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WarioFan63

121. Posted:

I planned from the start to buy all 7 NPC games, even though I own 6 of them on GC. That bothers me actually...I need to get my hands on GC Chibi-Robo and then I'll have a complete set! No wait, I need to prepare myself in case this happens again...here I come Four Swords Adventures and Odama!

I'm actually hoping they make a second set (which again, I'll obsessively buy), mostly to see if they'll give second winds to games like Doshin and Kuru Kuru Kururin....or would that be third wind for Doshin? It'd be great to at least get GC that were never released here before right?

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Adam

122. Posted:

Wow, I just don't understand that, paying for 14 games only to get 7, and not selling the 7 originals? If you have that much money to waste, why not share? :D

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__WarioFan63 wrote:

I planned from the start to buy all 7 NPC games, even though I own 6 of them on GC. That bothers me actually...I need to get my hands on GC Chibi-Robo and then I'll have a complete set! No wait, I need to prepare myself in case this happens again...here I come Four Swords Adventures and Odama!

I'm actually hoping they make a second set (which again, I'll obsessively buy), mostly to see if they'll give second winds to games like Doshin and Kuru Kuru Kururin....or would that be third wind for Doshin? It'd be great to at least get GC that were never released here before right?

You're insane!

It would be cool to see NPC versions of Japan-only games though.

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Token_Girl

124. Posted:

I really don't think NPC titles are affecting release dates for major games since they are so easy to produce. I think, if anything, they are being used to drum up a market FOR franchise sequels among all the new Nintendo fans that have recently bought wiis. Major franchise games take years to develop, and we haven't seen too many sequels to major franchise games in one console's lifetime since Super NES really. The NPC allows Ninty to get their franchises that aren't as big name as Mario (like metroid and pikman) known in the marketplace beyond Nintendo fanboys for the purpose of increasing their sequel's success.

Of course, they make some basically free money off of them, but it gives people something to play during the lag time between sequels. Also, since 3rd party games seem to have had trouble competing against 1st party titles, limiting the number of new 1st party games this year will hopefully encourage great 3rd party game development. Hopefully good games will be released this year and will sell well because they aren't competing with Mario Galaxy 2, and this will beget more great 3rd party games throughout the console's lifespan. People who probably won't buy more than 9 games a year dominate the wii console, so that makes it more difficult for 3rd party producers when there are so many new 1st party games. If 3rd parties aren't encouraged, we won't get much of a variety. We'll get only shovelware that's cheap to produce, because nobody will want to put the time, money, and effort into an excellent game that just won't sell well. That's bad for everyone. This has been a problem with the wii so far, so hopefully reducing the number of big name new titles will help. New gamers can buy NPC's. Older gamers who have them all will have cash freed up for 3rd party games.

I plan on buying Metriod Prime and Pikman at some point, since I heard they were both good, and I didn't have them on Gamecube. I wouldn't buy an NPC I already owned, but if it's better than the Gamecube version, why not buy it if you don't have it?

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SmaMan

125. Posted:

Wha? You're taking applications again? Cool! But I'm way to busy with my news organization to really devote time to another one. Maybe if things calm down I could... and I don't see that happening anytime soon... Also video is more my thing, http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A201DBD0ADE8028D

But back on subject! Yes, I do believe that these NPC's are just quick ways for Nintendo to cash in on their new casual gaming crowd, and unfortunately, they'll eat this all up because they think its new. The NPC version of Donkey Kong Jungle Beat showed up in my "Intend to Buy" thing for a while, but I never picked it or anything.

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126. Posted:

Nintendo sent us Excitebots and New Play Control Pikmin to review, so we didn't have to pay for them. I'm still not sold on the NPC games anyway. I still have Pikmin and Pikmin 2 for the Gamecube and the NPC doesn't add enough for me to buy it all over again.

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Twilight_Crow

127. Posted:

I think I'm with AlexSays, I understand the NPC games are for people that never got to play those titles or for those who want to try them with the new control scheme, and blah blah blah; but I'd really prefer to get a totally new Mario Tennis for wii, instead of a remake with forced wii controls of Mario Power Tennis, actually I like the way the game plays in the GameCube and I have no intention of buying it again, what can I say I love pushing buttons, same goes for the rest, I want a new Pikmin, a new Chibi-robo, etc. NEW games for the NEW wii controls, that's how it should be.

The wierdest of all NPC is DK Jungle Beat, I may have get it wrong, but for what I saw in a Nintendo Channel video, the thing change its control to a more classical way!! No more hiting the bongos just move the control stick and push a button to jump, what the heck?

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128. Posted:

The bongo style was the main reason I didn't get DK:JB. It sounds a bit better with these new controls. Reminds me of a homebrew application someone made where they let you use the bongos for Punch Out. It was called Mike Tyson's Jungle Beat! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRwgt2i5cV4

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eugenewrayburn

129. Posted:

As for the topic title :

It is funny when certain people try to 'organise' a (very small) group of people to not buy something, or an online petetion, etc.

I am conservative, I believe people can and will decide what they would want to buy and play for their own personal use. Anyway, out of all these games, I have none, but may purchase Jungle Beat. I am somewhat tempted to buy Metroid Prime 1 as well, I think it is a far better game than Prime 3, which focused on a clisched and forced 'narrative' to move the game....

On the other hand, for whatever reason Prime One is always one of the lowest priced GC games online or at gamestores, you can find it for $7 no problem...so it depends on wether the control is enough for you.

