if games on the Wii had been releaced like this: launch: Zelda/Wii Sports early 2007: Paper Mario late 2007: Super Mario Galaxy early 2008: Smash Bros/Mario Kart late 2008: Metriod Prime Corruption early 2009: Animal Crossing/Wii Sports Resort late 2009: New SMB Wii
would we still be complaining about lack of quality first party Wii titles? because IRL they did this launch: Zelda/Wii Sports early 2007: ?? late 2007: Super Mario Galaxy/Paper Mario/Metriod Prime Corruption early 2008: Smash Bros/Mario Kart late 2008: Animal Crossing early 2009: ?? late 2009: New SMB Wii/Wii Sports Resort the Wii has plenty of games....... it just let them out early
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by Nintendo this generation. I'm glad that they're at top and that they're rolling in the cash, but...I can't shake this feeling either. Outside of Super Mario Galaxy and maybe Punch-Out!!, all the first party Wii titles have been pretty underwhelming in my estimation, and there's still a couple of key Ninty franchise that have yet to even had a sequel announced, F-Zero being the most painful in my case.
Of course, I have no idea if's truly just laziness or something else, but it all ends at the same place for me: disappointment. tbh, without the VC, I doubt my Wii would get turned on more than once a week, which is sad but the truth.
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Read this a couple of hours ago, and I think that the Nintendo Team of IGN is getting paid by Microsoft/Sony to trash the Wii. First it was "TEH WII NEDS TEH ACHEEVMINTS!1!!1" now it's "NINTIENDOH IS TEH LAZIE BTARDS!!111!1"? I just don't get it. The ONLY reason (other than money) they would make articles like those is because the IGN fanboys won't STFU about stupid Wii things, and so they're (IGN) trying to say (without making it obvious) "We get it! NOW SHUT UP!!!"
As for my opinion on the whole "Does Nintendo care?" thing, let me put it simply; Nintendo cares. The problem is that most of us are spoiled by so much Nintendo that we demand a new hardcore title every half-year. I will admit that some games are a bit lazy of now (Why did we need "New Play Control" games?), but Nintendo is trying to balance hardcore, avid fanboys with casual, sane people. Most times that doesn't work at all, but here Nintendo has managed to break boundaries and keep sane and non-sane people happy at the same time. I'm-a gonna say that's-a winner in my book.
EDIT: I left out one important part of my argument; the two Wii articles were written by people on the Nintendo Team of IGN that had already accepted the fact that the Wii was underpowered and that achievements were useless.
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IGN is spot on in this article. Like I mentioned in other threads, would it be so hard for Nintendo to just change the two generic toads in Toad and Toadette? That's just lazy.
The Wii is also less powerful then the XBOX360 and PS3 from a technical point of view. But it also managed to produce and sell it cheaper and incorporate motion controls and with this reaching a whole new audience.
Unfortunately there aren't many games that can reach the full potential of the Wii and that results in crappy games with low grades and that give the Wii a bad name with all the shovelware.
And take the Mii's. When you create them, there aren't many options. I love the cartoony look of the Mii's and wouldn't want to lose that for a more realistic look, but just a different hairstyle, extra type of glasses would all be an easy or welcome addition.
And sure Nintendo strikes gold when they reach the new audiences with Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Sport Resort and Wii Music and because of good advertisement New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart and Super Mario Galaxy. But that's no excuse for leaving old franchises alone. Some which didn't get a new game since the NES era, why not make a new game in that serie? At the E3 of 2008, everbody was hyped up for a possible return of Kid Icarus. And why not? He was in brawl, he looked awesome in brawl, one small step to get him back in a new platformer. Instead we get Wii Music.
The New Play Control is disappointing too. It's basically the GameCube title with motion control. Sure the games are still fun (most of them), but why not add extra features. It take a bit more effort, you reach newcomers and the old fans would love them for it. They choose the easy way out.
