Whether I like or dislike these games is irrelevant, and I am certainly not looking for vindication here. The purpose of this thread is to look at the features which make the SSB series unique and to discuss if these features make the game better or worse than it could be.

One can find deep things to discuss on almost any topic, including this one, if one looks hard enough. Forums are a place for discussion, not silencing.

If you wanted to discuss the things that make the game unique then the title is misleading.

Smash is h-core, and it sounds to me like you have no skillz man did you cry?!?

A bold and unique fighting system is why its had 2 sequels and will no-doubt get another (which i shall buy and hurt my hands completing).
I'd love to show you some of the fights you can have when you get skilled opponents together, its frenetic but controlled throughout, with a sense of speed and hilarity that will always bring me back for more.
I'd just juggle ur whining ass and spank you outta there, then taunt.

I hereby pass the flames, to the next offended Nintendoid! Enjoy

This man speaks the truth! I didn't like the bad word though, no offense.

There are combos in the game. Go to youtube for combo videos. Whats wrong with falling off the stage? There is a stage buidler...

I play and love both competitive Brawl and SFIV. They're just different games, and have their own charm and complexity.

The Soul Caliburs and recent Mortal Kombats had this and not many people complained, as far as I know.

Quite a few GameCube "proper" fighters had special moves mapped to the C-stick...

In Smash, it's possible to do combos, but you'll have to be quick.

At the end of the day, it's very clear that Edwin doesn't like Smash Bros, and that's fair enough: I don't like Pokemon, for instance.

Simplification of attacks is the absolute best thing Smash Brothers has done. Why more fighters don't follow suit is beyond me. Having to memorize long strings of commands only makes a game much less accessible. I hate trying to play Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter with a friend and then having to constantly pause so he can look up the moves. But it's not his fault. If he doesn't do this, he is at a huge disadvantage because of the way the game is designed. More games should just have a special move button like Smash. The memorization of commands isn't a skill. It doesn't make anyone better than anyone else. It is just a pointless barrier of entry.

You're crazy! The features you suggested are what makes the game what it is, and it is a rather excellent game as well, might I add.

Well yes it is a barrier of entry, I'll give you that. However, the ability to memorize commands and recall them later at an appropriate time with a combination of hand-eye coordination is definitely a skill.

I agree that it's annoying for people to pause and check their moves. They should do that before or after the fight, not during it.

Tekken is a button smasher, SSB is for skilled players.

Super Smash Bros. Is to fighting games as mario kart is to racing games; you can't really compare them to other games in their genre. They're basically unique.

Falling off of stages is completely due to preference.

Attacks are simple, but mobility is greatly increased. It's just unique, and not your thing, there definitely is lots of room to include more attacks and such.

I think its great how you can fall off. It adds strategy. Once you get to a certain point you're pretty much guaranteed to get knocked off with any little attack but knowing the right moves to use in any situation definitely helps. Falling off the map is essential to the game play of ssb I don't get how you could call that a flaw. And I don't understand the people that think that because the moves are easy to do that that's a flaw either. I hate how in almost every fighter each character has a different set of moves to master. Then I end up just using one character unless i feel like trying to remember another characters entire move list. With smash I can do random select if I want and still have fun but it takes a lot of practice with each character to master them. Smash is easy to learn but hard to master. That's what makes it so great. /Thread