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Topic: Daemon Hatfield bashes Wii in IGN Podcast

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Corbs

I think it's safe to say that the majority of Wii owners aren't going to want a person that called the Wii console and Wii Remote controller "stupid" repeatedly in a conversation, being silly or not, reviewing games for it. Call me insane, but that's my thought on the matter. So he may have ripped his own ass on that one.

Hey same minute post! Yay. And saying almost the same thing.

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

I think Nintendo fans get upset about seeing the Wii bashed in or out of context because it gets more than its fair share. Just about the only thing that both sides of the rabbid PS3/360 console war can agree on is "the Wii sucks," and we're tired of hearing it as a result!

lol, I see what you mean, but 360 fans have to deal with PS3 fans saying the 360 sucks, and vice versa, and all of them have to deal with the Scoop crew dissing their consoles. PS3 fans don't lose their wig when Scoop makes fun of the PS3, and 360 fans don't lose their marbles when Scoop makes fun of the 360, but leave it to the Wii fans to reinforce the negative stereotype by throwing a temper tantrum when Scoop makes fun of the Wii. **sigh**

Stuffgamer1 wrote:

But I have no real problem with the controls for Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess. Sure, waggling a little bit to do a very basic and much-needed move can be annoying, but it's not game-breaking, and it's certainly not a reason to not want to play the games.

Ya, but imagine being a professional game reviewer and having to play these games for like 6 hours straight. Holy arm crampage. I did find the waggle spin-attack annoying in SMG because it took a while to 'recover' from it, and by that time something had hit me, which was annoying on the daredevil runs. The thing is that with TP and SMG, the waggle attack could have just as easily been replaced with a button press. So why use motion control? It doesn't make the game more fun or immersive. It's just there for the sake of justifying the introduction of the Wii and a 'new way to play', which may be new but isn't an improvement.

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

It really DOESN'T make sense to accept reviews from someone who doesn't like what he's reviewing

That's not the case. He doesn't like the Wii as a separate console when it was originally planned as a GC peripheral and since they didn't even make it HD. But, he loves various games on it. So it's not true to say that he doesn't like what he's reviewing by default.

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Corbs

I know my boss here at Nintendo Life wouldn't allow me to keep reviewing Wii games if I had made that type of statement on a public forum. I'd be updating my resume as we speak. You hear that Daz, I love the Wii, I love the motion controls, I love Nintendo. And you're the greatest boss in the whole wide world.

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Stuffgamer1

But like I said, the PS3 guys mostly get based by 360 fanboys, and vice versa. They get less bashing overall than the Wii, and in my opinion, their bashing is more justified anyway. Wii bashing tends to appear hugely ignorant. While some PS3/360 bashing is as well, I find less of it to be so. It's difficult for me to explain, but suffice it to say that the Wii does have an undeserved negative stigma within the gaming community that neither other console can match (as if they'd want to).

Was there really a free button for sword attacks in TP? No, there actually wasn't. The spin in Galaxy could've been mapped pretty easily, though. I have spent multi-hour sessions on those games without cramping up, too. Maybe it's all about how vigorously you shake. it doesn't take much at all, really.

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malpon

the PS3 and 360 fanboys tend to vent more in person then on the internet(in my experence) as soon as they lean I have a wii they act as if i said something horably profane and almost seem like their going to lung at me. this one PS3 fanboy ran a good distance just to tell me the DS was inferior to the PSP(he used a more colorful way of saying it) and seemed very proud of himself.

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Corbie wrote:

I love the Wii, I love the motion controls, I love Nintendo.

See, now THAT'S bias.

@Stuffgamer1, if there weren't enough free buttons, it's because Nintendo went and deleted them from the wiimote, which only serves to strengthen Daemon's point that the wiimote is stupid. I personally really love the IR sensor and the way it splits the controller into two parts so that it is left-handed friendly and more comfortable. But there really are too few buttons, and too awkwardly arranged.

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Corbs

See, now THAT'S bias.

Nope. That's called kissing some major ass.

I have no bias against any game console. I love them all in their own unique way. Okay except that piece of crap 3DO, but that's for personal reasons.

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Corbie wrote:

I have no bias against any game console. I love them all in their own unique way.

Goodness, you talk about them like they're brain-damaged children.

You know, ass-kissing doesn't work so well when you let the person know they you're just trying to kiss their ass

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Stuffgamer1

Uh-oh, Corbie said Daz has a huge ass!

Anyway, @Clicketyclick: Now YOU'RE starting to sound anti-Wii. If you think you could put more buttons on the Wiimote in a non-clunky way, I'd be happy to see it. All a game designer really needs to do with the Wii is build a game to work with the controller instead of against it. TP was a port of a Gamecube game, so they didn't do it QUITE right. It could've been a LOT worse, though (Marvel Ultimate Alliance comes to mind...ugh).

