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Kid_A

81. Posted:

Buying these games doesn't mean we won't get new games. I mean we're getting a new Punch-Out and a new Sin and Punishment aren't we? And aren't we getting a new Zelda for DS? And isn't there a new Mario game and a new Pikmin game AND a new Zelda Wii game in the works? Yes. Are the NPC games lazy cash-ins? Yes, but they're also cheap and fun, and they're not preventing us from getting new games. I think people are blowing this whole thing waaay out of proportion.

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82. Posted:

Alexsays never said anything about us not getting new games if we support these ports he clearly said in other words that we shouldn`t support these games. He also said its 2009 not 2005 and we should be getting new Wii software not aged GC titles. And I heartly agree with him.

Nintendo giving us classic games to play on Wii? Isn`t that what the VC is for?

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83. Posted:

Kid_A wrote:

Buying these games doesn't mean we won't get new games. I mean we're getting a new Punch-Out and a new Sin and Punishment aren't we? And aren't we getting a new Zelda for DS? And isn't there a new Mario game and a new Pikmin game AND a new Zelda Wii game in the works?

Zelda is for the DS, we're talking about the Wii.

If you count all of those, new games are still tied with remakes.
And it's pretty obvious we're not getting Pikmin 3, a new Mario, and a new Zelda all this year.
So yeah.. remakes outnumber new games for the first time in Nintendo history.
You think that's a good thing? That's fine we're all unique like snowflakes. I'd rather have more new games than remakes but that's just me.

And sure, buying these might not change anything.
But I'm not supporting something I believe is for a bad cause. If others feel the same way I encourage them to follow suit.

We're four months into the year, and for the first time ever, Nintendo has not given us a new game.
I'd like that to change.
Having WarioWare and Paper Mario one year and then Endless Ocean and Brawl the next was a lot better than having nothing so far this year.

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84. Posted:

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If you count all of those, new games are still tied with remakes.
And it's pretty obvious we're not getting Pikmin 3, a new Mario, and a new Zelda all this year.
So yeah.. remakes outnumber new games for the first time in Nintendo history.
You think that's a good thing? That's fine we're all unique like snowflakes. I'd rather have more new games than remakes but that's just me.

You honestly believe games like Zelda and Mario are going to be made just two-three years time? Games like those take time when it comes to Nintendo, heck I be surprised if we get any teasers with those games this year at all. Besides, can we actually anticipate anything BESIDES Mario and Zelda? Try looking at the third party games, there are some good ones coming out this year already.

Anyway, I am buying the Metroid Prime series of NPC cause I am getting Metroid Prime 2, and since I have MP3 already I might as well have MP1 to have the entire collection on Wii and give my friend, who currently has my GC to keep, my GC copy of Metroid Prime 1. Also, I will buy more NPC if they bring in games that would benefit with the Wii-mote like Luigi's Mansion (never played it) and HOPEFULLY Geist.

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85. Posted:

@alexsays - i think your theory is wrong. thats almost like saying virtual console games are keeping nintendo from releasing more original content. it just does not take the resources to make these remakes. and although you might not like every one, most people are happy about one. i like resident evil 4, for instance. much better than the gamecube version.

i think more likely the flurry of games we received previously is the cause. we should be getting another boom eventually. its a cycle. the remakes are just filler material. i think its a distraction a bit, but at the same time i dont think its harmful. i dont think they are trying to dupe us, or whatever.

but i applaud your efforts to do what you believe.

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86. Posted:

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You honestly believe games like Zelda and Mario are going to be made just two-three years time? Games like those take time when it comes to Nintendo, heck I be surprised if we get any teasers with those games this year at all. Besides, can we actually anticipate anything BESIDES Mario and Zelda? Try looking at the third party games, there are some good ones coming out this year already.

This makes no sense.
I know Mario and Zelda aren't coming soon, I already said that.
Those aren't Nintendo's only franchises, you know...

People say "Hey how can you expect anything else, we already got Mario and Zelda" and I'm like "Yeah great, what about the 15 other franchises" lol

As for third parties, that's great.
I have more third-party games than first party games.
That still has nothing to do with Nintendo not properly supporting its console.

