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61. Posted:

Hardy83 wrote:

This won't work guys. Reggie isn't a gamer, he's a marketer. He only cares about the money and making loads of it.

These games won't turn a profit, or won't turn one big enough to satisfy Reggie.

I swear. NoA when down the crapper when he took over. From a gamers perspective, not Nintendo's.

I have little hope that these games will be brought over regardless of what protests there are. THUS my only hope is that people remember this when the Wii U comes out and hit NoA where they do care. By not buying the Wii U.

This is a PR fail on NoAs part. E3 was them touting that core gamers can get a great experience with the Wii U, yet here we are in the present and Nintendo of America is treating them like garbage, and we're suppose to believe they wont' do this next generation? Please.

Don't buy the Wii U if these games aren't localized and tell as many people as possible not to buy it either. THEN they'll reconsider treating gamers like dirt when it comes to porting over good games as opposed to crap.

See, that's the thing. By that reasoning (that these games won't turn a profit), how do you explain the existence of publishers such as Aksys, Atlus and NISA? The fact is that they can be profitable — and quite frankly, Xenoblade and The Last Story are superior games to most of the JRPGs that those three release in North America. The problem with Nintendo is that they demand huge margins because they're such a large company, and most of their Wii audience does not want these games. They want Wii Play Motion. If handled correctly, this could be a successful endeavour for Nintendo; they just need to keep expectations in check, and invest in localization for what's important, without taking too much risk. For example, they could forgo dubbing these titles and merely license the Japanese dialogue. This may make it hard to market the game(s) to new customers, but existing fans will definitely purchase them under these conditions. The goal of this campaign is to prove to Nintendo that localizing these titles can be done without taking financial loss, and it would also go a long way to building loyalty and satisfaction within their customer base. It could succeed based on the returns from their hardcore fanbase alone, and without their expanded audience. By bringing the game to #1 bestseller status on Amazon, it goes a long way towards showing that this hardcore audience not only exists, but it's large enough to support niche hardcore titles like these.

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62. Posted:

@Zeeroid While many of the people that are already interested in these games wouldn't mind if these games were subbed and not dubbed, these games are more likely to attract people who don't already know of these games if there is dubbing.

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Hardy83

63. Posted:

I don't view these games as potential money makers. I said it was a PR mess for NoA because I think these games represent a PR moment for NoA.
Whether they turn a profit, or a big enough one for NoA is irrelevant to me.

Like I said, "core" gamers have been complaining about no games to keep them interested in the Wii, and when there are games, Nintendo of America doesn't port them. This time the fans have shown that they really want it, and NoA just ignores them.
I see this a PR issue because when the Wii U comes out, what is a consumer like us going to think?
"Well I like the Wii U but if it's just like the Wii and I'm going to be disappointing in the long run, why should I buy it? Why not get a Vita, or 360 or a new desktop? If Nintendo's core franchises warrant paying $250-$350 for this?"

I don't believe every game is made to make a profit, especially from huge companies like Nintendo. There are some games that should be made to keep fan loyalty high and keep the repeat software buyers from going to another system.
NoA doesn't value these consumers because they think the moms and grandparents money is more valuable, which it was, for the Wii hardware and some Nintendo software.

In the long run, with stupid marketing moves like not bringing these over. When Nintendo of America finds out not as many moms and old people are buying the Wii U as much as they did with the Wii, ,they'll try and turn to the very people that NoA is basically spitting on to save their hardware and software sales.
That's, again, where I hope games like us remember moments like this, and Earthbound 2, and Soma Bringer and Disaster Day of Crisis. Where we don't fall for NoA's fake promises and either go with another system or just hold out all together until Nintendo realizes that we're just as important as moms and old people and stop treating us like garbage.

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MAddogz

64. Posted:

Why is everyone complaining about not having Distaster: Day of Crisis???

I bought the game for 20€ and that's what it is worth for the gameplay I got. It seems good if u haven't played it. Especially the driving missions are really annoying. The voice acting seems from early TG-16 CD Games... Shooting is booring... Even on Hard the only tough sections are the driving sections.

It sucked like Cursed Mountain. Very interesting looking game, but as soon as u play u go like meh.... clumsy controls and the character movement is slower than a snail... These two games had big potential but gameplay ruined it. That's why the US didn't get those games!!!

I see the same thing happening like Terranigma or Shenmue II, when EU got those games but the US not. But those were actually amazing games, not mediocre.

But hey we Europeans missed out on alot of RPG's, even today. Where is Nostalgia or Radiant Historia for DS???

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MAddogz wrote:

Where is Nostalgia or Radiant Historia for DS???

Good news: Don't wait, just import! If you're willing to pay a tad bit more than for regular DS games, it's a non-issue. The DS, unlike the Wii, is region-free.

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Don't buy the Wii U if these games aren't localized and tell as many people as possible not to buy it either. THEN they'll reconsider treating gamers like dirt when it comes to porting over good games as opposed to crap.

Nice in theory, but as they rely on people's resolve, boycotts don't really work, nor would they do much good in this case, if they worked. A financially strained Nintendo isn't more likely to localize niche games which aren't guaranteed to turn a profit any more than a wealthy Nintendo. Not that something as Xenoblade enjoys even remotely enough interest to cause a boycott from the general public.

