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ACK

Giving the Gamepad to my wife or son to activate powers and such while I rock a Pro controller is, by far, my preferred way to play Mass Effect (3, as offered).

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Sssnake36 wrote:

I am playing Mass Effect 3 : SE at the Moment. Its a fantastic game, and works very well with the gamepad. I wish ME4 would coming to Wii U. I think ,its not technical problem. The Wii U could handle it.

That's a fairly bizarre claim when we don't know anything about the specs and technical requirements of the game. Given that it's one of their biggest franchises, chances are it's going to be high-end graphics like the first 3 games, and will therefore be designed to meet the specs of the PS4. In which case the Wii U CANT handle it.

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jasonbrr

Never gonna happen since its EA. IIRC Crysis 3 was 100% finished and apparently looked and ran amazing on the wiiu and EA refuses to put it out. Hell they could just put it out on the eshop and it really wouldnt cost them anything. But they refuse to do even that, so dont expect them to fund actually developing a game for the wiiu.

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midnafanboy wrote:

You know something i remember in 2011,when nintendo showed its system .And there was a developers interviews video,they were talking about how the wiiu will be amazing,finally a controller thats worth making games for .And so on them kissing up to nintendo saying that they will makes games for it and stuff. After they all left saying they will makes games that never showed up on the system.All im saying don't even think abut third party games coming to the wiiu, cause it won't happen.

Well, when you have a CPU slower than a competing 9 year old console, and a small user base that is overly devoted to first party titles, these things happen.

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...Eh, don't really care about EA anymore...they can keep their stuff away from Nintendo.

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Would so love this. Mass Effect 3 was fantastic on Wii U, but I wont buy another console just to play it. Really dislike EA for dissing the Wii U. Seriously, its installed user base is almost the same as the Xbox Ones, at least we should get Fifa, NFS, etc. I feel like theyre taking money for not releasing on Wii U. A failed release a few months after the consoles release doesnt justify their behaviour now two years later...

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Imerion wrote:

Would so love this. Mass Effect 3 was fantastic on Wii U, but I wont buy another console just to play it. Really dislike EA for dissing the Wii U. Seriously, its installed user base is almost the same as the Xbox Ones, at least we should get Fifa, NFS, etc. I feel like theyre taking money for not releasing on Wii U. A failed release a few months after the consoles release doesnt justify their behaviour now two years later...

Yeah but how many people on the Wii U bought ME3?
If you take a ratio of the sales figures to the metacritic score for the game, it's one of the least successful games on the system.

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SCRAPPER392

Dezzy wrote:

Sssnake36 wrote:

I am playing Mass Effect 3 : SE at the Moment. Its a fantastic game, and works very well with the gamepad. I wish ME4 would coming to Wii U. I think ,its not technical problem. The Wii U could handle it.

That's a fairly bizarre claim when we don't know anything about the specs and technical requirements of the game. Given that it's one of their biggest franchises, chances are it's going to be high-end graphics like the first 3 games, and will therefore be designed to meet the specs of the PS4. In which case the Wii U CANT handle it.

Games aren't being built with PS4 or even PC in mind, specifically. There's a reason why 3rd parties are putting practically the same game across all ×86 platforms(Xbox One, PS4, PC), and it's because it's not worth the extra work to get better graphics on PS4 or PC. They would have to spend more money and time to get better graphics, so they make sure everything is running on at least Xbox One, for the most part. This is exactly like last gen, where Xbox 360 the lead platform, and PS3 was a port machine.

The Wii U can run the newest Frostbite engine, which is the game engine Mass Effect 4 will be using. Wii U can run the same engine Ryse ran on, as well.

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Dezzy wrote:

Imerion wrote:

Would so love this. Mass Effect 3 was fantastic on Wii U, but I wont buy another console just to play it. Really dislike EA for dissing the Wii U. Seriously, its installed user base is almost the same as the Xbox Ones, at least we should get Fifa, NFS, etc. I feel like theyre taking money for not releasing on Wii U. A failed release a few months after the consoles release doesnt justify their behaviour now two years later...

Yeah but how many people on the Wii U bought ME3?
If you take a ratio of the sales figures to the metacritic score for the game, it's one of the least successful games on the system.

It doesn't even matter. EA practically sent out ME3:SE and their sports games on Wii U, to die. ME Trilogy was a thing, and they couldn't get their physics engine to run on Wii U properly, which was their fault. They also made limited quantities of ME3 on Wii U, just like Activision did with CoD Black Ops II.

When I went to buy a Wii U on launch, there was like 5 copies of CoD. It's a big Best Buy, too, so now figure any smaller stores would have gotten even less copies. I've read that Need For Speed: Most Wanted U had a limited run, too, and these types of decisions were made before they even knew whether any of those games were going to sell well.

This is all besides that all the ports they've done have been relatively cheap, because most of the work was already done on Xbox 360 and PS3.

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I actually suspect this will be a timed Xbox One exclusive.

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vio

I'm not even sure this "more powerful hardware = more 3rd party support and more sales" argument even holds any water. Nintendo already tried to make more powerful hardware and it didn't work out too well. I'm referring to the Gamecube, which was more powerful than the PS2 and yet the PS2 easily outsold it and the original Xbox(which was the MOST powerful console of that generation) by a HUGE margin... Sure, the Gamecube had better 3rd party support than the Wii U does, but it still got left out for a ton of key titles. No Kingdom Hearts, no GTA... The only Final Fantasy game it got was Chrystal Chronicles, which was a spin-off from the main series. And the only Metal Gear Solid it got was Twin Snakes, which was a remake of the original MGS.

Also, prior to the release of the Wii U, it was Nintendo's worst selling home console. So yeah, powerful hardware doesn't guarantee anything...

