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WaLuigi1982

Granted I do like nearly every video game system I play. I got to say though I usually get the most out of my Nintendo consoles because of titles like Mario Kart and other great titles.

WaLuigi1982

Adamant

Machu wrote:

So proud of my lovely Ninty for making all that cash. Now, if only they could be a little lot greener, it'll be perfect.

It' not that they're not green, it's that Greenpeace consider everyone evil pollution monsters unless they prove otherwise, and Nintendo doesn't bother doing so. Have you even looked at this so-called report Greenpeace came with?

Adamant

The_Fox

Blue+Protoman wrote:

I say Sony and Microsoft both go burn in hell, Sega returns, and a new company joins.

Sega couldn't even run an ice cream stand, so that won't happen. I'm surprised they're still in business even as a third party developer.

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

-President John Adams

Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

Adam

I think Sega could run an ice cream stand. Of course, every couple weeks they'd create expensive, unnecessary add-ons to the stand, and every month or two they'd replace it with a new stand for no apparent reason. But as long as they have Sonic-shaped popsicles their fanbase will overlook everything else they do.

Come on, friends,
To the bear arcades again.

The_Fox

@Adam

Too true.

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

-President John Adams

Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

thewiirocks

Adamant wrote:

Machu wrote:

So proud of my lovely Ninty for making all that cash. Now, if only they could be a little lot greener, it'll be perfect.

It' not that they're not green, it's that Greenpeace consider everyone evil pollution monsters unless they prove otherwise, and Nintendo doesn't bother doing so. Have you even looked at this so-called report Greenpeace came with?

Amen. They pulled the same crap with Apple. Basically, Dell and Leveno were WAY worse polluters but posted fluff pieces on their websites about things they were maybe going to do to become greener in the future. Meanwhile Apple was greener from the get-go, but took heat from Greenpeace because they didn't have any fluff on their website.

Greenpeace was so effective at this garbage that they targeted Nintendo next, even though they knew that Nintendo was greener.

Sorry, but any respect I might have had for Greenpeace disappeared the moment they pulled these stunts. I could almost understand Apple (despite the lack of any sort of investigative rigor) but the Nintendo thing was nothing more than an attempt to line their pockets at someone else's expense.

thewiirocks

Adam

I don't understand why Nintendo wouldn't let them check out their facilities or whatever if there wasn't a problem. I'm not insinuating I know better (or anything, for that matter, on the subject), just curious what your theories are since you guys seem so certain Green Peace is at fault.

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Come on, friends,
To the bear arcades again.

Machu

Adamant wrote:

Machu wrote:

So proud of my lovely Ninty for making all that cash. Now, if only they could be a little lot greener, it'll be perfect.

It' not that they're not green, it's that Greenpeace consider everyone evil pollution monsters unless they prove otherwise, and Nintendo doesn't bother doing so. Have you even looked at this so-called report Greenpeace came with?

Huh?! I didn't mention any report, I didn't mention Greenpeace, I didn't mention this picture. How could anybody jump to any companies defence in these times? Every flipping company should be doing more to minimize the damage, as you can guarantee they aren't doing as much as they could or should be. You can't really disagree, surely?

When an athlete dodges a drug test, they tend to be banned/fined on the presumption of guilt. If Nintendo have nothing to hide, they should make this information public so as to enhance the companies image.

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thewiirocks

Machu wrote:

Huh?! I didn't mention any report, I didn't mention Greenpeace, I didn't mention this picture. How could anybody jump to any companies defence in these times? Every flipping company should be doing more to minimize the damage, as you can guarantee they aren't doing as much as they could or should be. You can't really disagree, surely?

I can and I will. Nintendo was not asked by Greenpeace. They were given a zero score and then asked, "whatcha gonna do about it, huh?" Rather than folding to these arseholes, they ignored them. Which is a perfectly valid response IMHO. Apple responded to them which Greenpeace took as a legitimization of their tactics.

When an athlete dodges a drug test, they tend to be banned/fined on the presumption of guilt. If Nintendo have nothing to hide, they should make this information public so as to enhance the companies image.

