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Topic: Will Wii U take off this winter season?

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shingi_70

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If were being honest unless you really like JRPGs than Wii U+Steambox would be the way to go.

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Sony_70 wrote:

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Halo 10/10... Buy Doritos and Mountain Dew... Eat and play good... Fill my bank account with credits ;)
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I find the whole games media to be too close to the industry they report on. With big AAA's the media may sometimes get paid off or just want to get a job in the industry. In the case of indies its hard to take reviews seriously when your friends with these guys. Even when the media is known for being fair and passionate it comes off as a bit off. I love Super NVC but seeing Rich and Audury basicly get jobs at nintendo leaves me feeling weird. I find the IGN playstation team to be too damn close to sony even if shows how down to earth they are. Those brahs might as well.just join or replace the PlayStation blog.

Colin isn't too bad, I've heard him get critical of Sony at times but Greg is ridiculous. I don't dislike the guy like a lot of people do, but he takes fanboy to another level. You could pay him to and he probably still wouldn't say an even slightly negative word directed at Sony.

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WiiULoveSquid

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Then turn not pale, beloved snail, but come and join the dance. Wii U, won't you, Wii U, won't you, Wii U join the dance?

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kkslider5552000

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PokeTune wrote:

OptometristLime wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Now one thing I needed to point out, people need to stop assuming that the key for Wii U to win is to get as many multi-console games as possible.
Having those unquestionably make the console look more varied and are a good thing, but let's be honest, even if Wii U becomes a big deal after this holiday season, how many of these games will be popular on Nintendo?

Having poorly selling 3rd party titles can be far worse for the company than not having those games at all. What they should be doing is focusing on helping a few of the big multi-console titles be successful (especially from Ubisoft), and the rest on using their own brand name to, in some way or another, work with less gigantic companies to elevate their games to mainstream popularity. That way they not only have more 3rd party games that people buy, but potentially more exclusive ones and from companies that have a reason to be grateful to Nintendo specifically.

I'm not sure if this is a big insight or not, but it sure does make sense to me.

Not to me. Honestly why would any Nintendo gamer not want 3rd party titles? Have we learned nothing from the last 3 console generations? Having multiplats will help give the console more value to both the public and games alike, not having them leaves you with a valueless(for now anyway) console ala Wii U.

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305. Posted:

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Then turn not pale, beloved snail, but come and join the dance. Wii U, won't you, Wii U, won't you, Wii U join the dance?

Wait your turn.
let's not with images of pole-dancing please — TBD

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MAB

306. Posted:

@Wavesta is gonna drop $400 ($550AU) on the PS4 as soon as his fave game of all time hits the PSN in digital download form ;)

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@Wavesta is gonna drop $400 ($550AU) on the PS4 as soon as his fave game of all time hits the PSN in digital download form ;)

LMAO, stop reminding me of this nasty 32-bit nightmare! Possibly one of the worst rental decisions i've ever made back in my not so toobular tween years. ;) With that out of the way it still looks more appealing than anything on the Bro Box or Pistol Station.....Ok, probably not, but it's definitely worth a watch just for the unintentional akward broken gaming LOLs. ;)

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rallydefault

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@Sony_70

That's great that you've built your own PC, but I still must disagree with you. I don't think the PC market is becoming niche. I see more and more people becoming interested in building their own rig and coming over to PC gaming because of the lower costs and amount of customization. PS4 and Xbone, to many, are showing their true colors: simplified PC architecture with a lower initial cost, but a much higher long-term cost in terms of games, controllers, and another paywall for internet gaming. PS4 and Xbone literally offer nothing that a PC can't do (and better), while the Wii U does. More people are realizing this, and I believe that PC gaming will actually grow.

I don't know if you read PC-centered sites like PC Gamer and such, but you can do some poking around and find plenty from more knowledgeable sources that support this theory of growth for the platform. If you have time, go ahead and take a look. Just look at the developers that are now going out of their way to talk about their PC versions and how much time will be put into them - that wasn't happening for the last 8ish years or so, but it's starting to happen again as people get wise to what's really going on.

