Topic: Your opinion on Wii U

I think its a great system with a lot of potential. It needs more Marketing and third party support.

@DefHalen
Wii U IS a next gen step, though. It's already been proven Wii U is a more capable system than 7th gen in basically every way. Even the online interface could be MUCH better if Nintendo programmed it to do so.

The Wii U's technology step isn't that drastic and we can see that PS4 and XB1 will step a lot higher than the Wii U did when we compare them to 360 and PS3. The reason why Wii U is a "Next-Gen" experience is because of the Gameplay differences, not because of its power.

That's not true, though. It has the enhanced gameplay AND a stronger CPU + GPU combination than 7th gen.

EDIT: The CPUs in the Wii U by themselves can run the ports it has gotten without harnessing the GPGPU much at all.

honestly Wii U is looking more tempting by the day - I still can't see getting it until there's a pretty substantial (like, costs-250-total-substantial) price drop, but it's sneaking its way into becoming a pretty desirable little machine.

But its power is closer to 360 and PS3 than XB1 and PS4, from what I have seen. So what I said is true. I am not saying the Wii U is the same as 360 or PS3, I do agree it is stronger than those but it is weak compared to XB1 and PS4. Unless you have some tech specs I don't, would you mind posting them?

The first 5 months of 2013 were disappointing in terms of new game releases as Lego City Undercover was the only noteworthy game released that was not an updated version of an already existing game which was a real shame after such a great launch in November.

But from June starting with New Super Luigi U we have had 1 or 2 decent Wii U game/s a month, not to mention the eshop is getting more titles.
There are plenty of Wii U titles to keep me busy during the rest of 2013 like Super Mario 3D World and Sonic Lost World and also on the eshop Scram Kitty & his buddy on rails which is a Wii au exclusive is shaping up really well if the recent demo I played is anything to go by. Looking at 2014 I am excited about DKCTF, MK8, Bayonetta 2, Yarn Yoshi & Watchdogs however it remains a serious concern that if Wii U sales do not pick up and a few million are not shifted in the next few months then 3rd party support may dry up even further.

Overall I think Wii U is a fantastic system and features like Miiverse can really add to a game (see WWHD) and show what makes Wii U unique.
The gamepad works really well and even just been used as a menu like in WWHD and Darksiders 2 really helps improve the overall flow of a game.
I am confident that with the games already released and the upcoming titles Wii U sales will finally pick up this Christmas however as already mentioned Wii U needs more third party games because as amazing as some of the 2014 titles are going to be these 6 or so titles will not be enough to people who are looking to buy a Wii U and looking what other titles are going to be released.

On a slightly separate but still relevant note I believe part of the problem with the "lack" of games is that people have grown up and now have disposable income. When I think back to my first console (N64) I got two games a year (birthday & Christmas) and this was enough as generally there was only around 3/4 big titles released in a year but it did not matter because we were never going to be in a position where we could have played them all and be saying there is nothing to play.
Now we have grown up and earn money we can buy titles when we want meaning we get through more and therefore are more likely to be thinking there are not enough games. I know if I was still 8 years old and was told I could only have 1 Wii U game and 1 3DS game I would have a very tough choice to make!

Mine is used almost daily now, either to play games or to use the incredible browser when im not in the mood to sit in front of my desctop PC.
The system itself has so much potential as it is almost a home console version of Nintendos DS handheld family (2 Screens, one touch operated)
Although i cant understand all the cries for third party support, as it mostly means that we would get watered down versions of games made for the upcomming new systems. That turned out to be shovelware almost all the time on the Wii, so why repeat that ?
Yes, third party support could also mean exclusive titles, but seeing how Ubisoft for example cant even afford one shot titles on the new systems anymore and seeing how focused big devs are on these systems, exclusive titles are pretty much outruled.
The best titles on Nintendo consoles and handhelds have always been first (or second) party games, and thats what im here for to be honest. I buy consoles completely based on their exclusive content and based on that, you cant go wrong with nintendo.
If you want a larger pool of games then you should elsewhere, although i would say that a larger game pool doesnt necessarily mean that you get more variety.

That means you haven't seen anything.
http://www.ign.com/blogs/yodasboy/2013/03/07/wii-u-graphics-v...

Think about it. The Wii U has 4 times as much RAM as the Xbox 360 or PS3, with 1GB being completely left for the system OS. In literal terms, that means the Wii U can do twice as much on a system and software level.

The Wii U also has a GPGPU running at 550hz vs. a GPU running at 500hz. GPGPUs can run twice as much data as a GPU, and it's running at 50hz of a faster rate.

The difference is that it's based off PowerPC, similarly to Xbox 360, but it has been basically doubled by other means than just straight-up taking everything to PC land.

EDIT: Just based on that Mass Effect screenshot in the article, Wii U is clearly better, as it should be.
EDIT2: BTW, I realize that this is a blog. The info is all correct, though.

