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21. Posted:

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I can actually read the text on fortune street!

... and then you realise the text isn't that interesting :P

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I thought it was just clearer from being played through HDMI and the Wii U syncing better than the Wii to HDTVs. I did notice it was clearer, and there was no lag from the console in games like Mega Man and Dance Dance, but does that still count as upscaling? Maybe I'm getting mixed up from that device(Dolphin?) that recodes things better or something...? Definately though, the Wii U plays the Wii games way better through HDMI, than Wii through component cables. Mine says it's running 1080p, but it still looks 'more dry', than the Wii U. Just old tech.

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akabenjy

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I agree that Skyward Sword and The Last Story do not look improved however I was playing Grand Slam Tennis and it is like Night & Day between the Wii and WIi U. I understand the graphics aren't very good to begin with but it is so much crisper on the Wii U.

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Yeah, the Wii games look so much better on the Wii U. The color seems much sharper to me.
However, I also noticed that the games seem a bit more pixelated at the edges of color, especially in bright games like Return to Dreamland. It's hardly noticeable, but you can kind of spot individual pixels a bit easier if you look reaaallly closely. I guess that must be a side effect of the upscaling, or maybe I'm just imagining it. Even with a slightly more blocky Kirby, though, I find that the upscaling is definitely a nice plus.

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When using Component(Blue,Red,Green) cables Wii games in 4:3/full screen look super sharp/clear and crisp on the HDTV's i've played it on(Raising sharpness helps a lot to, plasma's especially). Sticking it in 16:9/Widescreen however is a big fat no no, unless you want a duller, blurrier and nastier look. 640x480p(Wii games) equals a 4:3 ratio , if you're playing your wii games in widescreen then you're doing it wrong. Maybe that lousy anamorphic widescreen is more asthetically pleasing to some, but i just can't bare it. :p 4:3 all the way, Hell, SSB Brawl looks HD-like on my 60" plasma. Rinse, repeat. Same crap i've been spewing out for months now when the topic arises, but you guys should really toggle between Full screen and widescreen with your HDTV remote in-game(Wii) to se the difference for yourself. a complete night and day difference based on every one of my experiences. to each their own, but i completely favor that ultra crisp/clear image. Even the image looks slightly brighter and everything in motion just overall looks better in full screen.

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SCAR392

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Ya the makes sense Waveboy. What about putting it into 16:9, and then switching it to full screen? I have heard 4:3 is better in the VC games case, but I do think I would rather have more on screen than just being clearer(both would be best of course). I used to turn GCN games onto widescreen before even knowing what the hell an HDTV was and prefered that most of the time... Would that be the same case you think?

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@SCAR392

It's all personal preference dude.

Do you want that more immersive and grander Widescreen look and feel, but with Blurrier graphics, a slightly less brighter image and even weaker motion OR do you want to box it in at 4:3/full screen with 'proper' beautiful stunning crisp 'n clear picture quality? everything just looks 'right' in full screen.

I was playing around with super mario galaxy, metroid Prime 3 and SSB Brawl on my Wii, on my 60" 1080p plasma
the other night and i could not for the life of me opt for widescreen. I loved toggling back and forth between the two
ratio's just to see the striking difference in quality. Again, it's whatever you like. I'm just pointing out the difference in quality. There's been a lot of chit chat
about this topic in the Nintendo AVS forums, members were getting extremely tech-savy as usual and explained why
the difference occurs and blah blah. But at least with the Wii U we'll be getting 'true' widescreen with
the 1280x720 and if we're lucky 1920x1080 HD resolutions. B-)

I'm going to unbox my wii u in a few days here. I most likely won't be using HDMI though(wondering if the HDMI
would provide even better PQ for wii games aside from supporting 1080p) considering my Panny plasma actually does only 1 frame/16ms of input lag 'through' component which feels absolutely amazing. HDMI bumps up the lag a bit....But it still works pretty good, just not 'as' good as component. This 2011 panny' plasma was a tough find. I have one of the two best plasmas to game on period as far as panasonic plasma's go. They're the S30 and ST30 from last year which only do 1 frame through component. Sadly the 2012 panny plasma's are rocking about 3 frames....I owned one, plus i played around with the upper end models and i just couldn't game on them. pretty dissapointing, the 2011 S30 and ST30 are a gamers wet dream and are considered the wholy grail of plasmas to game on. I couldn't imagine going back to my 42", this 60" is too bloody amazing. :p

To top it off, the black levels are amazing. in the dark they practically melt & blend right into the bezel. Plus it's super bright and colorful in Game/Vivid mode. Ya, i'm pretty stoked...Considering i got it mint for only $850 in my area. I'm pretty sure it went for about $1599 when it came in March 2011. Oh, and hopefully the Wii U supports component for picture and HDMI for 'audio' This was possible on the PS3, but i get the feeling NIntendo kept things straight to the point and simple. eek!

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So sweet! I'm glad to hear this! @Jellitoe actually made news of this before Nintendo Life did. I can't wait to play the Metroid Prime trilogy again!! Oh and Super Mario Galaxy should be amazing!!!

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SCAR392

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Ya, you have to choose one cable. It would be cool if Nintendo let you use the bluetooth to send signals to a reciever like an bluetooth media device. I'm stuck with stereo for now though... my systems pretty beat up from blasting it 14 hours straight at a party, so I need a new one anyway.

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30. Posted:

Jellitoe wrote:

I noticed people complaining about colors being washed out. I noticed in twilight princess that colors seems less dark, brighter especially in the first couple of screens. I for one like it better this way, things seem clearer. But yes things are brighter on the Wii U than the Wii. But again, everything is clearer, more crisp, and way better to look at. Makes even older Wii games seem new and fresh (on HDTV).