@brooks83

It does prove that the population is there, which is why I used it. And even if you don't want to look at the money it grossed, look at games like Diablo III, only on PC, selling 3.5mil copies in its first 24 hours. Or WoW selling nearly 12 million boxes at its peak. That's a lot of PC gaming no matter how you slice it. My point is: the PC audience IS big and will become more of a presence.

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banacheck

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If PC gaming was taking off i don't think we would see Diablo III & many other PC exclusives coming to consoles, [simplified PC] please let use know when you've built a PS4 or any other console for that matter, because sorry your never going to do it with off the shelf PC parts.

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uptownsoul

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@DefHalan you didn't use my source against me, you just rehashed an old conspiracy theory.  Yeah, we know, Microsoft & Sony buy up meticritic to get better scores.  They also must be buying up all the tv air waves to prevent Nintendo from making any wii u commercials whatsoever, right?  Look give me a ratings site you trust that rates all the games from all 4 consoles (wii, wii u, ps3, 360) and I'll bet dollars to donuts the numbers will still be relatively the same.

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DefHalan

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uptownsoul wrote:

@DefHalan you didn't use my source against me, you just rehashed an old conspiracy theory.  Yeah, we know, Microsoft & Sony buy up meticritic to get better scores.  They also must be buying up all the tv air waves to prevent Nintendo from making any wii u commercials whatsoever, right?  Look give me a ratings site you trust that rates all the games from all 4 consoles (wii, wii u, ps3, 360) and I'll bet dollars to donuts the numbers will still be relatively the same.

Your source was Metacritic
I used Metacritic to prove what the person, you were trying to prove wrong, was actually right. I personally don't trust any reviews. For me to build an opinion on a game, I play it. How do I determine what to play? I do my own research on what company is making the game and what style the game is in, maybe watch a few gameplay videos on YouTube, if there is commentary I normally mute it. I have played games considered to be garbage but I enjoyed them and I have found some games considered to be fantastic that I thought were terrible.

But lets get back to the conversation: "Will the Wii U take off this winter season?"

  • I hope so, if not we could have a repeat for the GameCube years... which wasn't that bad.

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uptownsoul

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@DefHalan I apologize! I'm sorry I thought you made the conspiracy theory, I'm sorry. It was @feline2 on post 278 who said "I'm sorry really meticritic. Sony & Microsoft buy their reviews". Without any proof, @feline2 that is a conspiracy theory.

And again I formally apologize to @DefHalan

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rallydefault

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banacheck wrote:

If PC gaming was taking off i don't think we would see Diablo III & many other PC exclusives coming to consoles, [simplified PC] please let use know when you've built a PS4 or any other console for that matter, because sorry your never going to do it with off the shelf PC parts.

@banacheck
... lol

Don't look now, but consoles ARE made out of PC components. Rut roh, eh? You don't build your own rigs, do you? Some of the CPU/GPU might be under an exclusive name or reformatting for the console it's in, but don't be fooled: it's basically the same exact thing. Blizzard is bringing Diablo III to PS4 to make more money. You don't think 3.5 million copies sold on PC in 24 hours is impressive? Most console games that are considered successes rejoice if they sell more than 1 million copies. Diablo III is the fastest-selling PC game of all time - they did more than well, but they also want more money. It's not a "sign" of anything, my friend, it's just a company being a company. The more platforms or shelves your stuff is on, the better chance you have at making sales.

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uptownsoul

314. Posted:

How do pc's (which I agree beat out any console) prove anything about any console?

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tovare

315. Posted:

I think the Wii U will sell over 10 million units the next 5 months.

Major drivers include:

  • Backwards compatability with Wii combined with the age of the currently installed base and a lot more people have HD TV's than in 2006.
  • Catalog of games is reaching a point where it's a not a huge issue.
  • First party exclusives. Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong.
  • A lot of kids have birthdays this time of year which will generate further Wii U demand for christmas.
  • Nintendo probably has a positive surprise for the october upgrade.

