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You_Silly_Human

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When should I expect a price cut for the Wii U? Will the Wii U gamepad ever be able to be its own handheld or play ds - 3ds games? lol

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Xiao_Pai

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Nintendo says no price cut anytime soon....and the GamePad is not a handheld console.

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It's weird they don't price cut considering the sales... I think the price is fair though i'm just broke after all my recent purchases. and this ZombiU looks amazing! I forgot Nintendo made a non pure motion console recently...

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If you are living in UK, there is a price cut: 149 GBP Wii U basic, 199 GBP Deluxe @ASDA direct.

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It's not the price that's causing the low sales, it's the software. But let's not go into that, there's a whole other thread about that.

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Guitardude7

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No, don't expect a price cut, it's not going to happen. And please inform yourself better on the console if you are thinking of buying it. it's not a handheld console, it cannot play 3DS games at all.

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You_Silly_Human

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1 This is the place to inform yourself I thought, otherwise the forums would get no traffic and this site shut down. Also 2, can you at least link me the other thread about the software issues you speak of with the WiiU? Wouldn't a lower cost increase install base and that would help out hardware issue or not??

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Guitardude7

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Ok sorry for coming off as rude. I don't have any thread links, but basically, the Wii U just has a shortage of "Killer App" titles. I mean you have New Super Mario Bros U, Lego City Undercover, Nintendo Land and Pikmin 3 on the way but theres not really a game on the console that makes you want to buy a Wii U unless you're an avid Nintendo fan like me who only buys Nintendos consoles. Killer apps like Smash bros, Super Mario 3D world and Bayonetta 2 are on the horizon but are not out yet. Just be patient, they'll be here soon enough.

Nintendo refuses to cut the price of the Wii U because they are already selling it at a loss, meaning, they're selling it for less than they should be selling it for. This is because if they sold it for what it SHOULD be it would be selling at around 4-500 bucks which would not be that great of a value. Nintendo SHOULD be getting profits off of the software being sold. They initially intended to have 23 launch games available when the system released but due to various delays wanting to touch up these games and not rush them, it hasn't gone quite according to plan as Nintendo was hoping. Anyway, if Nintendo were to cut the price of their new console, the software sales wouldnt be able to makeup the hardware sales they'd be losing and they would just lose money. So don't expect a price cut anytime soon. It's just not going to happen.

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Guitardude7 wrote:

Ok sorry for coming off as rude. I don't have any thread links, but basically, the Wii U just has a shortage of "Killer App" titles. I mean you have New Super Mario Bros U, Lego City Undercover, Nintendo Land and Pikmin 3 on the way but theres not really a game on the console that makes you want to buy a Wii U unless you're an avid Nintendo fan like me who only buys Nintendos consoles. Killer apps like Smash bros, Super Mario 3D world and Bayonetta 2 are on the horizon but are not out yet. Just be patient, they'll be here soon enough.

Nintendo refuses to cut the price of the Wii U because they are already selling it at a loss, meaning, they're selling it for less than they should be selling it for. This is because if they sold it for what it SHOULD be it would be selling at around 4-500 bucks which would not be that great of a value. Nintendo SHOULD be getting profits off of the software being sold. They initially intended to have 23 launch games available when the system released but due to various delays wanting to touch up these games and not rush them, it hasn't gone quite according to plan as Nintendo was hoping. Anyway, if Nintendo were to cut the price of their new console, the software sales wouldnt be able to makeup the hardware sales they'd be losing and they would just lose money. So don't expect a price cut anytime soon. It's just not going to happen.

Your an Insider of some kind. I remember when Nintendo wouldn't cut the price of the 3DS. Nintendo may not want to cut the price but in the face of a $399 PS4 they have no other choice but price cutting as they're two close once you compare them. I work at a retail store and unless i'm dealing with a customer who's buying for a younger aged child I can't recommend the Wii U over the PS4.

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The gamepad is not capable of being a standalone handheld ever, it simply doesn't have the technical capabilities to run on its own. Don't expect that in this gaming generation.

As for a price cut... Well, it's highly unlikely. Most game consoles are sold at a loss, companies rely on software to make a profit. Still, after the 3DS had a rough start, a price cut for the Wii U would practically be admitting defeat. It won't fix the problem of having such a small library and no killer apps. All it will do is send off a signal that the company is desperate as well as create an expectation that Nintendo consoles and handhelds will see price drops in the first year. It may increase sales a small amount, but not enough to warrant the price drop. Right now the system just needs games. I'm not saying a price drop can't happen this year but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd say holidays 2014 we might see one.

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Sony_70 wrote:

Guitardude7 wrote:

Ok sorry for coming off as rude. I don't have any thread links, but basically, the Wii U just has a shortage of "Killer App" titles. I mean you have New Super Mario Bros U, Lego City Undercover, Nintendo Land and Pikmin 3 on the way but theres not really a game on the console that makes you want to buy a Wii U unless you're an avid Nintendo fan like me who only buys Nintendos consoles. Killer apps like Smash bros, Super Mario 3D world and Bayonetta 2 are on the horizon but are not out yet. Just be patient, they'll be here soon enough.

