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unrandomsam

Nintendo would hate it if they couldn't sell a slightly enhanced version at full price in a few years. They don't want to make things better than they were.

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No, I'm just exercising logic. If not, I'd be one disappointed gamer after reading things around here about 4 screen GBA multiplayer being a sure thing on the Wii U once those downloads rolled out, dual gamepad support being a shoe-in for Mario Kart 8, etc (Those sound familiar? ).

Where dual gamepad multiplayer is concerned, they talked about it as being an option in the weeks leading up to release and then afterwards for a short while, with nothing said since that amounts of much. So there sure doesn't appear to be any reason to hold out hope. Of course it could happen, but we're talking about its chances and it sure doesn't appear good.

I know, but they can add in support for anything, anytime they want or can. Pikmin 3 got touch controls like a year after it came out. Miiverse showed up on 3DS, 2.5 years after they said it would happen. That's just what Nintendo does. I'm not hoping or holding my breath for it, as much as being aware that it is always a possibility.

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Jazzer94

I can't see dual gamepads happening still.

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Jazzer94 wrote:

I can't see dual gamepads happening still.

Well, then you aren't thinking far enough ahead or something. They could show it at E3 with NX or something. That is how this stuff works, bro. Anything can happen at any time, with that time being more likely at E3 like the Balance Board just randomly showing up one year. Dual gamepad support is actually something they would probably more likely reveal at an E3. It's speculation about stuff we already know is possible.

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Jazzer94 wrote:

I can't see dual gamepads happening still.

Well, then you aren't thinking far enough ahead or something. They could show it at E3 with NX or something. That is how this stuff works, bro. Anything can happen at any time, with that time being more likely at E3 like the Balance Board just randomly showing up one year. Dual gamepad support is actually something they would probably more likely reveal at an E3. It's speculation about stuff we already know is possible.

They never confirmed it was coming like 64 and DS VC, they only every mentioned having an interest in trying to implement it potentially in the future. Another thing is the fact they never commented on having it working etc so we have no idea performance wise how feasible the idea ever truly was, so possible maybe (can't know for certain)but satisfactory level possible again is another question again we don't know either but given the length of time I'd say they probably dropped the idea if they ever got it off the ground.

Edit: also people aren't talking about the feature in relation to the NX only Wii U.

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Ya, but even a 3rd party publisher mentioned dual GamePad support at 2011 E3 for being used on 2 games at once. It was obviously a big thing to talk about, and it hasn't happened. Maybe NX makes it happen. It's just speculation that keeps growing. Some people don't even think GCN VC will show up, and it was mentioned just as much as dual GamePad support, so either think it will happen based on that, or don't think it will happen at all. It being said at all makes it likely, IMO.

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unrandomsam

They must have had it working or they wouldn't have mentioned that it was probably limited to 30fps without lots of work.

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They must have had it working or they wouldn't have mentioned that it was probably limited to 30fps without lots of work.

When did they mention that as i can't remember that, though it has been 2+ years.

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SCRAPPER392

That's why I'm saying NX might make it happen. The GamePad is running via local wifi, pretty much, and maybe NX has stuff in it to connect more GamePads while still supplying processing power wirelessly.

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SCAR392 wrote:

That's why I'm saying NX might make it happen. The GamePad is running via local wifi, pretty much, and maybe NX has stuff in it to connect more GamePads while still supplying processing power wirelessly.

Again I'm and from reading the thread everyone else is talking about the Wii U, sure its fine to speculate about what future hardware can do but that wasn't the point being made.

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SCRAPPER392

Ya, well the only possible way VC MK DS multiplayer would work, is if 3DS systems and maybe even possibly DS systems with MK DS were all hooked up. Otherwise, if you were to task Wii U with running 8 copies of MK DS, then that's 16 screens to process.

That's where the connection to NX would make sense, if it actually had that hardware.

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Mk_II

It's simple... the servers for all online DS games have been shut down some time ago. Nintendo is not going to fire them up again for the unlucky few who will buy those games on the Virtual Console.

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Mk_II wrote:

It's simple... the servers for all online DS games have been shut down some time ago. Nintendo is not going to fire them up again for the unlucky few who will buy those games on the Virtual Console.

It's always possible that they could just let MK DS hook up to Nintendo Network. Nintendo WiFi was a completely different server, and most of the reason why they got rid of, was because of it being part of a deal with some other company. That's also why I'm saying, too, though, that even Nintendo DS phats from 2004 with the game could still technically connect to Nintendo Network and play against VC versions of the game if they really wanted to do that.

That's why I agree that they will not make that happen, because it would make older games and systems relevant again. They are basically making original cartridge copies useless, even though they are technically relevant through VC now. That is how it is more complicated than people seem to realize. From a realistic standpoint, stuff is still up to date in some ways that should make them compatible, but that's just what happens from generation to generation, period. It's like how Xbox 360 and PS3 games aren't running on Xbox One and PS4. They can. but it's not programmed, servers are involved, etc.

At some point, people just have to let go, IMO. Same thing goes for Windows XP and other stuff like this. If they ever do make something like that work, then kudos, but all things considered, there is a line to draw that needs to be understood if that's how things are.

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unrandomsam

The actual gameplay is peer to peer it only used servers for match making that is why 3rd party hacks exist to keep the online working. (And for nearly every game).

(That Nintendo couldn't sort that with a very small amount of effort is not something I believe for a second).

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unrandomsam wrote:

The actual gameplay is peer to peer it only used servers for match making that is why 3rd party hacks exist to keep the online working. (And for nearly every game).

(That Nintendo couldn't sort that with a very small amount of effort is not something I believe for a second).

That may be true, but again, now you are potentially including Nintendo DS phats from 2004. It's always possible they could add online, but they could just as easily refuse for whatever reasons they may have. MK DS on DS is almost just as relevant as the VC version.

They would need bigger servers and might need to program other stuff for it to happen. We really don't know all the details, and that's how it always is, which is why it's impossible to say they can for sure.

They aren't even getting local multiplayer going, as it is, and a lot of it has to do with the account system allowing crossplay. Asking for online to be added to that is another task on top of an already existing one. It would be like asking for Metal Gear Solid 3 on PS3 to have the online modes. Even Sony and Microsoft aren't doing the type of stuff people are asking from Nintendo, and they(MS and Sony) are supposedly more savvy or some s***. Catch my drift?

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Atariboy

Personally, even if I were to download this (I don't think I will, since it looks much better on the small screen), I don't mind online multiplayer being absent.

Not only did I not care for the limited nature of it where certain tracks were locked out, but I hated snaking. I could manage it, but my hands quickly would cramp up when trying to keep it up, so it wasn't any fun.

I don't see the Wii U gamepad being any better suited for my hands where MKDS snaking is concerned, so I'd of stuck with the single player modes regardless.

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