Topic: Your opinion on Wii U

@Relias The Dreamcast was actually more powerful than the competition, it was just a pain to develop for and never got popular enough for it to be worth it for developers to try to figure out how to make the best of it

It's an okay console that's not quite doing okay just yet.

It sucks.
But has so much potential.
But even Nintendo isn't doing much with it right now.

I am sorry but what do you mean Nintendo isn't doing much with it right now? Wii Party U, Super Luigi U, Pikmin 3, Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD, Wii Fit U, Super Mario 3D World, Game & Wario, The Wonderful 101 and Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games to name some games between August and December published by Nintendo for Wii U. I count that as a lot, and I didn't even name all of them.

Yeah, this is one of those things where I think people complaining about Nintendo aren't seeing the bigger picture. I do feel much of their recent lineup of games is not living up to their own standards and that some of their choices have been kinda dumb. But, people just need to see the insanely stupid stuff companies like Capcom or Konami or Square Enix have done if they want to see what stupidity actually is.

First of all, 5 million considered a failure. Now to be a bit fair, it's possible that they just had stupid expectations way beyond just making a profit, especially since a sequel is coming out apparently. But still, when your game is one of the top selling games of the year (in terms of AAA console games, I can't name one that's done better) and is still considered a disappointment, you made a really dumb assumption. Even better is Hitman being considered a failure despite BEING THE BEST SELLING GAME IN THAT SERIES. HOW DO YOU DO THAT?! 2nd of all, do I have to mention how in every reality, SE has sent the Wii U ver. of Deus Ex to die? 3rd, the complete embarassment known as Final Fantasy XIII (and the original release of XIV) that has caused people to abandon the franchise like it was the Titanic.

The best part of this? SE is still far, far smarter than Capcom or Konami.

I am a stupid person that forgot about GTA 5. My point still stands though.

Wii U is already my favorite console of all time. I'm blown away at the features alone. Being able to follow the entire NFL season without even having cable, or using a TV at all, watching a YouTube video on my TV while continuing to web surf on the gamepad, video chat with friends, Miiverse communities, posting screenshots, drawings, among other things.

And believe it or not, there are way more great games available than I could possibly afford to download. My online gaming experiences have been a blast, and the gamepad intergration makes all games even better. Off screen play is extremely nice, as well.

I'm on Wii U every day. I've neglected all my other systems, even my PC in favor of it. I find it very hard to believe that anyone who actually owns a Wii U, could be dissatisfied with it.

@DefHalen
You said "from what I have seen". That implies to me you've seen Wii U in full force, which hasn't happened. In otherwords, you've seen the specs and just asked me about them, saw the future and know what Wii U can do 100%, or are basing your thoughts on ports and such that the Wii U has gotten over the past year which isn't all it can do.

Also, I realize you meant closer as in weaker, but it's still not by that much, I think.
I'd actually bet that Wii U is pretty close to performance as Xbox One, but obviously a little less capable. There are already alot of signs to know exactly where that extra power is going. I believe the extra power of those systems will be used to make 4K, possibly more audio channels, Kinect, PS Eye and Move, etc. Alot of the specs take into account that there will be alot of interaction being processed within these machines besides the graphics and stuff.

EDIT: I'm not gonna lie. I think PS4 is probably the most powerful, but that doesn't mean Sony will know how to use the PS4. Just look at the Atari Jaguar. Atari had a high spec machine and couldn't do much of anything with it, even against the Saturn and PS1.

i like how anyone who watched the avgn episode has a better understanding of how the atari jaguar's specs worked :V

also lolspecs as if they matter

I just watched that since you brought it up. All they said was that the accumulation of components added up to a 64 bit system. I'm not really sure exactly what Jaguar can do, but my guess is that it could have been better than it was if everyone had figured how to program for it.

I agree that specs don't matter, but when someone says Wii U is weak, I just gotta step in, but then I'm kind of just as bad. Oh well... All we can do is see in due time.

As far as I know, there's hardly any 3rd party games that aren't exclusive anyway. Dead Rising 3? PS4 can run it. Will it? No.

oh yeah, people are crazy if they think Wii U isn't a pretty powerful machine. Like, Mario Kart isn't a game where the graphics matter to anyone and have never had the best graphics (64 might have considering it was pre-OOT) and yet despite trying to be 60 FPS for 2 player (and from what I understand, that guarantees 30 FPS for at least 4 player btw) yet it looks about as good as Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts without even as interesting an aesthetic (for all people say about Nuts and Bolts, it was a gorgeous game arguably rarely matched for HD games so far as a whole).

