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Topic: My Nintendo faith is really waivering for the first time. Is it just me?

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Ren

I've been into video games since the days of atari 2600 (I'm over 30), and ever since the NES I have been a super, die-hard Nintendo guy. With each new system I buy at launch even when I have few friends that play vids at all, my soft spot for Nintendo has never waned.

I dove on the Super NES and drooled over the FX chip games. I defended the slow releases of N64 greats due to designer constraints. I almost caved on a PS2, but then sold it when the Gamecube released, despite the bore of Luigis mansion (I liked Sunshine, though, just got it again), and then I got bored and busy when the cube games became few and far between again and stopped with gaming for a few years until I heard about the Wii. They did it again! It blew my mind! The motion controls! The cautious innovation centered approach to a console had me hooked for the few good games I have time to play. Now I got the 3DS and it's really cool, but kind of premature. the online is still on hold; not even a dsi shop, and a weak launch line up has me waiting for something to play.

I started picking up some adventures that I never finished or played on Gamecube and I'm having good old adventure fun again (Chibi-Robo, Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, even shudder Starfox Adventures).

I've been getting those silly Game Informer magazines, which are surprisingly well written by the way. I quickly flip through it for nintendo reviews/ updates and there's nothing I haven't seen online already, if anything at all. I feel disappointment with the lack of Nintendo because I know it's not born of unfair bias! There IS no new Nintendo. it almost feels like the 3DS already came and went! It was launched with no meaty adventure to hold me; just the promise of things to come. (I got pilotwings and streetfighter, and while fun there no adventure to speak of)

Now that I flip through the other pages I see scores of reviews for games that look like amazing, photo realistic adventures of all kinds, even whimsical creative adventures like Rayman: Rennaisance, Portal games, all kinds of violent, futuristic stuff, where I can't tell what are game screen shots and what are cutscenes. They are all in HD and look like unbelievable, immersive fun. I have a 65 inch 1080p TV and a nice stereo and I'm playing games that look like VHS movies of 80's cartoons; Madworld was neat looking for about 10 minutes before the enemies started repeating over and over and the lack of story got really stale. No More heroes was fun, but ended fast and there's not much else like it on Wii, then there's Mario Galaxy which is cool, but now what?
Now the hot news is that a new HD Nintendo is on the way, in - what?- a year and a half MAYBE? For the first time, I'm thinking that maybe Micheal Pachter was right when he said Nintendo missed their window. Right now, or even this holiday season would have been perfect to dive into the HD market, because I don't think I want to wait that long for what everyone else already has. I think I'm going to do it and save a few bucks for an X-Bo.... an X... I can't even say it. but those HD games just look like so much fun. Am I a traitor or does anyone else feel this way? If I do that as a 'sister' console, how do I know it won't get the red ring thing; are used ones too risky? Is that still a gamble or has it been worked out in the brand new ones? Is anyone else sick of waiting and ready to get in on the fun that other kids seem to be having?

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Bleh games on other systems don't interest me. I ♥ the games Nintendo brings when they bring them and once the 3DS handheld really kicks off I will enjoy the flood of RPGs that is going to come

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theblackdragon

i've never understood limiting yourself due to brand loyalty. if you want to play games on another console, buy that console and play the hell out of 'em — you're only punishing yourself if you've got the disposable income and the desire and yet you continue to deny yourself something that you obviously want, y'know? :3

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Splat

I haven't lost faith in Nintendo but I have in the Wii as much as I love the Wii if it ain't dead it can atleast see the light.

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Odnetnin

First of all, having "faith" in Nintendo (or any company) is silly. Buy their products if/when you like them, don't buy their products if you're not interested in them. There's no need to be "loyal" to them or buy their products.

I'm buying a decent gaming computer this year so that I can take advantage of all of the amazing, almost always on-sale/cheap, original, innovative, artistic, atmospheric, and just plain fun games on Steam, many of which can't be found on Nintendo systems (certainly not for the same price or feature set). This purchase kind of kills any chance of me getting Project Cafe at launch, but because I'm so happy with what's going on over on PC I don't care.