Greenpeace has absolutely no right or authority to be making these judgements. They don't do ANY investigation at all. They just pick a popular company and publicly decry them as eco-terrorists with the intent of propping themselves up.

To follow your analogy, the athlete isn't even being asked to take a test. He's being told that because he never said he took a test before (regardless of whether he did or didn't) he's automatically a dirty, filthy drug user who has no right to live, much less play sports. How does one even respond to such behavior?

Personally, I'd hope that the public would see through it. But you're conclusively proving that the public at large can be pretty dumb.

thewiirocks

Machu

@thewiirocks: Hey, that's unfair, suggesting that the public at large is as dumb as I am.

My first dozen or so Wii Points cards came in a dvd box, with a paper disc, a thick manual, some gumf, and the tiny wii-points card. I have a pile of empty white boxes now. They have improved them slightly since, removing the dvd box and replacing it with a thick card wrap-around, but it's still an immense amount of packaging for a serial number on a card. No matter what you, or Greenpeace say, I personally feel Nintendo (and all other companies) could do much much better.

EDIT: I still love Nintendo ffs. But I also want my favourite company to make efforts to be greener. Ug! I ripped this from somewhere...
"Nintendo comes in at the bottom of the pack, with a slightly improved score due to the low power AC adaptor included with the Nintendo DSi. However, the company showed an increase in greenhouse gas emissions, despite a promise to cut them over the year. These emissions have been growing for the company year on year since 2006."

Don't argue with me on this ok, especially if you are just gonna resort to calling me dumb again, when all I want is Nintendo (and the whole ****ing world) to wake up! Durgh!

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SpentAllMyTokens

^^Wow, that's intense. I don't think they package the cards really at all in the states.

I am way too lazy to think of something clever.
My Backloggery

OldBoy

Machu wrote:

@thewiirocks: Hey, that's unfair, suggesting that the public at large is as dumb as I am.

My first dozen or so Wii Points cards came in a dvd box, with a paper disc, a thick manual, some gumf, and the tiny wii-points card. I have a pile of empty white boxes now. They have improved them slightly since, removing the dvd box and replacing it with a thick card wrap-around, but it's still an immense amount of packaging for a serial number on a card. No matter what you, or Greenpeace say, I personally feel Nintendo (and all other companies) could do much much better.

@Machu Buy your wii points on-line dude There sent instantly to your e-mail and hey presto no wasted material whatsoever ,no journey to the shops etc.I agree with you about nintendo they should show some carbon FP figures and suchlike though I'm not sure they should give em' to greenpeace as they are a very biased organisation so I would like some impartiallity on the subject,but I do agree that every major company should be forced to become greener and have regular enviromental checks to see how they are performing and that goes for every country too but they must also be encouraged via grants and stuff ,gotta remember that these companies only talk when money's involved.
This would be one of the benefits of a totally digital download service for all media,music books films think of all that saved packin and transportation

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Machu

@Luigi78: Don't do online transactions, at all, another one of my many ism's that people don't understand. But that's how I like it!

I like your suggestions about encouraging companies but if I had my way, I'd fine them massive amounts of cash for exceeding agreed levels, or not making efforts to reduce, should get their (companies in general) attention and make them take it seriously.

Back on topic, go Nintendo woooh! takes a deep breathe

EDIT: With regards to Greenpeace, I'm not sure what they are up to, and if they are doing it fairly. But, their motive is sound, even if their methods aren't.

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OldBoy

Dont do online transactions!!! OMG I don't know how I coped before internet transacions,banking, billing,shopping all that stuff.Where did I find the time??? And you get the best prices WIN Personally I love it but each to his own dude and all that
Fines- yep good idea!!.Like it
NINTENDO FTW WOOT PWNAGE!! Keep it clean,nice and green

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Sean_Aaron

Machu wrote:

My first dozen or so Wii Points cards came in a dvd box, with a paper disc, a thick manual, some gumf, and the tiny wii-points card. I have a pile of empty white boxes now. They have improved them slightly since, removing the dvd box and replacing it with a thick card wrap-around, but it's still an immense amount of packaging for a serial number on a card. No matter what you, or Greenpeace say, I personally feel Nintendo (and all other companies) could do much much better.

