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edhe

theblackdragon wrote:

@edhe: That award was from the judge/jury combo. The family did not specify amounts in their filing.

Should I change "which stops people making such exorbitant legal claims" with "which stops courts awarding such exorbitant settlements"? I fail to see how the courts arrived at that conclusion...

I sympathise with the family totally, which might not have come across in the previous post, but that was on the understanding they specified that amount in their case.

[Also, Britain too is beginning to adopt the compensation culture - for several years now, Injury claim adverts (reminding people that if they trip and break their ankle, someone is DEFINITELY to blame) have sprung up on their televisions. It isn't just an American thing, although I doubt any court in Britain would award a family more that £200 000 for negligence. I'm probably wrong.]

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@edhe: yes, that change would work. :3

Sometimes I wonder if the courts make decisions on amounts expecting the defendants to appeal down the line, though, so they award high knowing that it'll settle onto some mid-range number that they really feel is appropriate in the situation, but they don't want to just award that number because they know it'll have an appeal filed against it and be reduced further... i dunno. :/

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edhe wrote:

. I'm sure they're sad for their loss, but never mind. They're multi-millionaires now.

Yes, never mind about the loss. Becasuse all of that money will bring the kids mother and the husbands wife back. I'm sure once they got the money they tossed the urn in the trash, yelled "F*ck Yeah!!" And tore off in new sports cars.

Regarding this whole case, it really doesn't matter about about anything other than proving liability. The radio station knew about the risk, which wasn't properly passed onto the contestants. This was compounded by the lack of monitering the contestants throughout. If a nurse had been circulating, checking vitals every 10 minutes or so and yanking anyone whom was in bad shape (like they should have) this could have been avoided. Guilt through inaction is just as bad as guilt through action in a case like this.

If there's a risk of the contest you're doing having even a small risk of killing someone, you damn well better have more than some vague waiver to cover yourself.

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edhe

The+Fox wrote:

edhe wrote:

. I'm sure they're sad for their loss, but never mind. They're multi-millionaires now.

Yes, never mind about the loss. Becasuse all of that money will bring the kids mother and the husbands wife back. I'm sure once they got the money they tossed the urn in the trash, yelled "F*ck Yeah!!" And tore off in new sports cars.

I was being facetious. I hope you realise that.

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I will not get into who is at fault here as it has already been discussed enough, I do agree however that the amount of money awarded to the family is extortionate. I understand there is no value for a life but as mentioned before there are plenty of people who lose family due to others negligence and they receive nothing or very little in the way of compensation. Why should the circumstances a person died in, and the media coverage it receives affect the amount of compensation a family receives. There should be figures in place depending on the size of a family and the age of any dependants that determines the amount of compensation all family's should receive if they lose a loved one due to someone else's negligence.

Somebody stated before "How would you feel if it was your wife that had died", well it can also be said how would you feel if your wife had died and somebody else was at fault, and you received nothing in the way of compensation, and then you read this story.

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Sylverstone wrote:

At least now she can rest in peace.... with a Wii, I suppose.

She didn't even win the Wii. She came in second, and got a pair of Justin Timberlake tickets as a consolation prize. though i suppose they could buy a Wii with some of the money once they get their first installment...

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So if there was an eating contest and someone died of choking, who's responsible? The person running the contest or the person who shoved too much food into their mouths?

This is what's wrong with our country today. Nobody wishes to take on reprocussions for their own actions. It's always someone elses fault. Man up people and realize that YOU ARE TO BLAME! If there's nobody forcing the issue guess what? You can always say NO!

I attended an eating contest when I was a kid. We had to eat a watermelon slice and whoever did it fastest won a $25 Toysrus gift card. I find it funny that if maybe I would've choked to death on some watermelon, maybe my mom could've sued the place for millions. Darn it!

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Vendetta

Grey, we share the same sensibilities on the matter, but this particular case has some nuance insofar as water intoxication is a more subtle risk than choking. If one of those contestants in the Nathan's hotdog eating contest gets jammed up, then someone whacks him on the back, makes him toss his lunch and calls it a day.

