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She spared the baby Metroid in Metroid 2, right? The one that no one played and is generally regarded as the weakest Metroid? (I speak rhetorically)

They should remake it. For the 3DS.

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Var

pixelman wrote:

She spared the baby Metroid in Metroid 2, right? The one that no one played and is generally regarded as the weakest Metroid? (I speak rhetorically)

They should remake it. For the 3DS.

Yea right at the end after the Queen Metroid. Also I agree, with the same treatment that the Original got in the shape of Metroid Zero Mission I believe Metroid 2 could become quite a formidable (re)entrant into the series. Plus as its the only Metroid currently unplayable on any current Gen consoles its due a make-over or at the very least a port

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Kid_A wrote:

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romulux wrote:

kinda sad. i wrote a review and noticed this: http://www.amazon.com/Metroid-Other-M-Nintendo-Wii/product-re...

look at the breakdown of scores and you'll see that most people actually gave it a 5, yet it's weighed down by the crowd that gave it 1. i don't understand these people; if you don't like the game that's fine, but do you have to be such a baby that you want it to go down as a failure for everyone else? what do they think they'll gain from lowering the average score?

i've had enough arguing over metroid the past few months for one lifetime, so i really don't care at this point, but i've never seen anything like the reaction people have had to this game. it's one of those things that reminds me to get off the computer and do something constructive, so there's a happy ending here

I think it's confirmed that if you give a game that doesn't blatantly suck a 1 your opinion no longer matters.

Yeah. I mean there's always some good, helpful user reviews on Amazon but you've always got to watch those 1 star reviews.

Reminds me of the App Store. People give random 1 reviews to games because "They will open and go back to the home screen" When that obviously is a glitch on the OS and yet people complain about it.

There should be a minimum amount of intelligence required to give something a review.

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Not necessarily. Some games just aren't programmed right for all of the iPod/ iPhone types, and they end up crashing. Some developers are also too lazy to update their games to the latest major firmware.

And, well whaddayagonnado about the 1 star reviews. They're always gonna be there.

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Gamesake

Wesbert wrote:

Then again, if Nintendo had stuck to the emotionless bad bountyhunter stereotype, we'd be reading articles along the lines of "Nintendo once again missed an opportunity to mature one of their heroes into a living, three-dimensional being

They need to unite the fans next time around. They need a compromise, like bring back the quiet bad bounty hunter but give her a belly ring so she seems more mature. It makes a statement: she can be vulnerable, she can make mistakes, she's not perfect. Or stretch marks! Stretch marks tell us more than 10 monologues ever could. Then everyone's happy.

romulux wrote:

kinda sad. i wrote a review and noticed this: http://www.amazon.com/Metroid-Other-M-Nintendo-Wii/product-re...
if you don't like the game that's fine, but do you have to be such a baby that you want it to go down as a failure for everyone else? what do they think they'll gain from lowering the average score?

Certainly they didn't take your feelings into account. If they had I'm sure they would have given Metroid Other M 5 stars regardless of their own opinions. I find the bigger problem with amazon reviews are having 35 or 15 separate reviews that all say the same thing or those guys who go on for 12 paragraphs like out of work writers.

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Wesbert

Gamesake wrote:

They need a compromise, like bring back the quiet bad bounty hunter but give her a belly ring so she seems more mature. It makes a statement: she can be vulnerable, she can make mistakes, she's not perfect.

In that case, the articles would read something along the lines of "In a pathetic attempt to appeal to present day gamers, Nintendo forced a steaming heap of pop-culture on one of it's oldest gaming heroines, effectively ruining the timeless appeal of the science-fiction setting and selling out it's soul. What's next? A coke vending machine in the Galactic Federation flagship? A Katy Perry cameo as a fellow bounty hunter? A tribal tattoo? Or should Samus receive a smartphone?" After all, every change is a sacrilege, while every omission of change is a sign of lazyness

EDIT: P.S: I REALLY hope no one actually suggests a belly ring in the "Sakamoto Wants to Know Your Metroid: Other M Thoughts" thread...

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Cia

Someone should wrote a counter article to that IGN's. Also, isn't this just Nntendo being traditional, as always? In the first Metroid the shock was that Samus was actually a woman and not some badass robot. Now in Other M the shock is that Samus is actually an emotional, individual human being and not some bad chick with the personality of robot.