Ok so how does that disprove what I am saying? Basically what I am saying is the Wii U is more powerful than 360 and PS3 but XB1 and PS4 are more powerful than Wii U. You are focusing so much on the power side of things that you missed everything else I focused on. My original post focused on "Second Screen" Experiences, not power.

@DefHalen
Well then I guess we have our own definitions of power, then. I don't what you mean by "closer to Xbox 360 or PS3". If you're talking about where the Wii U's architecture derives from, then yes.

@SCAR392

Did you fully read any of my posts? It feels like you skimmed them and just took parts where it sounded like I attacked Wii U and tried to fight me on those. My post had almost nothing to do with power except where I was trying to have readers understand how Wii U is still Next-Gen even with its power limitations. You are also half quoting a sentence where the full sentence states "But its power is closer to 360 and PS3 than XB1 and PS4, from what I have seen." Where I mention that the Wii U is more powerful but not nearly as powerful as the upcoming competition. So if you did not read my full post please do so and then comment. Sorry if this sounds like I am attacking you, I am just trying to get us on the same page so we can have a more intelligent conversation.

That should give you an idea of where the industry is going and why it is about to collapse soon. A company releases a game that sells 5 million copies and it's considered a business failure. Nintendo can release a game, sell 700.000 copies and still make a profit out of it.

WiiU is a good system. Of course there are issues, mainly related to marketing strategy, advertising and poor choices by Nintendo - but the first year in a console's life is always a trial to test the waters, so you can't expect them to get everything right. One thing that never changes though, is Nintendo's fanbase - they have short memory!! They have been moaning and complaining about the same things for more than 15 years, yet in retrospect everything looks brilliant!!

I completely agree with you. I am worried about a collapse happening and I have some thoughts on how it could be avoided but probably won't be.

I think the Wii U is a better effort than the N64, gamecube or Wii, but still I won't buy it because of lack of third party support, I like a few nintendo first party games such as their 2d platformers and fire emblem (and pokemon which doesn't count for the Wii U since its handheld exclusive) but the few first party titles I like are not enough for me to justify buying a console

My opion is it has the games I want to play

I, personally love the Wii U, though it lacks games (so far) but i dont feel like people and other companies should shun it, Nintendo CAN make more games for it and they all have potential in their own way, especially with Nintendo Exclusive content, i haven't played Rayman legends, but the whole Nintendo costumes, that was interesting, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wii U edition, Nintendo costumes, loved that, i feel as if their just looking down on it and automatically feeling like it will suck like the Wii (which wasnt that bad at all) i enjoyed it, but to take it as far as saying WiiU is the same as Wii is basically saying they didnt give it a chance and they instantly judged it thinking it was the same just with a higher price and different controller, honestly you dont always 'have' to use the Gamepad, you can BUY a pro controller and play games like any other, i feel as if the whole off-screen should be a HUGE deal, because it is, you cant say you've changed the settings on your damn Xbox or Ps3 and playing on the controller, now that poopiedoodoocacapoopsiedoodlepoos, is awesome.
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It's a transition system. Basically we are going from the 7th generation to the 8th, and Wii U is the first system. Which means most likely it's going to be the weakest system of this generation. For Instance Sega Dreamcast was a transition system that did not have the power of the other systems of it's generation. That does not mean it's a bad system or that some of the games don't look jaw dropping. But it does mean that it was or at least did not look as powerful as it should of, compared to the other systems of that generation.(Gamecube,PS2,XBOX) The Dreamcast a lot of times looked somewhere between someone putting a CD rom on your N64 and truly next generation. (As it's total power if I remember correctly allowed for the most part) For most generations there has always been a transition system (Turbo Grafx 16 looked better then Nintendo sometimes, and had better hardware, but then sometimes looked worse then Nintendo or equal to it, after that I believe as far as really popular systems go there was Sega Saturn which at times looked about as good as a Sega CD game, and then sometimes had really good 32 bit graphics, after that you had Sega Dreamcast, and after that you had XBOX 360 though the trend kind of got broken here considering the Wii was actually the weakest system of that generation) So it does not surprise me that the Wii U will be the weakest system of this generation, However that does not mean that the games are not going to be impressive, and maybe at times look even better then the competition.(Mush like the transition systems in the past) I think the Wii U is a fantastic system, though it may be lacking in games and the third party situation while most likely improving with Wii U sales, probably will not get any better, but for me personally that is perfect. So I think it's all good. LOL. I don't need to be spending as much on games as I do utility bills every year.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASICALLY give the Wii U a chance before automatically assuming its the same as the wii

@Relias The Dreamcast was actually more powerful than the competition, it was just a pain to develop for and never got popular enough for it to be worth it for developers to try to figure out how to make the best of it