Bottom line is Nintendo's behind the technological curve (and I'm not just talking about pretty graphics). They still make some of the best games around, yes, but I daresay there's equally good stuff coming from other developers. This isn't a bad thing. Nintendo's not losing its grip on awesomeness; rather, brand new, fantastic developers are amazing too. Nobody loses in this situation as long as everyone plays whatever they enjoy and disregards the fanboy "competition" that says there's only room for one gaming company.

So maybe Nintendo isn't for you. They're not declining or anything, maybe they're just not making games that appeal to you anymore. All that means is you should find a platform that looks awesome and dive right into that. I promise you'll have a blast.

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brooks83

What's wrong with having two consoles at once if you can afford it? Get yourself an Xbox to go along with your Wii and play all the HD games, and when a game comes out for the Wii that interests you you can play it too. Nobody is going to think you are a Nintendo traitor (and even if they do, who cares?) for having a console that isn't made by Nintendo.

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Sounds like you should just buy an XBOX.

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theblackdragon wrote:

i've never understood limiting yourself due to brand loyalty. if you want to play games on another console, buy that console and play the hell out of 'em — you're only punishing yourself if you've got the disposable income and the desire and yet you continue to deny yourself something that you obviously want, y'know? :3

I agree. I've owned every Nintendo home console, but only as a secondary system--there really are things that the others do that Nintendon't.

Pandalicious wrote:

First of all, having "faith" in Nintendo (or any company) is silly. Buy their products if/when you like them, don't buy their products if you're not interested in them. There's no need to be "loyal" to them or buy their products.

I'm buying a decent gaming computer this year so that I can take advantage of all of the amazing, almost always on-sale/cheap, original, innovative, artistic, atmospheric, and just plain fun games on Steam, many of which can't be found on Nintendo systems (certainly not for the same price or feature set).

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TheBaconator

I'm feeling the same about almost everything you've said, (Only I'm a much younger gamer) I used to be all Nintendo all the time and now I've been playing the HD systems much, much more than my Wii, mainly because I'm a fan of fighters which are essentially non-existent on the Wii.
Also, I think that everything that plays amazing on the Wii still feels outdated due to poor graphics and lack of features, online, etc. And Super Mario Galaxy does look amazing, there's no denying that, but every time I play it I just think of how amazing it would look on an HD console. Have you ever played Sonic Unleashed on the 360? Well, if you haven't it is a beautiful looking game. I hate the Werehog and the way the game is set up, but the music and pretty graphics have me coming back just so I can look at/listen to it again.
Last I hate waiting, too, but I'd rather wait for the console to come out with ALL the features unlike the 3DS which now serves as a regular DS and something to put my TV remote on top of. I am also revisiting Gamecube games that I never really got into at the time of their release to hold me over for the new. I just picked up about 10 used ones yesterday at Gamestop for around $40.
And I here ya when you say Nintendo is missing all there opportunities. I mean, they waited a tad too long on the 3DS's release and about a month before it goes on sale, here comes the NPG to one-up it and steal paying costumers away. They can absolutely not afford to not release this "Project Cafe" next year in my opinion, because I have a feeling if they wait too long, their hardware is going to be one-upped again by the next-gen Microsoft/Sony systems.
But owning one system and complaining about the lack of features seems a bit off to me. If you really are that loyal and cannot bear to go against Nintendo by buying another system when you are capable of doing so, you really shouldn't complain about anything they are doing.

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Kid_A wrote:

The grass is always greener.

I painted my grass red because I hate that saying.

Anyways, I doubt it's just you. The Wii may have sold the most this generation, but that hardly makes it the best. I felt like this generation of gaming was incredibly boring when I only had a Wii, but when I bought a PS3 I totally flipped my thoughts around. I've had some of the most fun with video games I've ever had this console generation now.

I think the bottom line is, try something new. Branch out. At the worst you'll re-affirm that Nintendo is the only one to stick by. And there's a really good chance you'll find some amazing experiences on a new system.

