, just like your mom."

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nacho_chicken wrote:

EarthBound%20Beginnings wrote:

  • OK...But, I was
    thinking of going
    to sleep now.
  • I've SAVEd your
    progress, so far.
  • Good night.

> Continue

  • Just like your
    Mom, you never
    want to stop.

Untitled
On a serious note, this is why overly literal translations (E.G. the prototype one in EarthBound Beginnings) are a bad thing. The original text read something like "You like to work hard, just like your mom."

That's not much better though tbh..
There'll always be someone who's going to manage to read some kind of innuendo into that kinda stuff. It's not bothering me personally, but I still have to agree with you. Literal translations aren't always the best way to do it.

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