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Also, I will buy more NPC if they bring in games that would benefit with the Wii-mote like Luigi's Mansion (never played it) and HOPEFULLY Geist.

Please don't tell me you want more?
This is a "only if this happens" kind of thing, right?

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Atlantis1982

87. Posted:

AlexSays wrote:

This makes no sense.
I know Mario and Zelda aren't coming soon, I already said that.
Those aren't Nintendo's only franchises, you know...

Okay, after rereading what you said; I agree. In fact, I am looking forward to SnP2 and Wii Sports Resort (shocker)

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Please don't tell me you want more?
This is a "only if this happens" kind of thing, right?

Should mention that I will buy NPC games that I have not owned, with the exception of MP1 just for consistency, but as I said before I will buy them that I feel warrents the use of the Wii-Mote. Like Luigi's Mansion, it used a lot of pointer controls (assuming from watching some videos), and that will be nice for the Wii-Mote. Another game, that is already out, is Pikmin. That is one that benefits the use of the Wii-mote except I don't care much for strategy games that much. What I am saying is if these games are made to be for the Wii then I might grab them.

Besides, these games are NOT going to ruin the chances of new titles; games like Wii Music are the real reason. :P

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88. Posted:

@AlexSays- So I want to first state that I love me my new games. But I want you to chew on the following thought (yum): Let's start by assuming that these NPC games don't affect the likelihood of new games coming out. I know, don't assume, but this seems questionable to me. These games seem more like they are buying time while making Nintendo look like its releasing stuff. The alternative? Nintendo quite possibly releases nothing. Hopefully we can appreciate that they are releasing these for those who want them even if some choose to pass and can wait for the new games that we want. Ending note: I predict Pikmin 3 by the end of the year. You heard it here first.

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89. Posted:

Kid_A wrote:

Buying these games doesn't mean we won't get new games. I mean we're getting a new Punch-Out and a new Sin and Punishment aren't we?

Until it comes out, I can't say for sure, but IGN says Punch-Out Wii is more a remake than a new game. Of course, this is with really great graphics, plus new controls, plus it's been a very long time since the last Punch-Out, so if this is true, it's not so bad. Still, I'll stick to the VC.
Sin & Punishment is being developed by Treasure, not Nintendo, who is only publishing it and not very involved. I'm very excited about the game, but Treasure is the company to thank for it since it's their series. Of the Wii games announced for this year, S&P2 looks the best.

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90. Posted:

The reason I would/will buy the NPC games is because I never had them on the cube. WHen the game cube was around I was on a hiatus from games, unless they were on the PC, which I spent a lot of time on.

Looking back, I personally only owned 2 maybe 3 games, Wolverine's Revenge, Rogue Squadron 3, and I'm forgetting what the 3rd was, if there was one.

Now, because the Wii plays Cube games, I own:
MGS:TS
Ikaruga (stole my brothers copy, or as I say, traded Pikman 2 for it)
SNK vs EO (got it for free)
Eternal Darkness Sanity Requiem
LoZ:Wind Waker
and Orcanrina of time, gamecube edition

My brother was the Cube and PS2 player, so we still had the classics like SSBM, Ikaruga, Pikman, Viewtiful Joe, Soul Calibur II, Metroid Prime and so on, and getting him to get off that, when he was playing something, was like prying money out of Scrooge McDuck's hand.

Point being is, I never got around to playing those games that are going to be NPCs, and I would rather buy them, like the Metroid games, with Wiimote controls, then track them down at the local game stores.

So for me, the NPCs are a welcome addition the the Wii catalogue

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-TR

91. Posted:

I intend to buy 'em all. Show that all their older franchises and titles are suported still.

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92. Posted:

I'll probably buy them eventually, but that is because I like collecting video games.

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93. Posted:

Only the Metroid Primes and Pikmin
ever since I started using the Wii remote I cant go back to analog sticks

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94. Posted:

Well I'll buy 'em if I'm interested because given a choice I don't want to use a Gamecube pad and hunt down some 2nd hand Gamecube game. I got Pikmin; nice game. I'd buy Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance to avoid paying £25+ for a 2nd hand Gamecube game (if you find it cheaper let me know!).

