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Topic: Did Wii Live Up To It's Codename?

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AlexSays

81. Posted:

NINTENDOFACE wrote:

Just trying to make "peace." No need to be defensive when there's no offensive.

I'm telling you you're right because of how I see things. lol

It's not my fault I don't post a stupid emoticon after everything I say.

Koos wrote:

If you want to argue that its the same thing then console gaming was never revolutionary. And yeah cellphones aren't either. You had landlines before. Different debate.

So the technology in a cell phone is the same as a landline?

And you fault me for not agreeing with you? lol

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82. Posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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83. Posted:

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@Koos Exactly. But alas, I grow tired of trying to convince this Alex fellow to look at both sides. Good luck with your future endeavors! Ciao.

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84. Posted:

Koos wrote:

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Hey look, another thing you don't entirely understand.. lol

I say the Wii is not a revolution because the same technology already exists. You say then cell phones aren't a revolution. I say the technology is vastly different in cell phones.

I can't make this simpler.

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Actually I can make this simpler.

If the tech in cell phones was the exact same as in landlines, and mobile phones just took existing tech and made them portable, you would have a point.

Since this is not the case, your analogy doesn't hold up. I really don't want to have to explain how cell phones work though.. >.>

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85. Posted:

In a way, Wii did and did not revolutionize.

Wii brought back casual gaming. But on the other hand, the technology graphics wise wasn't.

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86. Posted:

Hand-held radio transceivers have been available since the 1940s.

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87. Posted:

It's a good thing they didn't call it Revolution in the end...

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AlexSays

88. Posted:

Koos wrote:

Hand-held radio transceivers have been available since the 1940s.

You are really trying to argue the technology existing in early cell phones existed in the 1940s?

Yeah this isn't going anywhere. I'm content with going our separate ways. >.>

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89. Posted:

AlexSays wrote:

NINTENDOFACE wrote:

Just trying to make "peace." No need to be defensive when there's no offensive.

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I'm telling you you're right because of how I see things. lol

It's not my fault I don't post a stupid emoticon after everything I say.

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Koos

90. Posted:

I am showing how you have no arguments and how you must resort to strawman techniques at best to even remotely make an off topic claim.

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91. Posted:

Koos wrote:

I am showing how you have no arguments and how you must resort to strawman techniques at best to even remotely make an off topic claim.

How does incorrectly using my analogy do anything?

The technology existing in the Wii already existed. They didn't invent anything. Hexagonal cellular networks were a completely new kind of technology. It had to be invented, they didn't have that available back when they had the first mobile radio transceivers.

Go do some research and then try to poke holes in my analogies.

Edit: For the sake of my sanity, what level of education are you? Grade school student, college student, or college graduate?

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Koos

92. Posted:

The concepts and technoligy of mobile phone evolved just like motion control. With mobile phones it goes back to the 40s. Later with use in automobiles (that means cars) and so on.

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Koos wrote:

The concepts and technoligy of mobile phone evolved just like motion control. With mobile phones it goes back to the 40s. Later with use in automobiles (that means cars) and so on.

Just google the invention of hexagonal cellular networks. You might learn something. The evolution of mobile phones included brand new inventions in technology. Nothing was invented here.

Now it's like you want me to explain the history of mobile phones and cellular networks to you. >.>

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You demonstrate an acute ability to misunderstand what people are saying to you. There are inventions along the way of both mobile phones and motion control. Nothing about this had to do with the topic. You will find nevertheless that Wii has contributed to patents.

So what is your special ability, not knowing how cell phones work?

It's not the same. I can give you an example of an invention corresponding with mobile cell phones. I already did. You cannot do the same. You cannot list anything the Wii invented with it's controller.

You're better off going the whole "Oh everything is revolutionary" route. Then we can go our separate ways, but not when you show a blatant disregard for understanding how technology has actually developed.

I gave you a concise example for you to research and everything. Couldn't have made it easier.

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94. Posted:

last i checked, cellular networks of any kind weren't Wiis.

it's a simple question — do you feel the Wii lived up to its codename, yes or no. Post your answer, let others post theirs, and if those who disagree with you are too far out there to understand your logic, just move on — they're not going to listen no matter how hard you attempt to persuade them to your position. let's get back to the main topic, please and thank you :3

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AlexSays

95. Posted:

I'm arguing with primarily really young people about definitions.

I don't think there is any winning anywhere. I lost four years ago when I made the account. lol

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Koos

96. Posted:

I wish I was young. @TBD granted I'm off.
I'll leave it here here for further discussion. Not only it is a revolution because it brought motion gaming for the first time and for the VC it also made this:
http://www.patentadesign.com/gallery/nintendo-wii-controller-...

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97. Posted:

@AlexSays: life gets so much easier around here when you stop caring about what other people think. let them be wrong, it's not life-or-death and anyone with reasoning power beyond ZOMG NINTENDO YAY will understand what you're saying. :3

as to the original question, Nintendo's made no secret out of their policy to use existing technology in new ways, and good for them re: marketing their console to a then-untapped consumer base, but do i think the Wii was a revolution? not in and of itself, no. Roll on Wii U :3

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AlexSays

98. Posted:

That doesn't change anything. Throwing previously existing technology into a certain shape and patenting it doesn't make any more revolutionary than the technology it already uses.

They also patented this:

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Previously existing tech in a football shell. I suppose that is a revolution as well?

theblackdragon wrote:

@AlexSays: life gets so much easier around here when you stop caring about what other people think :3

What is the easy life, playing forums games.. making lists of games I want to see/have/etc... posting in the My Little Pony thread? lol

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I wish I was young.

Well if you're old and didn't want to answer the level of education question, that doesn't exactly go in your favor either. lol

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99. Posted:

@Topic - It's certainly changed things. Whether or not it's for the better has yet to be seen...

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100. Posted:

I feel that the Wii was a revolution because of how it revolutionized motion controls. They existed before the Wii, but it seems as though the Wii with it's collection of games and innovative uses of motion controls helped revolutionize them as a whole along with bringing them to the forefront of gaming. After the Wii was a success with motion controls, Microsoft and Sony brought out their Kinect and Move respectively thus gaining similar success in the market.

Before AlexSays responds, yes, there was pre-existing tech used with the Wii. Motion controls have been around for a WHILE. However, I feel that the Wii was one of the first to use them on such a large scale in a successful way. And to the revolution-definition question, everything revolutionizes SOMETHING in SOME WAY. PS3 and 360 helped revolutionize gaming just like the Wii did. The PC, although not a console, helped revolutionize gaming early on--even before graphics existed! Hell, board games even revolutionized gaming by coming up with new ways to play games.

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