To prove the Wiimote can be used well, I call Overlord: Dark Legend to the stand. I think the controls work quite well even though it's a prequel to an Xbox 360 game. This is because they designed it with Wii in mind, as it should be. I have nothing against the Wiimote itself whatsoever, just dummies who can't figure out how to program for it.

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Corbs

Goodness, you talk about them like they're brain-damaged children.

They're not brain-damaged, they're developmentally-challenged, thank you very much. And Daz doesn't care if I tell him I'm just ass kissing. He already knows I have an attitude problem, so he lets it slide.

I have nothing against the Wiimote itself whatsoever, just dummies who can't figure out how to program for it.

And that hit the nail right on the head for me. And don't just tack it on just because you feel the inherent need to do so. Make it functional, or leave it off.

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

Now YOU'RE starting to sound anti-Wii.

Oh for godsakes, put your torches and pitchforks back in your pockets. Seeing some faults with the Wii instead of blaming it all on developers does not mean that I ARE BIAS!!!!

If the people who tack on waggle controls are dummies who can't figure out how to use it, then I guess that includes Nintendo as well. The waggle as it is is pretty useless in most games. Should have had Motion+ capabilities at launch, and there's no reason they couldn't have, since the technology had been available for a while. Regardless, this is getting off-topic.

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Corbs

What was the topic again? Oh yeah, Daemon putting his foot in his mouth and basically turning a rabid Wii fanbase against him. Well whatever his reason, and right or wrong, he's pissed off a lot of people in one sitting. But then again, who hasn't at one point or another. As we said, he's moved on to another section of IGN, so the Wii fans don't have to concern themselves with his difference of opinion anyway.

Readers who like him, probably still like him and those who were on the fence, can now get off.

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malpon

As much as I love nintendo I also think they shoud have had M+ at launch I remember thinking "they really coud have included a second motion sensor..." while playing TP. but i have to wonder if were going to eventuly see M++ or the inevitable PS3 reincarnation of a M+.

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malnin wrote:

As much as I love nintendo I also think they shoud have had M+ at launch I remember thinking "they really coud have included a second motion sensor..." while playing TP. but i have to wonder if were going to eventuly see M++.

lol, how long can the Wiimote get?

By the next Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, we'll be able to do 1:1 long-jump.

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Corbs

Instead of a Wii Remote it can be the Wii Staff.

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clicketyclick

On the bright side, there'll be plenty of room for buttons.

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Chrono_Cross

clicketyclick wrote:

Stuffgamer1 wrote:

Now YOU'RE starting to sound anti-Wii.

If the people who tack on waggle controls are dummies who can't figure out how to use it, then I guess that includes Nintendo as well. The waggle as it is is pretty useless in most games. Should have had Motion+ capabilities at launch, and there's no reason they couldn't have, since the technology had been available for a while. Regardless, this is getting off-topic.

Um news flash WM+ wasn`t exactly available back in 2006. If it were Nintendo wouldn`t be releasing it 2 1/2 years later. The technology wasn`t available at the time, so evolved point-less waggle which is in your statement you Wii hater you.
EDIT: Just kidding about that last part BTW

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clicketyclick wrote:

Oh for godsakes, put your torches and pitchforks back in your pockets. Seeing some faults with the Wii instead of blaming it all on developers does not mean that I ARE BIAS!!!!.

Ummm.... sorry to barge into this uninvited, but you didn't "see some flaws with the Wii", you argued that it "strengthened Deamon's point that the Wiimote is stupid". And that's part of the problem. Something being more or less flawed and something being stupid are two different things entirely. And that's why Mr. Hatfield doesn't have a point. So it can't be strengthened. Sorry for this interruption.

EDIT:@ Chrono Cross: M+ technology was around when the Wii launched, but very expensive, so including it would have raised the price for the Wii considerably. Now it's cheaper, so it's ready for the masses (That's what Nintendo said).

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Chrono+Cross wrote:

clicketyclick wrote:

The waggle as it is is pretty useless in most games. Should have had Motion+ capabilities at launch, and there's no reason they couldn't have, since the technology had been available for a while. Regardless, this is getting off-topic.

Um news flash WM+ wasn`t exactly available back in 2006. If it were Nintendo wouldn`t be releasing it 2 1/2 years later. The technology wasn`t available at the time, so evolved point-less waggle which is in your statement you Wii hater you.
EDIT: Just kidding about that last part BTW

M+ wasn't available at launch, but M+ capabilities were. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Ninty didn't invent it. The tech has existed for a while and motion controls were used in arcades and for obscure computer controllers. Ninty only actually licensed the tech from Gyration in 2001. In other words, what's in your hands now is old tech from the turn of the millennium and M+ has been a possibility for years.

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