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romulux

Gamesake wrote:

Certainly they didn't take your feelings into account. If they had I'm sure they would have given Metroid Other M 5 stars regardless of their own opinions.

i never said anything about wanting the game to get universal praise, it's clearly not for everyone and i don't care if someone dislikes it. what i'm talking about is a pocket of people who go beyond simply disliking it; it's rated with mostly 5 and 4 without many 2 or 3 star reviews, but then when you get to the bottom, '1', the number of reviews skyrockets back up again.

it takes a certain commitment to your hatred for something to give it a 1- ninjabread man, for instance, has an average of 2 stars and it's considered one of the very worst ever made. these people know other m's not a 1 star game. they're just bitter that it didn't turn out how they wanted and are rating it as low as possible to protest.

there are plenty of games out there with much bigger problems than other m that come out unscathed- okami, for instance, has controls that are completely broken, yet it still averages in the 9 range. metroid fusion was at least as linear than this one or more and it still comes out with 9 as well. you can isolate any complaint about this game and find another game that did it far worse while coming out of it highly rated. i think it's evidence of how upset people are that nintendo challenged them with something new when all they wanted was the same thing they've seen before over again.

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I can neither confirm nor deny that somebody at Nintendo Life may or may not be writing an article that defends Other M's interpretation of Samus

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Kid_A wrote:

I can neither confirm nor deny that somebody at Nintendo Life may or may not be writing an article that defends Other M's interpretation of Samus

I can neither confirm nor deny that it's about time!
I'm glad someone is, IGN really annoyed me with their 'Team Ninja ruined Samus! It's all their fault despite the fact that Sakomoto was there the whole time!'

Nice one, guys

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That IGN article was so IGNorant. What were they supposed to do, leave Samus as an unemotionless battle drone that never sleeps?

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kkslider5552000

I will admit that so far the story of Fusion was definitely better. Mainly because "less is more", I think. But Fusion's story continually got better and so is Other M's story. I just beat the giant crane machine btw. This game has had some great bosses so far. (not surprising as I love most Metroid bosses)

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ReddLionz

Never played Fusion. Sounds like its good, though. Can't find my GBA.

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Var

I'm pretty sure this hasn't been pointed out before, even so its worth showing again.
I popped over onto the Metroid.com site today for a browse at the wallpapers and what did I see, but none other than Nintendo Life's review being highlighted on the site.
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Kid_A

Awesome! Nintendo Life's review was pretty spot-on, I'd say.

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Link-Hero

I've seen NintendoLife get highlighted by Nintendo before in the weekly Emails I get from them. So It's not new to me.

If you want to see it, then sorry, it's too late. I deleted it awhile ago.

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SkullMan

The thing about Other: M is that it grows on you. At first I wasn't sure about it but in the end I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Granted the gameplay seemed a little toned down and simplistic when compared to Metroids of the past. That and the awkward dialogue, drawn out cutscenes, and Samus whiny inner monologue.

I thought it weird to beef up this story to appeal to hardcore fans and build on the lore of Metroid, yet at the same time make the control scheme simplistic in order to appeal to newbies. It was as if it had an identity crisis, the same thing applies between the side scrolling and the first person view mode. It all felt a bit forced and contrived at times.

It's a decent game, but it has it's flaws.

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romulux

SkullMan wrote:

I thought it weird to beef up this story to appeal to hardcore fans and build on the lore of Metroid, yet at the same time make the control scheme simplistic in order to appeal to newbies.

20+ year gamers aren't exactly newbies, are they? sakamoto kept talking about simplifying the controls and a lot of people interpreted that as making the game 'easier for idiots who can't work a controller'. what people are forgetting is that NES games were hard. simple obviously did not mean easy back then, and the same goes for other m. it's about putting the challenge in the gameplay, not the buttons.

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romulux

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this was apparently one of the demo shots used to show off the 3DS. it made me realize how much better received other m might have been if it were released on the 3DS instead- there would be fewer complaints about linearity, since that's more attractive when playing on the go. which also makes me realize that the more linear direction of other m is probably due in part to the fact that sakamoto's team has been working on handheld metroids over the past decade...

either way, it just seems like a great match.

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Var

That photo looks absolutely beautiful, havinga Metroid looking that good on the go would be marvelous to say the least. I also found the controls to not be overly simple, infact I can't imagine it with any other controls as it works so well.

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