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FonistofCruxis

341. Posted:

WaltzElf wrote:

mariofanatic128 wrote:

@Waltzelf Look at its metacritic, its been getting the same high level of praise from critics that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles too and some of the reviews that are highest up on the list of reviews for XBC on metacritic are from reviewers that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles.

Scores are meaningless in themselves, and I can't be bothered reading each and every review. The reviews I've read though suggest the critics fell in love more with the fact the game actually got a release in English, and the novelty that the Wii managed to play the game.

Once again: this is a standard JRPG with a combat system that isn't even that unique. I can reel off five JRPGs that are better and more innovative on the PS3, and another five that are as good as this one.

We can't have been reading the same reviews then but I'll just leave it at that rather than prolong this further.

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vonseux

342. Posted:

WaltzElf wrote:

the novelty that the Wii managed to play the game.

what does that mean?

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Faron

343. Posted:

Bah, this beats every RPG on PS3, jrpg or western.

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CanisWolfred

344. Posted:

WaltzElf wrote:

mariofanatic128 wrote:

@Waltzelf Look at its metacritic, its been getting the same high level of praise from critics that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles too and some of the reviews that are highest up on the list of reviews for XBC on metacritic are from reviewers that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles.

Scores are meaningless in themselves, and I can't be bothered reading each and every review. The reviews I've read though suggest the critics fell in love more with the fact the game actually got a release in English, and the novelty that the Wii managed to play the game.

Once again: this is a standard JRPG with a combat system that isn't even that unique. I can reel off five JRPGs that are better and more innovative on the PS3, and another five that are as good as this one.

Combat alone doesn't make an RPG, as you should very well know. The combat is fine on it's own, but it's the littler things and the sense of scale in the world and the story that makes it great.

That's what I got out of the reviews, at least.

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345. Posted:

Mickeymac wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

mariofanatic128 wrote:

@Waltzelf Look at its metacritic, its been getting the same high level of praise from critics that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles too and some of the reviews that are highest up on the list of reviews for XBC on metacritic are from reviewers that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles.

Scores are meaningless in themselves, and I can't be bothered reading each and every review. The reviews I've read though suggest the critics fell in love more with the fact the game actually got a release in English, and the novelty that the Wii managed to play the game.

Once again: this is a standard JRPG with a combat system that isn't even that unique. I can reel off five JRPGs that are better and more innovative on the PS3, and another five that are as good as this one.

Combat alone doesn't make an RPG, as you should very well know. The combat is fine on it's own, but it's the littler things and the sense of scale in the world and the story that makes it great.

That's what I got out of the reviews, at least.

As I said. The world scale and the story are also nothing you can't see in 10 other PS3 games.

And the game is far too combat heavy if combat doesn't "make the RPG."

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346. Posted:

WaltzElf wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

mariofanatic128 wrote:

@Waltzelf Look at its metacritic, its been getting the same high level of praise from critics that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles too and some of the reviews that are highest up on the list of reviews for XBC on metacritic are from reviewers that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles.

Scores are meaningless in themselves, and I can't be bothered reading each and every review. The reviews I've read though suggest the critics fell in love more with the fact the game actually got a release in English, and the novelty that the Wii managed to play the game.

Once again: this is a standard JRPG with a combat system that isn't even that unique. I can reel off five JRPGs that are better and more innovative on the PS3, and another five that are as good as this one.

Combat alone doesn't make an RPG, as you should very well know. The combat is fine on it's own, but it's the littler things and the sense of scale in the world and the story that makes it great.

That's what I got out of the reviews, at least.

As I said. The world scale and the story are also nothing you can't see in 10 other PS3 games.

And the game is far too combat heavy if combat doesn't "make the RPG."

And chances are most of those games don't have the other qualities that make this game so enjoyable. This is the same argument I get into when I talk about Chrono Trigger: Yes some of its elements appeared in other games, but it's the fact that all of these some together to make a brilliant experience that makes it so great.

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347. Posted:

Mickeymac wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

mariofanatic128 wrote:

@Waltzelf Look at its metacritic, its been getting the same high level of praise from critics that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles too and some of the reviews that are highest up on the list of reviews for XBC on metacritic are from reviewers that don't exclusively cover games on Nintendo consoles.

Scores are meaningless in themselves, and I can't be bothered reading each and every review. The reviews I've read though suggest the critics fell in love more with the fact the game actually got a release in English, and the novelty that the Wii managed to play the game.

Once again: this is a standard JRPG with a combat system that isn't even that unique. I can reel off five JRPGs that are better and more innovative on the PS3, and another five that are as good as this one.

Combat alone doesn't make an RPG, as you should very well know. The combat is fine on it's own, but it's the littler things and the sense of scale in the world and the story that makes it great.

That's what I got out of the reviews, at least.

As I said. The world scale and the story are also nothing you can't see in 10 other PS3 games.

And the game is far too combat heavy if combat doesn't "make the RPG."

And chances are most of those games don't have the other qualities that make this game so enjoyable. This is the same argument I get into when I talk about Chrono Trigger: Yes some of its elements appeared in other games, but it's the fact that all of these some together to make a brilliant experience that makes it so great.

Something really magical must happen later down the track, then, because I've yet to see what the heck is in this game that deserves 9/10s.

And if something magical does happen later down the track, than the fact I've played the game for 30 hours means that Final Fantasy XIII has finally been beaten as the game that takes the longest to get going.

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CanisWolfred

348. Posted:

I'll just say that you're the only person I've met who isn't impressed with this game, out of my real-life friends and the 5 forums I frequent. Take that for what you will.