That keepcase thing was mind-bendingly stupid (though it was handy when the morons at HMV neglected to remove the anti-theft stuff from my Ghost Squad game and I had to cut the box apart to open it. Now I have spare white boxes just in case!). They should sell the cards in kiosks like Apple iTunes gift cards.

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thewiirocks

Machu wrote:

My first dozen or so Wii Points cards came in a dvd box, with a paper disc, a thick manual, some gumf, and the tiny wii-points card. I have a pile of empty white boxes now. They have improved them slightly since, removing the dvd box and replacing it with a thick card wrap-around, but it's still an immense amount of packaging for a serial number on a card. No matter what you, or Greenpeace say, I personally feel Nintendo (and all other companies) could do much much better.

That's a fair argument. However, I will point out that such gift cards are an industry-wide problem. They are often over-packaged in an attempt to add value. However, as another poster noted, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony all provide eco-friendly ways of purchasing digital goods. While I can understand your feelings about online transactions (actually, I can't; but I do respect them! ), you do have to decide what is more important to you: Doing your part to save the environment or your concerns over digital monetary transactions.

FWIW, if you use a credit card (I hear a bit "but" coming here, but I'll continue ) your electronic transactions are protected by your card agreement. In the case your account is improperly charged, you can dispute the charges with the credit card company and they will usually reverse them with little to no hassle. In the case of theft you are technically responsible for up to $50 of that balance, but card companies usually waive that responsibility.

EDIT: I still love Nintendo ffs. But I also want my favourite company to make efforts to be greener. Ug! I ripped this from somewhere...
"Nintendo comes in at the bottom of the pack, with a slightly improved score due to the low power AC adaptor included with the Nintendo DSi. However, the company showed an increase in greenhouse gas emissions, despite a promise to cut them over the year. These emissions have been growing for the company year on year since 2006."

Dude, you need to source these things. Without the source, we can't agree or argue with you. For all we know, you just quoted more BS that Greenpeace pulled out of their arses. Not exactly the best way to win an argument.

Don't argue with me on this ok, especially if you are just gonna resort to calling me dumb again, when all I want is Nintendo (and the whole ****ing world) to wake up! Durgh!

I am sorry for calling you dumb. Anytime we talk about Greenpeace's cowardly tactics, I just get raging mad. They used to be a respectable organization. But these days, they've really become slimebuckets. Especially since the tactics they use are basically defamatory in nature. You can't really defend against such defamation because the defamer can always manage to frame you as the bad guy. I'm open to intelligent discussion about Nintendo's position, but you have to ignore Greenpeace's position. Anything that comes from Greenpeace is just GIGO. Every other source I've been able to find actually demonstrates how green Nintendo is compared to their competitors.

thewiirocks

Machu

@thewiirocks: Don't worry dude, just wish I hadn't said anything in my original post, ha. When I did say "if only they could be a little lot greener" I was responding to a thread about Nintendo's success, and my genuine regret that they don't try a bit harder in regards to the environment. This was not prompted by Greenpeace reports, or stats, but more by my own personal desire to see worldwide change. In another life, I was a hippie, and feel strongly about business taking responsibility for the crap they pump into our skies and oceans. Some people may scoff at global warming, but it is real and I get frustrated by a lack of action. We experienced a different kind of global crisis recently and the powers that be, jumped into immediate action. If only they would do the same for the real crisis facing the planet. The longer we leave it, the worse it will get. But, companies are unlikely to do this voluntarily, so I would like to see governments enforcing major reductions across the board, without this ridiculous trade in carbon-emissions that does nothing to help.

The source I quoted from btw, was in reference to Greenpeace, so I understand if you ignore it. I'm gonna do some research into this, in the hope that Greenpeace aren't as bent as you are suggesting. I get the impression I will be disappointed though.

Back on topic: I <3 Nintendo!

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