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JebbyDeringer

I bought a 32" 1080p LED HDTV a couple weeks ago and have my PC hooked up running games in true 1080p (not 720p upscaled like 95% of the current console games). It looks stunning. This combined with a wireless 360 controller is great especially while lying in bed.

I've had an HDTV since 2004 and actually the reason I bought the first Xbox and not a Gamecube because the Xbox had decent widescreen support & some 720p/1080i games. Resolution is the biggest issue of the Wii. I don't mind simple graphics with a nice art style but pushing non-native low resolution content on to a high resolution display doesn't flatter. This is one of the reasons I still keep an old 14" RGB monitor around because old games actually look really really good running in their native 240p resolution. I do appreciate the fact many Wii games can maintain 60fps while the Xbox 360 & PS3 often push the hardware so hard they often slip under 30fps.

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Splat

I can't afford to get a 360 or a PS3 right now or I would have one in a heart beat. That is not a knock on the Wii it's just that they offer somethings that they Wii doesn't just like the Wii offers things they don't. Like others have said nothing wrong with branching out and having more then one system under the roof.

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OverlordMao

Personally, I have more PS1 and PS2 games than I do Gamecube and Wii games, but I have a nice balance going on. I love my Wii and PS2 so much as they've lasted me through the many years and have provided me with so many memories. Heck, I have more virtual console games than anything (36 VC and Wiiware games total) While I've never been loyal to a company, I know for a fact that anything made by Microsoft is just not right for me. My best friend has an Xbox 360 and I play games with him all the time, but the controller feels so awkward to me. I'm a straightforward type of guy but I've never limited myself to new experiences.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that you're just a fool if you're going to diss what other gamers like and enjoy just by being a crazed fanboy. Gamers are gamers, regardless of the type or personality, and we love what we play, plain and simple

P.S. I've been playing games since 1996 when I was 2 years old. Using my Game Boy and my bro's PS1, so I've always been a mixed Nintendo/Sony gamer

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Corbs

Buy the systems you want and play the games you want to play. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Let everyone else take care of everyone else.

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The_Fox

As others have said, go multi-console if you can afford it. No reason depriving yourself just for the sake of Nintendo.

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Knux

Why limit yourself due to brand loyalty? It does not make sense. Buy a 360, PS3, or PSP and enjoy the great games each console or handheld has to offer.

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kkslider5552000

some tl;dr but...

1. If you can't find good games for Nintendo systems, you haven't looked hard enough (...well Wii's kinda sucked so far this year admittedly). Just look at the favorite overlooked games thread, you'll probably find like lots of great games just for Wii.
2. Game Informer is horrible. Maybe well written horrible, but still horrible. I need to find that Mario Sports Mix review they did, I remember it being so unintentionally hilarious, and I'm not even a huge fan of the game. (and let's not forget the only reason why Metroid Prime (1) couldn't get a 10. "NO SPINNY JUMP".)
3. Being super biased with one console tends to be bad. I'm one of the bigger Nintendo defenders out there and even I have a 360 and enjoy it a lot. That being said, at least for me, only 1/2 of the "great, must-have" games are actually that good or even close for the 360. The fact that I think reviewers overrated 360 games too much and underrate Wii games at times is entirely because of my opinion, not because of being some fanboy. ,,,actually, even when I was sort of a Nintendo fanboy I still loved playing games for other systems. Some early launch titles for Xbox and lots of PS1 platformers etc. Great stuff.
4. My problems with Nintendo right now come from a combination of the hypocritical "core gamer" mentality that Nintendo likely unintentionally created, the many problems from everyone involved with and everyone who ignored any actual good 3rd party games and their constant introduction of new hardware and add-ons every few months that are always a waste of money unless you wait a year or two or five. I also hate to be "that guy" but the obvious decrease in interest by consumers of anything that isn't an M rated, likely western developed game unless it's 1st party Nintendo. Yes, I realize most of this is problems with consumers but Nintendo did in some way lead to creating these problems or making them worse.

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