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kkslider5552000

81. Posted:

MAddogz wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

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Reggie or Iwata said something about there will be games for wii, even when the WiiU will be out.

I'll believe it when I see it.

actually, no, somehow they'll be right. Even if it's just nothing more than shovelware, TECHNICALLY, they'll be correct. But we'll see if this means any more than that.

Just look at the 3DS is out since early this year and they are still releasing good games for the DS.
Can't wait for Solotarobo: the Red Hunter coming out on 1st of July ^^
NA is getting it sometime later too.
Why should NoA not do the same with the Wii when the WiiU launches???

DS wasn't pratically abandoned a year and a half before the 3DS came out. I mean, you could certainly be right, but I'm personally not gonna believe it until games are confirmed to be released after Wii U's launch.

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82. Posted:

@KKslider Dragon quest X is out in Japan next year and considering how long it took for DQIX to make it to the west, I wouldn't be surprised if the wii U is out by the time DQX launches in the west.

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83. Posted:

Just saying, be faithful...

Nintendo wants to promote their two new Zelda's at the moment. If that it is done, there is time to promote other stuff before the WiiU arrives.

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@Burny I highly doubt the wii U will release before next years e3. If they revealed as much about it at e3 as they did for the 3DS at last years e3, then that might be believable but with the amount of information that they revealed about it, I don't think its likely that the wii U will launch until Q3 or Q4 2012.

It's very unlikely, but not impossible. They revealed about the same amount of information about it as they did with the 3DS - minus actual Nintendo games. A full reveal with actual games at next year's E3 might still benefit them. One way or another, it seems they'll not wait for Q4 2012 to release and Sega's comments indicate a summer release. Every month they lose, they do themselves a disservice. They've got Darksiders 2 and Arkham City etc. on board, but if the WiiU versions don't release the same time as the other versions of those games, the WiiU versions are send to die. That's probably not what Nintendo wants to achieve.

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as massive as, starting the advertising after shipping Zelda, while releasing them same time as WiiU, so u still have good games for Wii, for those who can't buy the system on launch.

Maybe the US is seeing it sometime March - July 2012...

Are you seriously fooling yourself into thinking NoA will start advertising for a JRPG without "Final Fantasy" in its name that didn't even reach 200k sold copies in Japan? Even worse, as great as the worlds design is, texture quality up close is horrible - likely due to the world's scale. The character design is too japanese for it's own sake, too. It's not exactly a photogenic game viewed up close. Every other Mii-centric game looks cleaner in screenshots and videos. These factors all rule out a marketing campaign targeted at the average Joe.

They had no trouble announcing other large games at E3 so far, if they were going to be released within a year's time. That's what E3 is there for: getting press coverage for your upcoming games. They won't get a better opportunity to show off the game before next June. The only reason not to get the word out at this E3, was that the game isn't coming.

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85. Posted:

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Burny wrote:

@Burny I highly doubt the wii U will release before next years e3. If they revealed as much about it at e3 as they did for the 3DS at last years e3, then that might be believable but with the amount of information that they revealed about it, I don't think its likely that the wii U will launch until Q3 or Q4 2012.

It's very unlikely, but not impossible. They revealed about the same amount of information about it as they did with the 3DS - minus actual Nintendo games. A full reveal with actual games at next year's E3 might still benefit them. One way or another, it seems they'll not wait for Q4 2012 to release and Sega's comments indicate a summer release. Every month they lose, they do themselves a disservice. They've got Darksiders 2 and Arkham City etc. on board, but if the WiiU versions don't release the same time as the other versions of those games, the WiiU versions are send to die. That's probably not what Nintendo wants to achieve.

I disagree, they showed more of the 3DS at last years e3 than they did of the wii U at this years e3, especially in terms of games that were shown. By the end of last years e3, there were many quality first and third party 3DS exclusives to look forward to. The only wii U exclusive (not including demos) that was we saw footage or screenshots of was killer freaks from outer space which doesn't look as good as many of the 3DS games shown at last years e3.

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86. Posted:

Nintendo apparently has some sort of message on this if an IGN Twitter is to be believed. Doubt it will be anything big though (no matter how much has happened in 3 days, it's only been 3 days), unless they had already planned on announcing the game's release a bit after E3.

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Hardy83

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kkslider5552000 wrote:

Nintendo apparently has some sort of message on this if an IGN Twitter is to be believed. Doubt it will be anything big though (no matter how much has happened in 3 days, it's only been 3 days), unless they had already planned on announcing the game's release a bit after E3.