Nintendo refuses to cut the price of the Wii U because they are already selling it at a loss, meaning, they're selling it for less than they should be selling it for. This is because if they sold it for what it SHOULD be it would be selling at around 4-500 bucks which would not be that great of a value. Nintendo SHOULD be getting profits off of the software being sold. They initially intended to have 23 launch games available when the system released but due to various delays wanting to touch up these games and not rush them, it hasn't gone quite according to plan as Nintendo was hoping. Anyway, if Nintendo were to cut the price of their new console, the software sales wouldnt be able to makeup the hardware sales they'd be losing and they would just lose money. So don't expect a price cut anytime soon. It's just not going to happen.

Your an Insider of some kind. I remember when Nintendo wouldn't cut the price of the 3DS. Nintendo may not want to cut the price but in the face of a $399 PS4 they have no other choice but price cutting as they're two close once you compare them. I work at a retail store and unless i'm dealing with a customer who's buying for a younger aged child I can't recommend the Wii U over the PS4.

No I'm not an insider. Thing is is that Nintendo wasn't selling the 3DS at a loss, in fact, they kind got a little greedy and over priced it. Nintendo CAN'T do that with the Wii U since they're selling it at a loss. And a price cut wouldn't help anyway because they still have a lack of games on the console. They need games not a price cut, And to be honest, $350 is NOT expensive at all and I can think of plenty reasons to recommend it over the PS4.

1. The GamePad is a whole new way to play and supports Off TV Play which you can't do with the PS4.

2. Miiverse is a very addicting and very well built social network that isn't offered on other consoles

3. The games that utlize the Wii U Gamepad utilize it well.

4. Mature games are available on the console. Ninja Gaiden, Cod Black Ops 2, Darksiders 2, Assassins Creed 3, Batman Arkham City etc. Bayonetta 2 which is a Nintendo Exclusive is on the way as well.

5. ( a Given) You can only find Mario, Zelda and other Nintendos IPs on a Nintendo console.

I should also add that Mature games are not needed to appeal to mature gamers. I'm a 19 year old kid in college and I still enjoy Mario, Kirby, Pikmin and many other games of that cartoonish nature. Don't sell consoles based on "mature" games. Sell them based on how fun they are. and the Wii U is a LOT of fun.

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shingi_70

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Would it be admitting defeat or trying to save the system. People felt the price was too much upon launch for what you were getting but now that we know most of the power and feature set of the next gen console it makes the $350 a harder pill to swallow especially when you throw in the extra $60-100 for an actual HDD.

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Xiao_Pai

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Guitardude beat me to it, but yeah...only reason 3DS got a price drop is because it was considered overpriced. The Wii u is not, there is no reason to give it a price cut...only reason it isn't selling well is because Nintendo's AAA games aren't out yet.

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1.Technically you can do off TV Play if you own a Vita.Not out the box but I haven't seen the gernal public fawn over the gamepad in the same way they did with the Wiimote. I'm not sure people care about a tablet controller sadly.

2.Miiverse is legit, but both PSN and Xbox Live will have there own social systems as well as tieing in directly to Twitter and Facebook.

3.That still doesn't dispute the fact that the public doesn't really care for the Gamepad, since a few sees it at what keeps the WIi U's price high.

4.All three systems has mature games.. The thing you want is support something the Wii U isn't getting compared to the other two systems. Baynoetta 2 is awesome but the series isn't a big system seller or anything. It is however a indicative of the moves nintendo has to make to get rid of an unpopular perception.

5. That's good but the biggest of the those IP and a compilation featuring those IP's haven;t help the Wii U yet. (admittedly that's more so on NOA's poor marketing than anything else.

No one ever said that rated M games are only what's needed to appeal to older gamers. I'm 21 and think the WIi U has a pretty decent lin up. My problem is that Nintendo's lin up while good has become super homogenized and is actual the elast diverse of the big three's line ups this year.

Microsoft Studios
Xbox 360
Gears of War Judgement
Fable Anniversary
Zoo Tycoon
Project Spark
Ascend Hand of Kul
Battleblock Theather
Charlie Murder
Crash Course 2
Lococycle
Max and the cursed brotherhood
Motocross madness
State of Decay
Super Time Force
World series Poker: Full House Pro

Xbox One
Forza motorsport 5
Ryse son of rome
Kinect Sports rivals
dead rising 3
Lococycle
Zoo Tycoon
Killer Instinct
D4 Episode 1

Sony World wide studios

Playstation 3
Diggs Nightcrawler
Dust 514
God of War: ascension
MLB the Show 13
Sly Cooper: Thieves in time
Beyond Two Soul
Gran Turismo 6
Invizimals the lost kingdom
Puppeteer
Until Dawn
Rain
Ratchet and Clank: Into the nexus

Playstation 4
Knack
Killzone shadowfall
Drive club
Planetside 2 (still a bit iffy)
DC Universe Online (iffy as well)

Playstation Vita
MLB the Show 13
Soul Sacrifice
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Invizimals the alliance
Killzone Mercenary
Tearaway