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66. Posted:

Nintendo's youtube is being attacked now. :D

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CanisWolfred

67. Posted:

This game is finally coming to the U.S.

Looks like Lz was right about that Monado hint all along. Sucks since it's a rediculously stupid name, but I'll pre-order it anyways. Before y'all get excited, I'd just like to mention that chances are Nintendo's been planning this for a long time, since they've had the domain for, like, ever.

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68. Posted:

If you guys want Xenoblade along with the last story and pandoras tower, join operation rainfall for a NA release date.

P.S. i heared Xenoblade is comig to NA, but that hasn't been confirmed yet.

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69. Posted:

Good to see all you Americans will be getting it, even if it is with the worse original name. Hopefully you'll get The last story too like we will be and hopefully Pandora's tower will get released in all western regions.

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Joetherocker

70. Posted:

That's not true, they've been sending out emails that Xenoblade would be releasing as Monado since it was announced at E3 2008. The CS reps are just saying that because the game was never cancelled. We need to stop people from posting that crap everywhere.

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71. Posted:

I for one am going to trust the Nintendo rep and continue to deplore this horrible spamming campaign you guys got running.

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72. Posted:

Mickeymac wrote:

This game is finally coming to the U.S.

Looks like Lz was right about that Monado hint all along. Sucks since it's a rediculously stupid name, but I'll pre-order it anyways. Before y'all get excited, I'd just like to mention that chances are Nintendo's been planning this for a long time, since they've had the domain for, like, ever.

Apparently, they gave similar answers when queried about Disaster before. Until there is a definite commitment to a release date or window, you have to assume the game isn't coming anymore.

The game has soon been out for a year. Europe is getting a localized version around September / October. NoA's Wii schedule is barren except for Skyward Sword, Kirby and... what else? Next year, possibly as early as May-June the WiiU is going to be released. If they actually were to release the game between now and next June, they could just as well put a date on it - Q1 2012, September 2011 - doesn't matter. If they don't, there is no reason to believe it's actually coming. It has been announced in some overlooked trailer at E3 2008? Great! Why then doesn't NoA have a clue as to when the game is actually getting released, almost a year after it has been finished and with an European release approaching? And if they have, why don't they even bother to just say when it's supposed to come?

Going by that, it's not coming to the US as of now.

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73. Posted:

Mickeymac wrote:

Looks like Lz was right about that Monado hint all along. Sucks since it's a rediculously stupid name, but I'll pre-order it anyways. Before y'all get excited, I'd just like to mention that chances are Nintendo's been planning this for a long time, since they've had the domain for, like, ever.

Interesting point, Nintendo only focuses on one project, then goes to the next project. Just how massive does NoA want to go with this game, if they don't want NoE showcasting the game on E³? NoE even had a special Iwata asks episode about the music in the game and they let european Club Nintendo users decide on an alternate artwork cover for the game, which imo looks gorgious...

http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/iwata/iwata_asks_xen...

http://microsite.nintendo-europe.com/xenoblade_results/index....

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MAddogz wrote:

Just how massive does NoA want to go with this game, if they don't want NoE showcasting the game on E³? NoE even had a special Iwata asks episode about the music in the game and they let european Club Nintendo users decide on an alternate artwork cover for the game, which imo looks gorgious...

As massive as... not releasing it at all most likely. If they wanted to get some coverage for the game out there, this E3 was the last time to do so. They have no trouble announcing games via their e3 site if they don't fit into the press conference or on the show floor.

The Iwata asks episode is about a year old (from around the release in Japan). NoE just published the translated version.

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75. Posted:

You guys are nuts.

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76. Posted:

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You guys are nuts.

YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!
DANG, DEPLOY IT NOW!

Some game up ahead! Looks different.
Crud! We were so close to Wii U!

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as massive as, starting the advertising after shipping Zelda, while releasing them same time as WiiU, so u still have good games for Wii, for those who can't buy the system on launch.

I am not sure which interview it was during E³ GT or IGN, but Reggie or Iwata said something about there will be games for wii, even when the WiiU will be out.

Maybe the US is seeing it sometime March - July 2012...

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@Burny I highly doubt the wii U will release before next years e3. If they revealed as much about it at e3 as they did for the 3DS at last years e3, then that might be believable but with the amount of information that they revealed about it, I don't think its likely that the wii U will launch until Q3 or Q4 2012.

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79. Posted:

MAddogz wrote:

Reggie or Iwata said something about there will be games for wii, even when the WiiU will be out.

I'll believe it when I see it.

actually, no, somehow they'll be right. Even if it's just nothing more than shovelware, TECHNICALLY, they'll be correct. But we'll see if this means any more than that.

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80. Posted:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

MAddogz wrote:

Reggie or Iwata said something about there will be games for wii, even when the WiiU will be out.

I'll believe it when I see it.

actually, no, somehow they'll be right. Even if it's just nothing more than shovelware, TECHNICALLY, they'll be correct. But we'll see if this means any more than that.

Just look at the 3DS is out since early this year and they are still releasing good games for the DS.
Can't wait for Solotarobo: the Red Hunter coming out on 1st of July ^^
NA is getting it sometime later too.
Why should NoA not do the same with the Wii when the WiiU launches???

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