PR Poo is what I'm expecting.
Some BS like "We love fan enthusiasm on these games, and we are currently going to keep an eye on the European sales to determine any localization plans."
And then not do a thing. Mainly just say some carrot on the stick quote that totally kills the movement and make some people forget that Nintendo treats core gamers like crap.

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88. Posted:

I still think Xenoblade Chronicles was going to launch in North America anyway, whether or not it gets announced in this IGN statement. We've seen proof before that it was being prepared for a North American release and I personally don't believe what one guy says, regardless of whether or not he's from Nintendo France. Until Nintendo of America flat out says "we have no plans to release this title" - something they have done with other titles and would do with Xenoblade Chronicles if it were the case - I will expect it to launch in North America in the future.

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I'd rather trade it in for fortune street.

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I hate the casual gaming vs. core gaming nonsense even now but this is just awesome.

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The funny thing about that gif is I honestly agree that the new Mario Party games are equivalent in quality to a street vendor hot dog. Even though the MP games sell for 10-40 times higher.

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@above Agreed. Mario party should have been canned after the Third... but moving on to topic.

I've watched the videos with the British voice acting, and even just after a few of those I know this game is gold. Just feels like something new (but of course I know it's not really that new, everything is some sort of a knockoff nowadays) But ugh! I need some more good Jrpgs in my life...

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94. Posted:

Here are some videos of Xenoblade chronicles in English. This game looks so awesome and it seems refreshing to have British voice actors in a jrpg.

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FonistofCruxis

95. Posted:

A canadian retailer called video game plus is supporting operation rainfall by putting up Xenoblade chronicles, The last story and Pandora's tower for pre-order so that fans can show nintendo how much they want these games.

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mariofanatic128 wrote:

A canadian retailer called video game plus is supporting operation rainfall by putting up Xenoblade chronicles, The last story and Pandora's tower for pre-order so that fans can show nintendo how much they want these games.

I pre-order them on it, since, well, Amazon.ca sucks beyond all suck and has nothing listed.

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Some interesting translations from 2channel (Japanese discussion board, uh, partially full of trolls) about the controversy surrounding and the petition for the western release of Xenoblade:
Source: ezeliyn's translations on GameFAQs


"It'll be fun watching how Nintendo tries to sweep this aside."

"The Xeno series sells terribly in Japan anyway. They may as well release it."

"They should just release it. Do they not have the money and the confidence?"

"It's not as big a market as FPSs or TPSs, but there's definitely demand for JRPGs overseas, huh?"

"Why don't they give them it? I guess they're scared because the market there is just FPSs?"

"They're not going to release it now. The WiiU's coming out next year. Though I guess there's a chance that eventually they'll do an HD rerelease."

"There are no Japanese games like this for the PS3. It's all just games for anime otaku."

"Why don't they just release it on the WiiU? They could do up the graphics too, since they were the game's weak point."

"It's being released in Europe, isn't it?"

"Well it WAS a really fun game. I want them to do a WiiU sequel in HD, without cutting corners in the amount of content."

"I'm not gonna let you say that Xenoblade's crap story was any different to the average JRPG's." (response to the guy talking about the PS3's library)

"They're not releasing it there!? I guess it must be because it's a pain to localise."

"Apparently Monolith are developing a game for the WiiU." (response to the guy asking for a WiiU sequel)

"It's 'cause it's the number one RPG on home consoles. Release it there already."

"With countries abroad, it's all about violence and grittiness. It's all grizzled men shooting guns and stuff, and the worlds are all so similar that anyone would get sick of it. The key to Japan's strength is in games like Mario Kart and JRPGs, which don't make concessions to foreigners, and remain fancy, with a unique Japanese flavour, conjuring up an atmosphere that foreign companies cannot emulate. (Games like Kirby's Epic Yarn)

Xenoblade is the peak of the JRPG genre, and a combination of all of its best elements. It takes the failed experiments of games like The Last Story* and Crystal Bearers and executes them flawlessly, becoming almost a work of art. Though Crystal Bearers had great music.

Every element of Xenoblade's production, from its music, to its scenery, to the flow of its battles is carried out to first rate standards, and it's of a quality that most of the half-assed RPGs of recent years can't even touch.

Though to be perfectly honest, I'd rather see Regenliev released overseas. That's the game that truly realises the potential of the Wii's controller, and it's a gem that made me feel as if I was playing something truly new for the first time in years. It says a lot about how worthless Nintendo are that it didn't sell."

"They're already doing an English localisation for the European market, so they should just release it as is. I really love the game, so I want to hear lots of people's opinions on it."

"I feel like it might be better for them to hold off until the holiday season than to push it right now, though."

