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Oh sh-t, guess I need to leave this thread because of the spoilers. Thanks a lot Mono. >.<

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Adam

I wonder if a spoilers thread would be necessary? Mono's post definitely needs to be spoiler tagged. I mean, seriously. Fortunately for me, I'd already accidentally spoiled that on my own, but for others that would kind of suck to stumble across.

I have a spoilery comment regarding the Ridley fight.
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When he first confronts her, how could she possibly be so afraid? I mean, she's killed him before. Twice. That really didn't make sense to me. The way it was portrayed, it was like the first time she saw him since she was a child. I know a lot of reviewers think she should have no feelings at all, but I don't mean that she should just shrug and blast him in the face. It just seemed really overboard. I could see being surprised if it was the second time fighting him (Super Metroid), since she thought he was dead, but she should be used to unexplained resurrections by now, at least to the point of being above this, I think.
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Kid_A

@Adam
Here's the way I see it
and SPOILERS, people...
In the beginning of the game she refers to Ridley, with a quiver in her voice, as her nemisis. When she sees him in the lava place, she's stunned silent. And when she briefly is depicted as a screaming little girl, it shows us that she's not just shocked--she's scared. It also tells me that this isn't the first time she has felt this way. It suggests that her encounters with Ridley have always been extremely frightening. And after overcoming her fears and finally conquering him in Super Metroid, she thought that he was gone for good. His sudden appearence was thus doubly frightening and shocking, which is why she was frozen. That's the way I see it anyway.

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Adam

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True, it's possible she's frightened every time, but if you consider how many times she's faced him, that seems excessive. Like I pointed out, we had also assumed he was gone for good in Metroid, so why should it be doubly shocking now? She knows he can resurrect himself / clone himself / whatever himself by now. And if you consider the Prime series canonical (I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I've noticed elsewhere that some people say it's not now? I don't get it), and if you consider Zero Mission (I seem to remember two Ridley fights, but I forget) to replace Metroid, she should really be used to it. I certainly am... though I have the benefit here of not having my parents killed by him, I guess. Even though he is consistently one of the coolest bad guys in any game, I really hope he is finally laid to rest in this one, though we'd obviously never know for sure with this series. If I were Kraid, I'd be really tiffed about all this preferential treatment.
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Kid_A

Adam wrote:

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Possible, but like I pointed out, we had also assumed he was gone for good in Metroid, so why should it be doubly shocking now? She knows he can resurrect himself / clone himself / whatever himself by now. And if you consider the Prime series canonical (I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I've noticed elsewhere that some people say it's not now? I don't get it), and if you consider Zero Mission to replace Metroid, she should really be used to it. I certainly am... though I have the benefit here of not having my parents killed by him, I guess. Even though he is consistently one of the coolest bad guys in any game, I really hope he is finally laid to rest in this one, though we'd obviously never know for sure with this series. If I were Kraid, I'd be really tiffed about all this preferential treatment.
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Ridley can't clone himself, although towards the end of the game you do get an explanation as to how he ended up on the Bottle Ship. And since he also appears in Fusion (unless I'm horribly mistaken) I'm guessing they also explain how he ends up in that one (which comes after Other M).

I guess the reason why I guess she was so shocked this time around is because she just killed him. For good, she thought. She just overcame her greatest fear and defeated him. But what the fu--HE'S BACK! That's got to be traumatizing. Especially since she obviously has a deep fear and hatred of him. Is it a bit of a stretch? Yeah. But for me, it worked. That whole scene was pulse-pounding.

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NotEnoughGolds

Lousy spoilers.
Anyone else die a bunch in the elevator shaft?

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Kid_A

NotEnoughGolds wrote:

Lousy spoilers.
Anyone else die a bunch in the elevator shaft?

Which one? If you're talking about the one where you're fighting the purple lizard and the elevator above you is falling, then yes. For some reason, my stupid brain couldn't figure out that I was supposed to hide in one of the nooks and let the elevator kill the lizard. Foolishness, Kid_A!

And while we're on the subject, why has nobody mentioned how beautifully smooth the wall jumping is in this game?

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SuperPeach

I died at the elevator, I had a stupid moment and after shooting a missle at on weak spot I went "Cool anthor spot lets see what happens" so I shot the other one causing poor Samus to be crushed. >.<

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Bigdog

Yeah, I died at the Elevator a few times too. I caught me some serious case of stupid.