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349. Posted:

Mickeymac wrote:

I'll just say that you're the only person I've met who isn't impressed with this game, out of my real-life friends and the 5 forums I frequent. Take that for what you will.

Impressed? Yes. Greatest thing since sliced bread? No.

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350. Posted:

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the story that makes it great.

"Evil robbot killed my girlfriend - destroy them all with my magic sword"

*Am I the only to think the story here is the most simplistic and maniqueist? Really! Arc Rise Fantasia has better story than fighting an evil robot called Metal Face

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351. Posted:

vonseux wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

the story that makes it great.

"Evil robbot killed my girlfriend - destroy them all with my magic sword"

*Am I the only to think the story here is the most simplistic and maniqueist? Really! Arc Rise Fantasia has better story than fighting an evil robot called Metal Face

You should play the game through before commenting the story. You could make absolutely any story sound bad by saying it like you did. Xenoblade's world is made of two great titans. Isn't that original? The story is rarely cheesy and well executed. The execution of any story is more important than the story itself. That's why most Zelda games have such an epic feel to them- not because their stories are original, but because they are so well made.

Also, chasing metal face is just part of the story. The real central theme is solving the mystery of Bionis and Mechonis.

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352. Posted:

vonseux wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

the story that makes it great.

"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX magic sword"

*Am I the only to think the story here is the most simplistic and maniqueist? Really! Arc Rise Fantasia has better story than fighting an evil robot called Metal Face

Jeez! This is the second time I've had to ask someone to please remove that spoiler.

@Faron , you too please (in your quote of Vonseux). For the sake of the American gamers who may yet play this game.

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353. Posted:

vonseux wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

the story that makes it great.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX magic sword"

*Am I the only to think the story here is the most simplistic and maniqueist? Really! Arc Rise Fantasia has better story than fighting an evil robot called Metal Face

I don't think you should judge the games story so early on. Some rpgs have stories which start out okay but get a lot better as the game goes along so I don't think you should jump to conclusions on the story of an rpg so quickly, especially when its a really long one like this one. A prime example of this to me would be Tales of Symphonia (my favourite game of all time) as the story of that game starts out just decent but gets significantly better later on and just keeps getting better and becomes a game with a fantastic storyline. Although, while I have seen others who enjoyed that games story as much as I did, I have seen a few people who didn't like it but not many.

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354. Posted:

mariofanatic128 wrote:

vonseux wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

the story that makes it great.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX magic sword"

*Am I the only to think the story here is the most simplistic and maniqueist? Really! Arc Rise Fantasia has better story than fighting an evil robot called Metal Face

I don't think you should judge the games story so early on. Some rpgs have stories which start out okay but get a lot better as the game goes along so I don't think you should jump to conclusions on the story of an rpg so quickly, especially when its a really long one like this one. A prime example of this to me would be Tales of Symphonia (my favourite game of all time) as the story of that game starts out just decent but gets significantly better later on and just keeps getting better and becomes a game with a fantastic storyline. Although, while I have seen others who enjoyed that games story as much as I did, I have seen a few people who didn't like it but not many.

Darn tooting! Xenoblade has a pretty interesting story. But I don't want to dwell on it, because I sincerely don't want to spoil a thing for anyone who happens on this thread, looking for general thought on the game.

Thanks for masking the spoiler in your reply, @mariofanatic128 .

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355. Posted:

The story is good.

Stating that "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX magic sword" shows that you have only scratched the surface of the game (or, if you have played more than 10 hours, you didn't understand what you played). That's just the sparkle that starts the fire, a platform to launch the adventure. Very soon the characters start to question that very intention and the plot takes a totally different turn.

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Henmii

356. Posted:

I think it's time for me to chime in: The game is really impressive! It's very hard to get into with the fighting system and all (that's why I am not such a big rpg fan, with the exception of the Mario and Luigi and the Paper Mario series. + I do like real-time battles more. Like the way it is in the Zelda games, for example), but stick with it and it pulls you in! I have already played it for more then 30 hours and I feel like I have just seen a small portion of the game. The world is gigantic, with almost no loading times, no invisible walls. If you see something you can get there, so it has massive freedom. And your Wii doesn't rattle either, it all goes silky smooth. The battles are fun, but the best part is the exploration. Graphics are around the Twilight princess/Monster hunter 3 level, wich seems to be the maximum for realistic graphics on the Wii. Voice-acting is good. And so is the music! I also like that the enemies only attack when you choose to attack them (with the exception of some enemies). But at the same time: What did those creatures do wrong? The Mechon are the true enemies, not the monsters!

And there is a gigantic village with many people you can talk to and help out. All with their own problems. All with their own day rhythms (think of Majora's mask. It also has a day/night system). It's great fun!

This will keep me going for a long time!

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357. Posted:

I heard that some people here in America actually got a copy of Monado,because somehow a handful accidentally got shipped out to a few stores :o
All I have to say is I'm happy for those of you who were fortunate enough to get a copy ;)

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358. Posted:

My wii has returned so I was able to get back to this epic game today!

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359. Posted:

"I heard that some people here in America actually got a copy of Monado,because somehow a handful accidentally got shipped out to a few stores :o
All I have to say is I'm happy for those of you who were fortunate enough to get a copy ;)"

I didn't hear this, but if this is true I am also happy for them!

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360. Posted:

Rukiafan wrote:

I heard that some people here in America actually got a copy of Monado,because somehow a handful accidentally got shipped out to a few stores :o
All I have to say is I'm happy for those of you who were fortunate enough to get a copy ;)

Even if they did, it wouldn't matter because it's region-coded

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