That shouldn't be. When I tested Super Metroid I noticed that the colors looked much better at 1080p than they did if I set the system to 480p and let the TV upscale (as the Wii did).

Do you have your black level set correctly? The Wii U should use the limited range, or "low" setting. If you use the full "high" range (which is what the Wii did over component) then the picture will look overly bright and weak. My TV auto-adjusted to high for some reason when I started using it and I thought my games looked crappy and washed out too.

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TWK

31. Posted:

Lan wrote:

Jellitoe wrote:

My Wii U is set to run on 1080 as a default
I did not mess with any of the Wii settings for the Wii U, so I am assuming the Wii U is running the Wii at 480p or 720p (upscaled) not 1080.
There is a small border (black) when I switch to the Wii from the Wii U, not sure if anyone else has noticed this. This border goes away when in Wii U mode.
The border is small and you forget its there when playing (at least in my experience.)

I also have that border when using the internet browser

Your TV must have some overscan issues. You can adjust this for each application on the Wii U. You can find adjustments for the Internet Browser in its settings. Then you should be able to get the browser to fit on your screen.

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32. Posted:

WiiSports looks loads better on WiiU.

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Jellitoe

33. Posted:

romulux wrote:

Jellitoe wrote:

I noticed people complaining about colors being washed out. I noticed in twilight princess that colors seems less dark, brighter especially in the first couple of screens. I for one like it better this way, things seem clearer. But yes things are brighter on the Wii U than the Wii. But again, everything is clearer, more crisp, and way better to look at. Makes even older Wii games seem new and fresh (on HDTV).

That shouldn't be. When I tested Super Metroid I noticed that the colors looked much better at 1080p than they did if I set the system to 480p and let the TV upscale (as the Wii did).

Do you have your black level set correctly? The Wii U should use the limited range, or "low" setting. If you use the full "high" range (which is what the Wii did over component) then the picture will look overly bright and weak. My TV auto-adjusted to high for some reason when I started using it and I thought my games looked crappy and washed out too.

Got me wrong bud, I wasn't complaining about it, I was simply stating that people were saying that the colors looked washed out. In my case I see everything more crisp, bright and less hazy, I prefer it this

I reached out to Nintendo to see what is the official stance on why Wii games seems better on Wii U, hopefully they will send me a technical answer instead of a lame response.

EDIT -"They gave me a lame response - " Unfortunately, we do not have exact information about why some Wii games look better on Wii U. However, since the Wii U console has improved hardware, it supplies great video quality even for older games.

I know you were probably hoping for more information. If you have any further questions or concerns, feel free to visit our website at http://www.nintendo.com/wiiu."

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SanderEvers

34. Posted:

The WiiU does NOT upscale Wii games. Which is quite imposible, because modern day computers can't emulate the Wii @ 1080p with 60fps. What the WiiU does, however, is upscale the video output of the console. Which means that the output is always the resolution you set it to. (1080p over HDMI) which upscales the picture of Wii games which are still rendered @ 480p.

All 1080p TVs are natively 1920x1080 pixels. No matter what input you'll give it. So your TV will automatically upscale the picture. But on cheaper TVs this will make the image look worse. The Wii U does the same thing by itself and does a better job at it than most cheap HDTVs. Also HDMI has more bandwidth than component which also improves the image quality.

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35. Posted:

SanderEvers wrote:

The WiiU does NOT upscale Wii games. Which is quite imposible, because modern day computers can't emulate the Wii @ 1080p with 60fps. What the WiiU does, however, is upscale the video output of the console. Which means that the output is always the resolution you set it to. (1080p over HDMI) which upscales the picture of Wii games which are still rendered @ 480p.

You're right, but you're also mixing the terminology. Upscaling has never been described as increasing the rendering resolution, so by saying it doesn't upscale games but it does upscale the output, you confuse people, because to upscale in both cases is the same thing.

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SanderEvers wrote:

The WiiU does NOT upscale Wii games. Which is quite imposible, because modern day computers can't emulate the Wii @ 1080p with 60fps. What the WiiU does, however, is upscale the video output of the console. Which means that the output is always the resolution you set it to. (1080p over HDMI) which upscales the picture of Wii games which are still rendered @ 480p.

All 1080p TVs are natively 1920x1080 pixels. No matter what input you'll give it. So your TV will automatically upscale the picture. But on cheaper TVs this will make the image look worse. The Wii U does the same thing by itself and does a better job at it than most cheap HDTVs. Also HDMI has more bandwidth than component which also improves the image quality.

Modern day computers can do that...
but from what I've heard is that only NTSC games are being "rendered in a higher resolution" whereas PAL games are just brougt to highest Wii resolution possible and then the TV takes over upscaling the image.

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Mizore

37. Posted:

I have the urge to try this myself...but...I don't wanna transfer all my stuff to the Wii U...or start over again in any of my games. Bleh...lol.
If only the Wii U could play GCN games. :p

Wait, would it allow me to move savefiles such as Fortune Street and Skyward Sword over to the Wii U without dealing with the transfer?

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38. Posted:

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Wait, would it allow me to move savefiles such as Fortune Street and Skyward Sword over to the Wii U without dealing with the transfer?

That's what I'm wondering as well. To just have an SD card in with all my saves (non-online) would the Wii U pick it up in the Wii-mode?

I really want to try out Super Mario Galaxy now. :O

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Yeah same here...except...I keep getting distracted by other games...wtf? lol

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40. Posted:

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I haven't played any wii titles on my wii yet, but I did notice it when on the wii shop channel

You've never played any wii titles on your wii?

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