The first time I unloaded all my missiles at the lizard and then fell to my death.
The second, I blasted the supports and the elevator killed the lizard.... along with me.
The third, blasted the supports while standing on the ledge, and killed the lizard. But then I wanted to see if the fire "hurt"... and it did. So, I had low energy and then went to the top and one of those critters was on the edge and hit me back toward the hole and I fell down to the fire again and died.

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Adam

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That's possible, but it's not really implied. She is drawing the connection to when he first attacked her as a child, which seems weird to me when she's faced him so many times since. It would seem more natural to have a flashback to Super Metroid if his recent "death" is the shocking part, but I think they were just so gungho on revealing her past (and who can blame them? I certainly want to know more) that they didn't think it through perfectly.

Anyway, since it's not a contradiction of facts, and we don't know how Samus felt in the other games for the most part, I don't guess there's any way of figuring it out for certain. Not that it matters. It was still super duper awesome -- the cut scene, fight, and music.
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Seriously, if anyone reads one of my posts and complains I've spoiled something, don't say you weren't warned.

Regarding elevators, I died at the first one (haven't gotten to a second one, I don't think) a few times. I hid in the nook once and got grabbed by the lizard, which made me think I wasn't supposed to do that, leading to a frustrating sequence of repeated deaths before I tried it again.

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Bigdog

Actually, I appreciate it @Adam. Every time I see your post, I skip the part you have "tagged" and read the rest of the stuff that I have already played.

But that's one of the most infuriating things in gaming... when you have the right idea about what to do in a situation, but because of a fluke thing it makes you think it's wrong and then you go on a wild goose chase looking for a better option.

That's EXACTLY what happened to me in Super Metroid, on that wall jumping section with the critters. Ended up spending a long time doing a bomb jumps all the way up. This usually happens to me at least once in a good Zelda game, too.

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NotEnoughGolds

Bigdog wrote:

Yeah, I died at the Elevator a few times too. I caught me some serious case of stupid.

The first time I unloaded all my missiles at the lizard and then fell to my death.
The second, I blasted the supports and the elevator killed the lizard.... along with me.

lol, my first two were the same.
Then, I jumped to the bottom to run out of the shaft. Death #3
Then, I figured out I need to hide in a nook. Death #4 as the lizard grabbed me with his tail, held me up in the air, and let the elevator slam down on me.

Edit: I rule

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Adam

Oh, nevermind, regarding the Ridley discussion. I get it now. Just got to the big halfway reveal cinematics. Very nice.

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The_Fox

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JayArr wrote:

8 -12 Hours long.

This true?

Not according to my Wii, which tells me I played this game for eighteen hours and forty minutes yesterday (and I still haven't finished it). I'm sure that pretty much every review is just based on the story's length (point A to point B), and they didn't actually bother to try looking for the more deviously hidden pick-ups...
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Wait, you played a game for nearly 19 hours in a single day?

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Kid_A

So I just beat the game. Well, you know, the first end anyway. Do they explain the title Other M later on or should I just continue my assumption that it's simply an anagram for Mother?

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Adam

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I would assume it stands for other Metroid(s) or other Mother (MB). I'm not done yet though.
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Maaaan, the game just gets awesomer and awesomer by the second from the Ridley fight onward. Can't wait to get home tonight and hopefully finish it. Definitely the best 3D Metroid. I'll have to replay the 2D ones someday soon because I'm not even sure if all of those are better. Metroid 1 & 2 definitely take a back seat for me.

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Kid_A

Mild Spoilers
The ending of the game: hmm. One one hand the twist at the end is very cool, and it wraps up an over all excellent story. I just thought the last little bit, which has Samus sort of reflecting on the whole adventure, wasn't particularly effective. Then again, the game isn't exactly over over once the credits role. In fact it only gets more fun So we'll see. Maybe there's more to the ending I just haven't seen yet.

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Adam

I'm curious what your completion time was, Kid A. I get the feeling I'm nearing the non-100% end, myself. Don't know what my time is right now, but it couldn't be close to the 20+ hour mark usually associated with 3D console adventures. I quite hope it turns out to be as short as I'm suspecting it is. I look forward to trying hard mode, but not if it's going to take me forever.

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Kid_A

Just an estimate, but probably around 9-10 hours. I actually quite appreciated it's brevity. I hate it when console games add in needless objectives to try and stretch out the length (like finding the energy cells in MP3). Plus there's plenty to do once you beat the game

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