"They're taking it that far? Nintendo fanboys sure are passionate."

"Xenoblade and Pandora's are all fine and well, but don't bother with Last Story."

"Now that I think about it, what do American Wii gamers play, anyway? It's not like there's a lot of games aimed at core gamers to begin with. To be honest, though, this is probably just a couple of people making a big fuss, so I reckon it's the right decision not to release it. Those who really want to play it can just learn Japanese and play the Japanese version. There are a lot of people in Asia who do that."

"I guess they're pissed because it's already been announced for release in Europe and there's still no word on the US release, even though it was first revealed there."

"I get a laugh out of how worked up these Nintendo fanboys get. Guess it's 'cause they don't have anything to play?"


Interesting comments about The Last Story and the western love for gritty shooters. :P Also the whole "they can just learn Japanese" thing, haha.

To corroborate the Xenoblade and The Last Story reactions, The Last Story is getting somewhat mixed, mostly positive rev... (average 3.5 stars) on Amazon.co.jp, while Xenoblade is getting a majority of top scores (average 4.5 stars). Interesting, since I originally thought Xenoblade would end up the weaker offering of the two.

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98. Posted:

HolyMackerel wrote:

Some interesting translations from 2channel (Japanese discussion board, uh, partially full of trolls) about the controversy surrounding and the petition for the western release of Xenoblade:
Source: ezeliyn's translations on GameFAQs

"With countries abroad, it's all about violence and grittiness. It's all grizzled men shooting guns and stuff, and the worlds are all so similar that anyone would get sick of it. The key to Japan's strength is in games like Mario Kart and JRPGs, which don't make concessions to foreigners, and remain fancy, with a unique Japanese flavour, conjuring up an atmosphere that foreign companies cannot emulate. (Games like Kirby's Epic Yarn)

Did that guy just imply that no one gets sick of Nintendo rehashing the Mushroom Kingdom? Or that there isn't enough post apocalyptic fantasy/sci-fi JRPG bull$#!t floating around out there to make any veteran gamer groan? I think he's a little confused about what Japan's strengths are. He's right about Epic Yarn though. It's a kid's game but it's brilliant.

HolyMackerel wrote:

To corroborate the Xenoblade and The Last Story reactions, The Last Story is getting somewhat mixed, mostly positive rev... (average 3.5 stars) on Amazon.co.jp, while Xenoblade is getting a majority of top scores (average 4.5 stars). Interesting, since I originally thought Xenoblade would end up the weaker offering of the two. It generally seems to be regarded as one of the best, if not the best, JRPGs of this console generation.

That might not mean much considering how popular the Dragon Quest series has been over there in the past despite how awful it was until just recently.

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99. Posted:

Gamesake wrote:

HolyMackerel wrote:

Some interesting translations from 2channel (Japanese discussion board, uh, partially full of trolls) about the controversy surrounding and the petition for the western release of Xenoblade:
Source: ezeliyn's translations on GameFAQs

"With countries abroad, it's all about violence and grittiness. It's all grizzled men shooting guns and stuff, and the worlds are all so similar that anyone would get sick of it. The key to Japan's strength is in games like Mario Kart and JRPGs, which don't make concessions to foreigners, and remain fancy, with a unique Japanese flavour, conjuring up an atmosphere that foreign companies cannot emulate. (Games like Kirby's Epic Yarn)

Did that guy just imply that no one gets sick of Nintendo rehashing the Mushroom Kingdom? Or that there isn't enough post apocalyptic fantasy/sci-fi JRPG bull$#!t floating around out there to make any veteran gamer groan? I think he's a little confused about what Japan's strengths are. He's right about Epic Yarn though. It's a kid's game but it's brilliant.

HolyMackerel wrote:

To corroborate the Xenoblade and The Last Story reactions, The Last Story is getting somewhat mixed, mostly positive rev... (average 3.5 stars) on Amazon.co.jp, while Xenoblade is getting a majority of top scores (average 4.5 stars). Interesting, since I originally thought Xenoblade would end up the weaker offering of the two. It generally seems to be regarded as one of the best, if not the best, JRPGs of this console generation.

That might not mean much considering how popular the Dragon Quest series has been over there in the past despite how awful it was until just recently.

Meanwhile, that was all hilarious coming from you. 'Course, if it was anybody else, I'd be tempted to argue, but right now I'll just sit back and laugh.

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100. Posted:

Mickeymac wrote:

that was all hilarious coming from you. 'Course, if it was anybody else, I'd be tempted to argue, but right now I'll just sit back and laugh.

We both win then.

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