I even want to go further back. Let's go to the GBA. Nintendo released NES classics. That's a fantastic idea. But they released one classic per cartridge. Is there any reason why multiple games couldn't fit on one cartridge? Or why not give them a graphical update. Gameplay wise it was solid, but the games would be more appealing with some updated graphics and audio. But no. Straight ports, nothing changed, nothing added and an easy way to make a quick buck on past successes.
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The article was good and made good sense and observations regardless if it was from IGN or any other source. The article wasn't an all-out Nintendo bashing fest, though the comments on the article are another story (which isn't the fault of IGN). I like Nintendo but anyone who is 100% satisfied with Nintendo's handling of their products (Wii, Wiiware, Virtual Console, online support, community support, etc.) this generation is lying to themselves. Nintendo still cares and are loyal to their fans but they are indeed lazy sometimes.
If being insanely smart business wise, and creating extremely innovative consoles is now labeled as 'lazy', then I want to be called lazy too. If Nintendo didn't care, then why the hell did they try so hard to impress at this year's E3? It's easy to sit back in your cushioned office chair and rant about this and that and complain that Nintendo is lazy, but seriously, constantly trying to please a fanbase by creating game after game is lazy? Where have I been?
An underdog team wins the championship. Everybody roots for them and think they are great. The next year the team wins again. Some people think the team is becoming a bit old. The next year comes and guess what? They win again! Now everybody hates them because they're not that little giant that they loved so very much the first time that they won. Now they are a dynasty! Now everyone wishes them to lose so they can root for the next underdog team to win it all. Everyone love an underdog.
The Wii's been sucessful for many years now. People raved about it the first few and now have tired. Why? The Wiii has become a dynasty amongst gaming and they know it. They want the next big thing not this familiar face that keeps winning year after year.
Personally, I think IGN made some very valid points. This is coming from a guy who just bought is 2nd Wii so he can have one for upstairs as well.
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@Sneaker I don't understand your argument. You're complaining about things like Nintendo not giving Miis enough hairstyles and making direct ports of classic games and this means that Nintendo doesn't care about us? Most people don't want their classic games to be touched; give me the game, as close to the original as possible. And Nintendo never needed to give us Miis in the first place, and you're complaining about lack of hairstyles... Just because games don't reach the Wii's potential doesn't mean Nintendo is lazy. Nintendo's output has been the high quality it's always been. It's third parties that are making games that don't reach its potential. Besides that, the best games on a console often come near the end of its life, after developers have had time to get a feel for the hardware. You can't use arguments like "old, long-forgotten franchises aren't being resurrected" as grounds for Nintendo being lazy, nor can you say third-party developers' inability to make quality games means Nintendo doesn't care about us.
Read what lord_vynos said in the comments on this article. It's 100% true.
Luigi is basically a palette swap of Mario, and no one complains about him. Mario, Mario 3, Mario World... yes, they're older games, but Mario 2 USA differentiated the plumbers in look and play, so it's not like they couldn't have made him look different and/or control different in other games, too. But no, let's say Mario 3 was lazy because there were two nearly identical characters, nevermind that it was the best selling game of its time and clearly a lot of love went into it.
I would love to see Peach out of the damsel in distress role, but if we're going to call Nintendo lazy and say they don't care about their old fans, just casuals, pointing to a game that is essentially a love letter to Nintendo's long time fans and pointing out the most minor complaint possible isn't much of a case against the company.
I'd certainly like to see a more steady stream of first-party titles (first-party titles that long-time fans care about, that is), but 2010 has already corrected this just by announced games alone -- who knows what surprises will be added to the release list on top of that, too. So Nintendo had a slow year, oh well, the game industry as a whole did. PS3 finished off the year with a bit of a bigger bang with Demon's Souls, Uncharted, and Modern Warfare, but I wouldn't trade NSMB for all three of them, personally.
I think what IGN seems to forget as well is that there's a certain "charm" to playing an old school type of Super Mario game on the Wii. This is Super Mario on steroids compared to the NES version. They simply wanted to do the NES version for the 2000's. I've no problem with that.
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