Not buying these games isn't going to make Nintendo put out some sequel to an old franchise you like, so stop worrying about it...

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AlexSays

95. Posted:

Sean+Aaron wrote:

Not buying these games isn't going to make Nintendo put out some sequel to an old franchise you like, so stop worrying about it...

Is that a general statement or there's really an old franchise I like you're telling me I won't get? lol

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I intend to buy 'em all. Show that all their older franchises and titles are suported still.

And it'll pay off when we get NPC Wind Waker instead of a new Zelda. :P

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These games seem more like they are buying time while making Nintendo look like its releasing stuff. The alternative? Nintendo quite possibly releases nothing. Hopefully we can appreciate that they are releasing these for those who want them even if some choose to pass and can wait for the new games that we want. Ending note: I predict Pikmin 3 by the end of the year. You heard it here first.

They've never done that though.

They've never just released nothing in like half a year.

They've either been (A) working on less games and giving the whole "remake" thing a chance or (B) giving consumers a chance to catch up on already-released Nintendo games.

Either way it sucks for us fans.

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Besides, these games are NOT going to ruin the chances of new titles; games like Wii Music are the real reason. :P

Hey some people said Wii Music was fun. lol

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96. Posted:

I haven't bothered reading the entire thread, but I do want to point out that of the nine games listed in the first post, only six were actually developed by Nintendo. Endless Ocean was developed by Arika, Mario & Sonic... was developed by Sega and Battalion Wars 2 was developed by Headstrong Games. As for Link's Crossbow Training, it can hardly be considered a legitimate retail release; it was designed specifically to sell the Wii Zapper, nothing more,

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97. Posted:

Moai+Head wrote:

I haven't bothered reading the entire thread, but I do want to point out that of the nine games listed in the first post, only six were actually developed by Nintendo.

They're still Nintendo games. They're projects Nintendo has given to other developers so they can work on other things.

If Nintendo stopped giving the same number of projects up for development, they are still giving us less games.

This is about "Nintendo games", not "Specifically-Developed-By-Nintendo Games" because that's not all Nintendo gives us.

Battalion Wars is a Nintendo franchise. By making it themselves or giving to a developer, they're giving fans another game. Another Nintendo game.

What has been the revolving idea around the thread? Less Nintendo games.

And even if we take your number, there's been a huge drop...

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98. Posted:

I'm gonna buy Metroid Prime 1 and 2 sometime, because Wii controls are awesome. And also Pikmin because I missed out on the first one.

I'm also hoping for a Wind Waker NPC...

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99. Posted:

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I'm also hoping for a Wind Waker NPC...

So we get a new Zelda even longer from now?

Awesome.
I'm glad Nintendo fans would rather ask for games we can already play on the Wii instead of asking for new games.

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100. Posted:

AlexSays wrote:

They're still Nintendo games. They're projects Nintendo has given to other developers so they can work on other things.

If Nintendo stopped giving the same number of projects up for development, they are still giving us less games.

This is about "Nintendo games", not "Specifically-Developed-By-Nintendo Games" because that's not all Nintendo gives us.

Battalion Wars is a Nintendo franchise. By making it themselves or giving to a developer, they're giving fans another game. Another Nintendo game.

What has been the revolving idea around the thread? Less Nintendo games.

And even if we take your number, there's been a huge drop...

That's not true, though - Mario & Sonic, for instance, was both developed and published by Sega and was in development long before they approached Nintendo about adding Mario characters. Endless Ocean was published by Nintendo but the game itself is largely based on Arika's Everblue series on PS2; Nintendo only showed interested in publishing the game once it was done.

Anyway, it's irrelevant - Nintendo has already announced they'll be publishing a whole ton of games in 2009, an amount equal to the number they published last year, and that's without taking the NPC games into account. Sure, you can compare one arbitrary cross-section to another, totally out of context, but what does that prove?

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