Let alone X, which while I disagree is genuinely being considered by some people to be as good if not better looking than FFXV. Even if I disagree, it already looks truly incredible for a seamless open world game.

But again, none of this matters. Because the real winner of this generation is the 3DS anyway so whatever.

Sales aside, I really like where the Wii U is going. I haven't been quite as excited for a console in quite a while, it reminds me of the N64.
I like the gamepad features alot, could be used more in games, though I wouldn't want to see it forced. But yeah, again, sales aside(which is a terrible reason to dislike a console), I'm very pleased with it.

Wii U is a great console and i love it. As someone who is primarily a PC gamer, i bought a Wii U to complement my library options since most 3rd party games wont come to Wii U but will come to PC while Wii U has a large exclusive library.

I think though the Wii U faces a bit up an uphill climb due to things such as :Lack of Proper Marketing, A bit to many platformers on the way, and lack of an universal account system.

Wii U is one of Nintendo's finest consoles to date. I do love the GamePad, the Pro Controller is superb, the Miiverse communities, the massive improvements in Web browser and Shop, and the whole UI. It's a new concept, one with great potential but that still needs to be explained to people. I think Nintendo's mistake was that they though the thing would sell itself like the Wii did. But the GamePad is not as straight-forward as the Wii Remote.
We will have 1st party experiences unparalleled by the competition as we use to, but the 3rd party support will be slim as it's been since the N64. Wii U will start selling better and building a sizeable install base and it does have the power to handle multiplatform games from PS4/Xbox One, perhaps with a little downgrade in polygons/ resolutions/etc. We still still won't have the games. Because of "reasons".

A fantastic underrated machine that needs more exposure.

Bought the console day one and I own over 20 retail games for it. It's absolutely amazing.

I haven't purchased a Wii U yet. There are plenty of games that I would buy if I had the system already, but not a single game that I would consider worth buying a new system over. It seems like Nintendo just wanted to rush the system out as fast as possible and were maybe developing these games a year ahead of time when they should have had at least one big game in development 2-3 years before the launch of the console. Skyward Sword should have gotten a graphical overhaul and been a launch title exclusive to the Wii U. On the one hand, they probably sold more copies of the game, but they lost a valuable opportunity to sell more systems.

What they need to have been doing now is to have gotten a third party developer like Id or High Voltage to make a Metroid game, or perhaps get Platinum to make a Kid Icarus game after Bayonetta 2. From what they've announced, I'd say they'd either better have a killer app they're being quiet about, or X will have to be really successful. Otherwise, the Wii U has already failed.

Not that I would expect the PS4 or Xbone to do much better. I don't think any of the nex gen consoles will be all that successful. There's nothing new or interesting about a single one of them.

Skyward Sword was the only Zelda game exclusive to the Wii. Twilight Princess is essentially a GameCube port. Many people waited for years for that game on their Wii, many people would be mad if they shifted it to Wii U. Me, included, I wanted to play the game in 2011, not a year later. And do you suggest replacing the Wii Motion Plus gameplay that defined SS for classic controls on the GamePad?
On some things we agree. Nintendo should have a "triple A" ready for the launch. And the PS4 and Xbox One are dull as toast, I expect this generation to shift many millions of consoles less than the previous one. No home console will probably sell 100 million again.
I expect Wii U to fare better than Nintendo 64, but that's it. Great Nintendo games that are unmatched by any other developers, some more franchises brought back( Starfox, F-Zero, oh please!) and a lack of multiplatform 3rd party games. Even N64 had some good 3rd party games to digest in between the Nintendo masterpieces, so we'll be good.

I never claimed that I have seen what Wii U can do 100% but also we have not seen what XB1 and PS4 systems can do 100%. There are a lot of things that can be done on the Engine side of games to use the power of the consoles in different ways. From the evidence I have seen the Wii U looks weaker than Xbox One or PS4. That is what I said and meant. That doesn't mean I think the Wii U is a "weak" system just that, from what I have seen it appears to be closer in power to the 360 and PS3. I would love for a company to prove me wrong but what I have seen doesn't do that. Wii U is a powerful system, defiantly more powerful than the 360 or PS3. Does any of this clear that up for you? Do you have an opinion about my Second Screen experience ideas that I originally talked about?

my opinion: sexy piece of hardware with no games just waiting for the games.