I definitely see what you're saying. I just felt like you were saying that any time any Nintendo game get's a bad review every fanboy starts whining. I was saying, that's not true. Because there's a good deal of Metroid fans here who are really intrigued by the negative reviews.

Back on topic, though, I'm trying to beat Super Metroid by Tuesday when Other M releases. Got to the Wrecked Ship today so I just picked up the Gravity Suit...and now I totally forget what to do next

@Kid_A: Get to da choppah! Maridia...

no one's complaining much about any reviews except the one from g4, which really is sh*t. it goes beyond just fanboying over a low score. _{(whining and crying in 3, 2, 1...)}

deducting points because samus happens to be taking orders from a man is just stupid; he's their commanding officer. the male team members follow his lead just the same as samus... they're his soldiers, that's how the military works. samus places herself under his control voluntarily to prove a point about respect for command, not because he (as a man) holds dominion over her. ms. heppe obviously went off the deep end and got hypercritical for reasons i don't understand.

i tried watching her explanation video and it just made things worse. she talks about samus not sounding like a strong leader, as if a loner who spends all her time away from other humans is supposed to. then she attributes samus' weak delivery to sexism even though she flat out says that she understands it's really due to her detached nature.

every step of the way she understands that samus' difficulty interacting with others is due to her being so alien to the human race itself, not simply because she's 'weak-willed as a woman', so why does she still insist otherwise? it seems like she wasn't happy with samus' character being anything but a one dimensional bada** and churned out a review of nothing but sour grapes because of it.

Nintendo makes the games with same characters because of tradition, and tradition is one of companys key elements. I see nothing wrong with it, especially when those characters usually adventure in quality titles. New Zelda, Mario or Metroid title always brings the kind of nostalgic feeling, what other companies games have a hard time to match. What comes to Nntendo fans, i gotta say that youre wrong: I see just as much whining in PS360 forums, if not more. Whining is part of being a fan of something, if something you've had a high expectations turns to be a pancake. And remember, this is a FAN site, so what'd you expect?

That description of Samus is actually pretty much how i always imagined her, so for me it's propably a big +.

Samus talks too much.
And her voice isn't near being sexy enough to be talking that much.

You've seen G4's video review, right? If not let me summarise it for you:
"OMG, Samus is taking orders from a male! Also she has FEELINGS for the same MAN! F*cking sexist Nintendo! >:["
Sure, you could say that woman is not biased, but if she's not saying those stuff because she's biased and wants to be mean, then the only other reasonable explanation that doesn't involve aliens and sex orgies, is that she's STUPID.
There are other reviews that gave the game a bad score, but they aren't bad REVIEWS.

And I really don't think Nintendo fanboys are any worse than other fanboys. The internet is filled with fools of all kinds.

I'd say it is more like the Star Fox Command of the Metroid series. Bringing the series back to its roots but changing the gameplay to work well the hardware its on.

Early reviews are giving Metroid: Other M 8s and 9s out of 10. The most noteable review came from the latest N-Gamer magazine which gave it an 87%. Games rated over 85% in N-Gamer are gold award standard and highly recommended.

It appears not to be quite as good as Metroid Prime 1 and 3 but still a very, very good game.

I think that Other M is more like the Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Bros. 2, or Zelda 2 of the series: you either love it or hate it.

yeah, now that the haters have gotten the reviews out of their system it's actually turning out to be a pretty well reviewed game. gamerankings shows it climbing slowly: http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/960554-metroid-other-m/index....
without game informer in there it'd be a really solid list of scores. so many jerks who have played the game before me...

Mmm.

Anybody suggesting that Nintendo fans cry over negative reviews more than other fanboys has never posted at Gametrailers.com. The PS3 fanboys who post there are beyond stupid. Every time a review of PS3 exclusive comes out, if it doesn't score higher than the 9.6 or whatever GT gave Halo 3 there are dumb sigs made with the date of the review followed by 'the day GT lost all its credibility.' All fanboys are idiots, so don't act like it's just Nintendo fanboys. Secondly, the only review I've seen getting attacked is the absolutely pitiful G4 review by a feminist with an axe to grind. Nobody has attacked Gamesradar (70), Game Informer (6.25) or Gonintendo.com an obvious fanboy site which gave the game a 7.2.

The only attack has been on G4 and it's more than justified. This isn't the first time they've royally missed the boat. They gave Crisis Core FFVII a 2/5 while the vast majority of credible sources gave that game great reviews.

I really don't see the big deal with G4. Sure, they bring up some topics which some don't like, but at the end of the day, the game experience depends on you. They do mention factors other than what it is criticized on, but at the end of the day, it you who is buying the game.

Also, just on the...

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Part where Ridley is attacking Samus and she has that weird flashback to when she was a child. Do we all understand that she was child when here parents were murdered before our lustrous booty hunter? That's my only criticism.
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Despite my username, I don't like fanboys. I'm a Nintendo fan, but NOT a fanboy. Fanboys of any kind are totally dumb and elitist. They only swear allegiance to their company and belittle everything else. I love Nintendo, but I don't think their God. I'm not intrested in many Sony and Microsoft games, but I don't hate them. The reason why I don't is because I haven't played them, and I can't criticize a game I haven't played. That's something ignorant fanboys do.

Anyway, about Other M's reviews, it's probably a game you love or hate. That G4 review is ridiculous and they are biased against Nintendo anyway. I wouldn't expect Game Informer to give it a glowing review since they tend to be the same way. It's really you that determines if the game is good or not, not the reviews. They're saying what they think about the game, not what you think. You might think differently.

The G4 lady hit the nail on the head. They did to Samus what I was afraid the (in)famous Team Ninja would do. I **adore** the Ninja Gaiden franchise for the silly stories and ridiculous characters which act cheesy- or not at all. Samus didn't need to be "girly". She didn't need to be anything other than the silent rogue we've grown to love. Samus doesn't take orders. Samus doesn't have an internal monologue that craves acknowledgement from anyone.

I will enjoy the combat, but I will lament the destruction of a legend.

Seriously, @JebbyDerringer? You don't like Team Ninja? Me and my friends still get together to get knocked about by the classic NG Black. As everyone says, each to their own.

The moves samus pulls off are so awesome

Yeah that's where I'm at now but I seem to have hit a dead end. Curse my memory and lack of intuition

REMEBUH ME?

Yeah, but no fanboy will ever admit that he's a fanboy. So basically we have thousands of fanboys who just can't admit that they are fanboys. These are sometimes the same people that diss other fanboys. If you ask me, a fan is the exact same thing as fanboy, and therefore i admit that i am a fanboy (first time in the history of humankind - i need applauds).
P.S. I have a lot of experience of PlayStation games, but I still think that Nintendo makes the best games. And now, i'm off to play Final Fantasy IX.

There is a legitimate point to her complaints of sh*tting all over Samus. Who wants her to have a love interest? Especially one done in such an embarrassing, ham-fisted way.

In other words, basically what The Sovietchairman said.