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21. Posted:

Midnight3DS wrote:

If Zelda + Skyrim doesn't make your mouth water, I don't know what would.

Zelda + Xenoblade sure would. I couldn't get into Skyrim for long, partly because it seemed detached from fantasy. Most of the setting that I explored in my several hours with the game were woods, old-fashioned/stone villages and caves.

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This might help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith_Soft

http://dudehugespeaks.tumblr.com/post/44243746261/nickels-dimes-and-quarters
http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/why-console-specs-dont-matter
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/200271/Video_Don_Daglow_on_nextgen_transition_traps_and_treasures.php

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Nintendo bought the majority of Monolith after Xenosaga was out. http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/04/27/xenosaga-developer-swi... They later bought out Bandai Namco's remaining stake.

Retro Studios also got bought out by Nintendo after Metroid Prime, though Game Freak is 3rd party, while Nintendo owns the Pokemon IP and all that. (Nintendo just pays big bucks for them to make games exclusively)

Sorry, it really is a little confusing :P.

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They also made Baten Kaitos?! :|
I really have to play that one again, the Xenoblades of the gamecube era.

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So Monolith Soft IS a first party developer for Nintendo? That's what I'm getting anyway.

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@8BitSamurai Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak, which is why it is a second party developer.

A second party classifies any developer or development party that is not owned by a bigger company but shares an exclusivity contract with them. While Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak itself, it still ain't going anywhere because of their contract. By this point, I don't think they even need a contract; GameFreak has understood that its future lies with Nintendo. It's only a matter of time before they settle in with each other and move forward to the next step in their relationship. ;)

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Pardon, but what exactly is a second-party gaming company.

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A second party classifies any developer or development party that is not owned by a bigger company but shares an exclusivity contract with them. While Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak itself, it still ain't going anywhere because of their contract. By this point, I don't think they even need a contract; GameFreak has understood that its future lies with Nintendo. It's only a matter of time before they settle in with each other and move forward to the next step in their relationship. ;)

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@8BitSamurai Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak, which is why it is a second party developer.

A second party classifies any developer or development party that is not owned by a bigger company but shares an exclusivity contract with them. While Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak itself, it still ain't going anywhere because of their contract. By this point, I don't think they even need a contract; GameFreak has understood that its future lies with Nintendo. It's only a matter of time before they settle in with each other and move forward to the next step in their relationship. ;)

Yeah, second-party developer was probably a better wording, but really, nobody here knows the exact details of whatever contracts they have, so 3rd party isn't really incorrect by what we know.

EDIT: Sorry, sorry, my bad, didn't see your old post saying Game Freak was 2nd party right. My bad, my bad. I didn't read it right at all.

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Yeah, Monolith is a 1st party studio, Nintendo owns the whole kit and caboodle, which is good, since Monolith is an amazing developer.

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30. Posted:

Zelda having Bethesda's design influence with Nintendo-level quality control will immediately result in the best game in the series.

IMMEDIATELY.

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31. Posted:

I think Monolith should pitch in to help build the overworld for the new Zelda :O

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I think Monolith should pitch in to help build the overworld for the new Zelda :O

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33. Posted:

@8BitSamurai Speaking of which, do you know where I can get that game for a reasonable price (like not 100$ used)?

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34. Posted:

Well, sometimes people on Ebay and Amazon will sell it for $85-$95. It is a 60+ hour amazing game, so you do get your moneys worth at least. Too bad it came so late in the Wii's lifespan, or they might have done another print. (Then again probably not, considering we barely got it in the first place)

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35. Posted:

@Nobodys_Angel: Thanks, man. So companies like Retro and Intelligent Systems aren't 2nd party, right? So 2nd Party can create games of there own minds without supervision from the 1st-party company, but vow to make games exclusive to that 1st-party company's console?

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8BitSamurai wrote:

Well, sometimes people on Ebay and Amazon will sell it for $85-$95. It is a 60+ hour amazing game, so you do get your moneys worth at least. Too bad it came so late in the Wii's lifespan, or they might have done another print. (Then again probably not, considering we barely got it in the first place)

It wasn't just that it came out late in the Wii lifespan. The Last Story came out even later and they're still selling new copies (from a much smaller publisher, at that). It has to do with the Gamestop exclusivity, a short production run, and ultimately NOA's cold feet about the title. Reggie's body simply wasn't ready for it.

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Nobodys_Angel wrote:

8BitSamurai wrote:

Actually, Monolith is a subsidiary of Nintendo.

Really? Huh. Why was Xenosaga on not-Nintendo then?

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The company was founded on October 1, 1999 by producer Hirohide Sugiura and director Tetsuya Takahashi after they left Square Co. and accepted an investment from Namco.[2] As of May 6, 2007, Nintendo owned controlling interest in the company after Namco Bandai sold 80% of its 96% stake in Monolith Soft to Nintendo. This went into effect May 1, 2007.[3] Later Namco sold the remaining 16%, making Monolith Soft a first-party developer for Nintendo.
The company announced on July 8, 2011 that they were opening up an additional studio in Kyoto, Japan.[4] They are currently developing games for both the Wii U[5] and the Nintendo 3DS.[6]

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38. Posted:

I'll have to read more on this later, but holy cow, the title alone has me excited! :O

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Zelda having Bethesda's design influence with Nintendo-level quality control will immediately result in the best game in the series.

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39. Posted:

The only thing I think Zelda could really take from a game like Skyrim, is the big world. Obviously, no one has any REAL idea outside of Nintendo about the game, but I think a bigger world, interesting large scope sidequests, etc. is what they're going for.
Imagine a sidequest that plays out like a dungeon in the overworld.
Again, no real clue. I just think the scope of the game and design ideas will be trying to make it as realistic as possible, while still retaining the games roots.
The first Zelda was built to explore and do the main quests as well.

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40. Posted:

And I thought having Hyrule Field be as big as the Great Sea was an interesting idea. Skyrim is in a whole nother league.

What would this mean for typical Zelda weapons though? I mean, before you'd always just get one weapon and that'd be the ultimate, hero version of that weapon. It's really a western thing to have a disposable weapon that you just throw away or sell after you find a better one.

Maybe this means that instead of only having the dungeons necessary to move forward, there'd be a hundred different forest temples and a hundred different water temples and fire temples that could be explored at your leisure and are prompted by NPCs. Side questing would be 99% of the game.

Epona would be useful traversing that huge distance, but you'd also have a wider variety of enemies out in the wild, some of which would just flat out overpower you earlier on like Skyrim Giants. Not to mention random boss fights like the Dragon attacks. Does that mean that everything you explore and kill would have a small reward like a new weapon or new armor or something valuable that sells for a lot?

Yes... I'm excited now.

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