With drinking so much water, there is a risk of toxicity that is not easily remedied before it's too late.

This is why my arguments earlier were predicated on the contestants' having knowledge and understanding of the risks and warning signs, and the availability of medical assistance should the onset of symptoms occur. If any of these were willfully withheld, then, yes, I believe strongly that the contest organizers are culpable. As for the monetary value of the damages, I leave that to the courts to decide, even I believe they are excessive.

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greyelephant

Understood.

I still stick to my guns though.

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theblackdragon wrote:

Sylverstone wrote:

At least now she can rest in peace.... with a Wii, I suppose.

She didn't even win the Wii. She came in second, and got a pair of Justin Timberlake tickets as a consolation prize.

Cheez, dying or Justin Timberlake. Not many options there, huh?

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@Burning Spear: i could make a joke about preferring death to a Justin Timberlake concert anyway, but it would be in poor taste and I'm sure we're both above that.

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jbrodack

Yeah the money awarded is excessive but I don't see why people would get all upset over that when there is so much other stuff that is upsetting - including the fact that someone had to die from a stupid radio contest. I mean if someone only got a minor injury and got millions of dollars I could see being jealous but when someone lost a family member I couldn't see that.

Most people aren't really aware of the water toxicity thing since actual deaths due to it are such a rarity. I've only even seen this issue even come up maybe 2 other times in my life. It seems like such an absurd thing that someone would actually die from what seems like a harmless thing.
However, once they djs were warned that the contest could result in death they should have actually tried to look into it or someone should have questioned continuing. The fact that they laughed it off and said they couldn't get sued is kinda sickening. They were fired but they (and possibly other radio employees) should have gotten criminal charges.

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greyelephant wrote:

So if there was an eating contest and someone died of choking, who's responsible? The person running the contest or the person who shoved too much food into their mouths?

This is what's wrong with our country today. Nobody wishes to take on reprocussions for their own actions. It's always someone elses fault. Man up people and realize that YOU ARE TO BLAME! If there's nobody forcing the issue guess what? You can always say NO!

I attended an eating contest when I was a kid. We had to eat a watermelon slice and whoever did it fastest won a $25 Toysrus gift card. I find it funny that if maybe I would've choked to death on some watermelon, maybe my mom could've sued the place for millions. Darn it!

Too much trivialization of this event. The last thing approaching an appropriate comparison is "choking to death in an eating contest". Choking is understood as a threat in such a contest, and most eating contests have people on hand in case something like this happens. However, explain to me why the contest holders wouldn't be held responsible if they didn't try to stop him from choking?

I hate people who focus entirely on personal responsibility and throw corporate responsibility to the side.

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New+Age+Retro+Hippie wrote:

I hate people who focus entirely on personal responsibility and throw corporate responsibility to the side.

Hate, Hippie? Really? What happened to peace and love - or did they go the way of personal responsibility, too?

C'mon, you can't blame this one squarely on "the man" just as I can't pin it solely on the woman. There's enough culpability to share between them (though I still take heart in the many who had enough good sense and responsibility to neither compete nor die in this ill-conceived contest).

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Machu

Whilst the radio station were guilty of creating an idiotic and dangerous competition, the lady in question took part willingly. Nobody forced her to do it, it was a conscious decision made by no-one but herself. There shouldn't have been any damages awarded, never mind the obscene amount that was.

Rawr!

jbrodack

to the people talking about personal responsibility: you do realize that dead people can't take responsibility right? Plus, I don't expect family member to take pot shots at the dead and be like "yeah she was stupid for doing that contest its all her fault"

In any case someone who makes a contest has a responsibility to make it safe for contestants, and in the event it is not safe inform contestants of the possible dangers. Plus if someone is warned that people could die (as the djs were) I would think they have a moral obligation to at the very least inform the contestants at that point of the dangers of continuing.

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By the way, the topic title is a bit disturbing. They "made" 16 million? Wouldn't awarded be more appropiate?

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