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Dezzy

SCAR392 wrote:

The Wii U can run the newest Frostbite engine, which is the game engine Mass Effect 4 will be using. Wii U can run the same engine Ryse ran on, as well.

Yeah but "can run the engine" isn't the same as "can run every game made for the engine". I don't know anything about the engine, and I don't know exactly what they mean by "the Wii U can run the engine" but if the only conversion needed to get it running on the Wii U was to downscale the textures and polycounts a bit, I assume they'd do it. I'm guessing it's harder than that.

vio wrote:

I'm not even sure this "more powerful hardware = more 3rd party support and more sales" argument even holds any water. Nintendo already tried to make more powerful hardware and it didn't work out too well. I'm referring to the Gamecube, which was more powerful than the PS2 and yet the PS2 easily outsold it and the original Xbox(which was the MOST powerful console of that generation) by a HUGE margin.

It's not about just more powerful hardware. It's about attracting the audience. Even if the Wii U had twice as many console sales than the Xbox, a shooter on the Xbox is gonna sell better cos that's where the shooter fans are.

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MourningBrew

It seems silly to me that everybody is still concerned about EA on wii U. I mean, I LOVE my Wii U. But honestly, in the years I've been using Nintendo consoles I've discovered (and before you counterargue I also use PS3 and PC) that the majority of games I play on any system are either exclusive or indie. I've long since given up hope for Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed for me has been dead after Brotherhood with exception of Windwaker AssCred 4 edition, and the usual suspects or "console wh0res" are... Well there's PC with gamepad for that. Fact is, if I'm playing a Nintendo console, which is a LOT of the time, it's exclusive or indie. And EA's loss, to me, has as much impact as a 2gb download on my expandable 3ds 32 gb sd card.

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SCRAPPER392

Dezzy wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

The Wii U can run the newest Frostbite engine, which is the game engine Mass Effect 4 will be using. Wii U can run the same engine Ryse ran on, as well.

Yeah but "can run the engine" isn't the same as "can run every game made for the engine".

Actually, that's most of what it means. You are right that it could be possible that the polygon count, resolution, texture quality, etc. would be lowered, but Wii U is at least able to run all the games Xbox One and PS4 have gotten or will get, besides exclusives, and Wii U still isn't getting those games.

Besides, Wii U's specs are well above Xbox 360 and PS3. Seeing as everything is getting cross-generation games, we're still basically in 7th generation.

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jump

I've tried tweeting a few companies about the possibilities of indie/virtual console games coming to the Wii U before and never got a reply back.

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CaviarMeths

It feels so weird plugging EA, but yeah, just get Origin. The squad-based gameplay benefits from having a keyboard and mouse and entire Mass Effect trilogy is $15 on Origin now (includes DLC, extended cut of ME3, and I think a digital artbook or soundtrack or something). It's a good platform that has constant sales and occasional free games. Even if they wanted to, Nintendo can't compete with that.

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Gamecubed

I'm a big Mass Effect fan. I have the trilogy on PS3, but I also bought ME3 on Wii U, just to support the release. I can openly say that the Wii U is where I like playing ME3, it just runs smoother and it looks a little nicer.

ME4 isn't going to happen on Wii U though, just putting that out there. it'd be nice, yes. I almost want to say that ME4 will be a "timed exclusive" for the XB1, but I can't be certain.

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coad

Has Frostbite 3 ever been ported to the Wii U?

Wii U doesn't only have a power gap over PS4 and Xbox One, but they have an architectural gap. You've got good ol fashion x86 PC's with the big two, and Wii U rocks powerpc. 3rd parties will forever be moving away. Which is 100% fine, unless you rely on the Wii U being your only console due to money constraints etc etc. Then yeah, it stinks.

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coad wrote:

Has Frostbite 3 ever been ported to the Wii U?

Nope. 1.0, 1.5, and 2 were never on Wii/Wii U either. There were a couple Need for Speed games that used Frostbite, but Most Wanted on Wii U doesn't use it.

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SCRAPPER392

coad wrote:

Has Frostbite 3 ever been ported to the Wii U?

Wii U doesn't only have a power gap over PS4 and Xbox One, but they have an architectural gap. You've got good ol fashion x86 PC's with the big two, and Wii U rocks powerpc. 3rd parties will forever be moving away. Which is 100% fine, unless you rely on the Wii U being your only console due to money constraints etc etc. Then yeah, it stinks.

They said they can get it running, but that's about it:
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Could-Get-Frostbite-3-...

The power gap is actually a misconception. Since Wii U is PowerPC and the other consoles are ×86, the specs are just different, period. Other than that, how the specs translate between could go either way, really.
It's not true that 3rd parties will forever be moving away, unless they want all the development time they've put into Xbox 360 and PS3 to be a waste. If they don't develop games on Wii U, they might as well have been developing games for only ×86(which was only PC), for all of last generation. 3rd parties are already struggling with ×86, and it's because they were mainly focused on PowerPC last generation. The obvious examples are Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed Unity, followed by anything else that isn't running perfectly on ×86, which would basically include anything unable to run at at least 1080p at 60FPS. They would have basically already known how to get games like ACUnity, Dead Rising 3, and Second Son running at higher framerates and/or resolutions, just to name a few, if they had been working strictly on ×86, and they didn't, because Xbox 360 and PS3 were around, which is why the continuation of PowerPC through Wii U is important.

It will literally be a waste of knowledge they gathered from developing on Xbox 360 and PS3, if Wii U ends up not getting 3rd party support. In otherwords, 3rd parties will be asking themselves why they developed games on Xbox 360 and PS3, if they don't continue their work on Wii U.

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