(In hindsight some of that PS3 stuff should have been pushed to PS4,

Nintendo

Wii U
Lego City Undercover
Game and Wario
Super Lugi U (does this count as a seprate game?)
Pikmin 3
The Wonderful 101
The Legend of Zelda: WInd Waker HD
Wii U party
Wii Fit U
Mario and Sonic at the 2014 Olympics
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D World

3DS
Fire Emblem Awakening
Brain Age
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity
Lego cit undercover; the chase begins
Donkey Kong Country Returns
ANimal Crossing new leaf
Pokemon X and Y
Mario and Luigi dream team
The Legend of Zelda a link between two worlds
Mario Party
Tokyo Crash mobs
Harmoknight
Kersploosh
Mario and donkey kong minis on the move
Dillions rolling western: The last ranger

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Guitardude7

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1. Yea Off TV play for an extra 250 bucks.

2. The other two consoles may have their own social networks as well but that doesn't make Miiverse any less a selling point. It's unique from the other two.

3. This is mainly due to Nintendos lack of advertising. They had brilliant ads for the Wii, not so much for the Wii U and 3DS. I blame the marketing team for this one, because the GamePad IS a brilliant innovation, but Nintendo just seems to have a tough time explaining how it is.

4. I was just stating that as a start. The Wii U WILL get more mature exclusive titles like that in the future, since Iwata has previously stated that there are Third Party games that have yet to be announced for Wii U.

5. This is because the only two First party games out at the moment are New Super Mario Bros U and Nintendo Land. Pikmin 3 is coming out very soon as well. But thats only 3 games, which is not enough to move units. Once the likes of Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Windwaker HD, Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros 4 hit, expect that point to be a lot stronger.

And while PS3 and 360s lineup completely trumps the Wii Us thats because these are consoles that have been out for 7-8 years now. Of course there are going to be more titles coming out for these systems. PS4 and Xbones lineup is about as big as the Wii U's. Also, keep in mind that Iwata said more unannounced titles are coming this year, so that list is going to expand.

And yes, New super Luigi U DOES count as a separate game because every level has been redesigned and is MUCH harder. Plus Luigis Physics make the game feel different as well.

Overall, I think the Wii U has great chances going against the PS4 and Xbone this year, especially with the current lineup thats on the way.

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You_Silly_Human

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Great information in this thread, and thanks to guitardude7 for clearing all that up originally. I find the Wii U to be interesting, and you are probably right about that marketing because I never saw anything about it until recently i started actually looking into it myself. However no ad brought me here I just got lucky. I always loved nintendo games, won't be a problem paying current prices especially since amazon is selling them at a pretty good price, its just with all these power consoles It may be difficult for me to justify the purchase until some more of those exclusives you mentioned start being released... I have a feeling if I get my way my home will be packed with a lot of current / next gen consoles. :)

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The Wii U isn't even being sold at a loss. They are selling it for face value.
I heard they make around $5(give or take a few cents) profit on the thing, and that's why Deluxe Digital Promotion exists, so it knocks it down to face value by buying digitally.
The Wii U will be fine. I'm more interested in Nintendo exclusive than PS exclusives, so that's a reason why I buy Nintendo straight up, evetytime.
I would choose 3D World, Mario Kart 8, and Gears or War or a 3rd party game instead of Second Son, Drive Club, or Uncharted, anyday.

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Something that makes the Wii U cheaper in the long run is the fact that most Wii controllers and peripherals work for Wii U. If I get a PS4 I would need to buy a second controller to play with friends, while I have been able to play my Wii U with friends without having to shell out for more controllers. The black Wii U also has a game bundled and the Deluxe Digital Promotion, which gives you credit for eShop purchases you make.

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They are going 270 - 300 for the regular white ones at the moment, I would consider this more then a fair price. I wouldn't however ever only own a Wii U, and that is known to me right off the bat. I however don't know if I would be saying that if they had a regular controller, but I see how having this touch screen controller makes the console unique.. I'm just not one for a screen or touch pad in a controller for anything serious, maybe more of a gimmick for me.

Even if all the controls can use the buttons / sticks to function I don't really care for supporting touch screen ideals, It still would be trading a lot of ergonomics for a feature I don't really care about.

^ Not hating on the controller I actually find it to be pretty neat especially when I see how games like ZombiU use it, This is just sort of the thought processes going on in my head as to justifying the cost to the system and comparing it to the rest. Honestly the controller holds me back more then the 2gb of Ram, Or at least gives me a reason to hope for a price cut.

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When considering the 2gb RAM vs. 8gb RAM, it's probable the Wii U is processing less data than PS4 and Xbox One, anyway.
i.e. An HD file of 3-5GB vs an SD file of 1-2GB.
The Xbox One and PS4 have already been confirmed to be 4K capable. That requires more memory to work.
So an HD file could very well be 5 GB of data in comparison to a similar 4K file that adds say, 3GB more of data.
The Wii U can technically run 1-3 programs off of 1GB of RAM in the background, then more based off of the other 1GB of RAM for games to either interact with those OS features, or in-game RAM uses.

In otherwords, software on the Wii U may not require as much RAM as an Xbox One or PS4, so it makes sense that it has less RAM than the competitors.

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