ALso the argument on the first page about the volume of game Nintendo is putting out - well, duh, they loaded the first year of Wii release with many projects, some of which were taken at the expense of the GC which was going nowhere. So that was shrewd of Nintendo to do that, and if they cannot release a AAA title every month or week, or day, - whatever you arbitrarily feel is 'adequate'- at least the games they do release are high quality and worth buying. And to many people that includes New Play Control, some who have played the games, some who have not....

Nintendo has such a high repuation they no longer even release Players Choice Discounted Games to boost sales. (Which is bad for gamers, of course, but the market has decided that) Look how many sales they have gotten out of game like Wii Play, Wii FIt, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart DS, Nintendogs, Smash Brothers, etc, etc, without a drop at retail. The bestselling franchise of last gen, GTA on PS2, cannot say the same thing....

Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.

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hobbes

130. Posted:

Meh... I bought NPC Pikmin and plan to get Pikmin 2 when it is rereleased as well as Metroid Prime 1 and 2. From what I have seen, the GCN Pikmin 2 disc used is selling for more than the NPC wii disc will when it is released, and while I know I could find both the Metroids for less than on NPC game, I would much rather have the wii controls. I find the point aiming scheme better than the dual analog scheme.

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nintendan

131. Posted:

i bought NPC Pikmin the other day for 10$. well worth it considering the GC version goes for much more on ebay.

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RJay

132. Posted:

Even if the NPC games do control better, I think too that Nintendo will be discouraged from trying to make original titles if they can just cash in on the past.

Why should Nintendo hire a full development team to create a new Zelda, when they can remake Wind Waker or something with Wii controls and have it sell millions????

It's not that they don't have the resources to make new games while remaking old ones...

It's that they have no reason to make new games, if remaking old ones and cashing in is more profitable.

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Adam

133. Posted:

nintendan wrote:

i bought NPC Pikmin the other day for 10$. well worth it considering the GC version goes for much more on ebay.

$10?! How did you come across that, was it used?

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AlexSays

134. Posted:

Corbie would try to take my thread off-topic...

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Hey AlexSays, you're on Gamespot too right??? Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me, but many months ago last October I think, I remember arguing with someone on the Wii forums that these NPC games are a bad idea, and I remember his name was AlexSays, and the AlexSays on that forum thought it was a good idea at the time. Are you the same person?

Yes I am and you remember the exact stance of a random user from a debate six months ago? At least a bring a link, chief.

Anyway if you read the original post, you'd see the main point has been there were no new games for about six months, starting in November.

I might have said "eh just don't buy them no big deal" but how could I have known in October that Nintendo would release their last new game for several months in November?
Sure I'm easily one of the brightest around but I've never stamped "psychic" on my resume. lol

You'll still have to provide a link to this little discussion we had.

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Philip_J_Reed

135. Posted:

RJay wrote:

Why should Nintendo hire a full development team to create a new Zelda, when they can remake Wind Waker or something with Wii controls and have it sell millions???? It's that they have no reason to make new games, if remaking old ones and cashing in is more profitable.

Yes, I do think a remade Wind Waker (or any Zelda or Mario title) would sell well. No, I do not believe this will ever discourage Nintendo from creating new entries in the series. If Nintendo (or any company) turned its attention entirely toward its past, it would be doomed to fail, and Nintendo--for all its mistakes--knows better than that. You can remake games from 5 or 10 years ago if you really want to, but if that's all you do, where will you be 5 or 10 years from now? You'll have nothing left to re-release.

AlexSays has a good point at the root of his argument: if you want a company to stop doing something, you stop paying them to do it. Capitalism couldn't get any simpler than that.

But I don't think anyone is making the claim you are arguing against. Nobody in their right mind would say that NPC releases are preventing Nintendo from developing a new Zelda or Mario game.

They MAY be preventing Nintendo from developing a game from a lesser-known series, or from devoting their time to a brand new first-party title of a new series. I do believe that that's possible. At the very least, they are spreading their resources around, which could otherwise be concentrated on original product.

But I don't think we're in danger of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link NPC taking precedence over whatever the heck comes next in the series. These releases are in addition to other new releases, not in place of them.

Could we expect MORE new releases if we didn't have these NPCs coming out? Maybe. It's possible. But it sure as heck isn't going to stop new installments of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin, Mario Kart, and whatever else I'm forgetting.

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Adam

136. Posted:

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link NPC would be awesome. No matter that it makes no sense, but the game ruled and is overdue for a revisiting, whether in an update or a spiritual sequel.

Also, I don't think anyone believes NPC is stopping the development of other games; it is simply allowing them to slow their release schedule moreso than we're used to expecting from Nintendo. I don't think it is the end of the world, but I do think we'd be better off without these titles. If it weren't for these games, Nintendo would have had relatively empty shelves for the past few months before Excite Bots, and you know that wouldn't have sat well with them.

But like they say: Oh well.

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137. Posted:

__adam wrote:

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link NPC would be awesome.

I admit that the moment I typed that, I wanted it. :)

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138. Posted:

Chicken+Brutus wrote:

__adam wrote:

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link NPC would be awesome.

I admit that the moment I typed that, I wanted it. :)

When you get the whistle, that very helpful item that a whole two uses in the whole game, there could be a Wii Music mini-game where you play the Wii remote like a flute!

Dang, what have I done? Now I don't want it.

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139. Posted:

Corbie wrote:

I'm just goofing around. But you'd better be nice considering I just got your app for the news postition. I'd hate to accidentally lose it. You know how easily these things slip through the cracks or get mistakenly deleted. :P

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140. Posted:

LOL I was kidding. You weren't being mean. It's actually Nintendo's PR firm that sends the review copies. :)

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