I'll look up this thread in 2014 and see how it went :-)

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rallydefault

316. Posted:

uptownsoul wrote:

How do pc's (which I agree beat out any console) prove anything about any console?

What do you mean?

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skywake

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uptownsoul wrote:

Sorry I misquoted @RallyDefault so I'm reporting my stats with correct quote.

"...using the reviews and statistics so many of you just LOVE to cite, Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity." - @RallyDefault  Oh really?!?!  Well on PS3 there are 47games (some 1st party, some 3rd, all playable on ps3) that rated 90+ from meticritic(a game review consolidation site).  47 games in 7 years of ps3 which comes to 6.7 games per year that had 90+ consolidated score or higher, playable on the ps3.  

360 had 48 games in 8years which comes to 6 games per year at 90+ rating.

The Wii had 14 games in 7 years which comes out to 2 90+ rated games per year.

The Wii U has zero games rated 90+ .

So @RallyDefault you were saying about highest rated games?

Statement: "using the reviews and statistics so many of you just LOVE to cite, Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity"

Statistics, highest rated games "of all time" listed by developer first and third party
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/al...
#1 Rockstar
#2 Nintendo
#3 Nintendo
#4 Neversoft
#5 Rockstar
#6 Valve
#7 2D Boy
#8 Irrational Games
#9 Naughty Dog
#10 Rocksteady

all time top scores going back further than metacritic. Metacritic stops at ~2005, these guys go back to the mid 90s
http://www.gamerankings.com/
#1 Nintendo
#2 Nintendo
#3 Nintendo
#4 Rockstar
#5 Namco
#6 Rockstar
#7 Nintendo
#8 Naughty Dog
#9 Valve
#10 Retro Studios

Checkmate

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kkslider5552000

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I'm just here to point out that World of Goo being that critically acclaimed makes me happy.

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OptometristLime

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rallydefault wrote:

banacheck wrote:

If PC gaming was taking off i don't think we would see Diablo III & many other PC exclusives coming to consoles, [simplified PC] please let use know when you've built a PS4 or any other console for that matter, because sorry your never going to do it with off the shelf PC parts.

@banacheck
... lol

Don't look now, but consoles ARE made out of PC components. Rut roh, eh? You don't build your own rigs, do you? Some of the CPU/GPU might be under an exclusive name or reformatting for the console it's in, but don't be fooled: it's basically the same exact thing. Blizzard is bringing Diablo III to PS4 to make more money. You don't think 3.5 million copies sold on PC in 24 hours is impressive? Most console games that are considered successes rejoice if they sell more than 1 million copies. Diablo III is the fastest-selling PC game of all time - they did more than well, but they also want more money. It's not a "sign" of anything, my friend, it's just a company being a company. The more platforms or shelves your stuff is on, the better chance you have at making sales.

To recap, Diablo 3 coming to PS3 is like crumbs from the king's table falling to the... peasants?
A terrible analogy, but people are taking this debate so serious. o.o

IMO the overwhelming success of Blizzard's IP's has prompted a one-off diversion to console. Of course it's not the first time something like that has happened, but it is a rarity this gen. Certain genres have not (ever) fared well on console; it really is an apples to oranges debate, but the pears only see in envious shades of green.

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I see where this is going... Game formats are pretty flexible if you haven't noticed.
Diablo III on PS3/4 and PC. With all this talk of games on different platforms, it doesn't really matter as long as it plays the game.
They figured out how to get Doom on the SNES if I recall.
The Wii U is capable of getting basically any 8th gen game, and that means it will probably be getting ports of 8th gen multiplats all generation.

As far as I'm concerned, Wii U has the GamePad, Wii remotes, and can run 8th gen games(based on COD: Ghosts) at full 1080p @ 60Hz. That should be more than enough until 4k gets more popular. Even then 4K TVs upscale with up to 90% accuracy so it still looks good.

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