Topic: Wii U is safe from the NX!? Seems to be true

Well, anyway, I don't see how the NX's OS being Android-like at all indicates whether it's a handheld, console, or something between the two. Unless there's something about Android that makes it terrible for running high resolution console games. And even then, Nintendo will probably change it to work for its purposes.

Well perhaps because the main advantage to running Android would be access to already existing software. Software which has largely been built for the sort of device that Android has been running on. Looking at some of the better Android games that have controller support I see:

• Valiant Hearts
• GTA (Chinatown Wars, III, Vice City, San Andreas)
• Half Life 2
• Portal
• Trine 2

Would anyone particularly care if they could play those games on a new home console? Probably not. Is anyone going to jump to develop Android games just for one device that's gambling on high end games for the thing? Probably not. Would I buy those games again if they could run on a portable system? Probably yes. If you were a dev would you consider putting your games on Android if it meant your games could also run on a Nintendo portable? More likely.

It's nowhere near confirmed and this whole Android thing itself is just a rumour. But if it is true? It would suggest that the thing is more likely to be a portable console. Because that existing library of content and the devices that already run Android? They create a far friendlier environment for a portable to enter into.

Just curious as this just dawned on me. How many actually want a new next gen console? Whos to say that even if the NX is not a traditional followup to the wii u, that nintendo releases a true next gen console down the road when the xboxone and ps4 are near the end of their lifespan. I don't feel its a smart decision to release a new next gen console this soon. Wii u's already sold 11 million units, not that far behind the xboxone. IMO they should just ride it out with the wii u and learn from their "mistakes" and release a console that would compete with the ps5 not the ps4. I'd prefer Nintendo to continue making games for the wii u for the next couple years as I have one and have no interests in shelling out the money to buy a new one anytime soon.

See the thing is this is a Nintendo fan site. I'm not going to lie, I would probably end up with it if it was made by Nintendo. Maybe not on day 1 but certainly by the time it had something like Mario, Zelda or Smash. But I'm certainly not desperate for them to release a new home console. I could easily see current-gen combo of PC and Wii U lasting me well into 2018.

Not the same for the portable space. I'm kinda at the point where I'm looking at my "upgrade" options but there really aren't any. I mean the Vita is nice but I don't think it'll have that much support going forward. A bit of a tough ask for a $250AU device. Then there's the Shield which is also interesting but again, software support while interesting is fairly limited. Plus it technically isn't available here so it ends up costing MORE than the Vita. Which would be ok I guess if the killer app (game streaming) would work for me. I have an AMD GPU!

So even though Nintendo pretty much own the "dedicated gaming portable" space, I'm still hoping they come out with something. Because I want a new portable console.

I'm one of those people that goes new nintendo console = insta buy. Portables = maybe buy, but the only reason I don't have a new 3ds is the lateness in its lifespan - 3ds is probably over within 2 years... the real next gaming machine nintendo will launch will probably be insta buy too.

I'm happier with my Wii U than any console I've owned. It's the dominant form of entertainment in my house and I feel like it's only just coming into its own so I'm nowhere near interested in an update. The Wii had a lot of shortcomings so upgrading to the Wii U was an easy decision as I wasn't losing anything. The Wii U is a much more capable machine and the experience is much better: flexibility in display and control options and the range of software available.

Unless the successor to the Wii U continues to offer some kind of backwards-compatibility then I'm not guaranteed to continue on the journey with Nintendo as I only joined them with the Wii. I respect what they do, but I'm not inclined to collect consoles and it will take more than Mario Kart in 1080p or even 4K to get me to put another machine under the TV.

Regarding the possibility that an Android-based system could replace the Wii U, I can only look to the Ouya and say "no, that's not going to happen." There is no way that Nintendo is going to replace their proprietary home console with a machine that runs software that is made to run on mobile devices, even if they trick out the OS front-end in some way. I suspect the NX is another "third stream" experiment; if new and old fans flock to it and the 3DS software and hardware sales fall off a cliff then it could well replace it. It could just as easily mark the end of the dual screen era for Nintendo, but it all depends on who wants to continue with them.

To me it sounds like the NX is simply a phone running Android, by Nintendo. Like the Amazon phone experiment.

With today's news I guess we're back to speculation again!

3DS sales are slowing fast, I think the NX, if not an outright replacement, might be a '3rd pillar' type product that Nintendo can ease into a 'successor' role to the 3DS if it proves successful. Assuming the launch it the same year the reveal it (ala Nintendo DS back in 2004) the 3DS would be over 5 years old by 2016. And I'd expect a reveal at or before E3 2016 for NX with a November 2016 launch in NA/Japan at least, if not globally, depending on manufacturing.

The NX-Console would likely hit a year later in 2017. That would give Wii U just about 5 years.

This post stopped meaning anything when you failed to backup your claim.

Global 3DS sales by year
2011: 13.2mill
2012: 14.1mill
2013: 14.4mill
2014: 9.7mill <- the very definition of "slowing sales", the New 3DS exists for a reason

vs Wii U global sales:
2012: 2.2mill
2013: 3.1mill
2014: 3.7mill

Yeah they've struggled to maintain that 3DS momentum with a lack of big games. I have a suspicion the Wii U will sell less in 2015 too. Unless they just go bananas in the second half of the year.

Personally I'd wouldn't be surprised if 2015 for the 3DS was down on that number yet again. The New 3DS has given them a bit of extra momentum but not a lot, certainty not enough to bring them back to 2013's numbers. When you see the software lineup you can understand why.

But with the Wii U? Well last year was their "big year" in terms of releases on paper. Kart and Smash should have been the games to carry them and they did bump sales up a tad. But this year? It's a tough call. Between Splatoon, Star Fox and Xenoblade? Maybe something else at E3? The Wii U is a "gamers" console now, I wouldn't be surprised if it holds steady at least. It may even get a small bump.

It sounds good when you say it like that. It sounds worse if you say that the Wii sold about 10 million to gamers and the other 90 million were dirty casuals and clueless grandmas.

Guys, system sales don't matter. There's 40 million 3DS' out there now. That system could be a thriving ecosystem (ugh) until the end of time if people keep making and buying games. How about we base whether something's going away soon on software sales? That's the entire reason PS3 / 360 are still relevant.

That's how expensive, ambitious mass media works. Developers can pour their heart and soul into something for years of their lives and most of the people who buy it will only play it for an hour. Yet, the developers need that money to sustain their businesses. Personally, I consider it a culture tax for those people. It's their own fault they wasted their purchase, anyway.

That's either very profound. Or very silly,

Global 3DS software sales by year
2011: 27mill
2012: 38mill
2013: 57mill
2014: 56mill
Jan - April 2014: 9mill
Jan - April 2015: 9mill

vs Wii U global software sales:
2012: 4.5mill
2013: 15mill
2014: 23mill
Jan - April 2014: 3mill
Jan - April 2015: 4mill

3DS: Has peaked with nothing much on the horizon
Wii U: Steady and on a slow trend up

Well, you heard it here guys. 56 million sold last year, but it's all over, pack it up.

Lol, where is your logic outside of 'Leik Wii U, 3DS BAD, 3DS SMASH'? The data you provided, your chance to backup your case, doesn't support your randomly pessimistic opinion. Your numbers are consistent since 2013. I don't even have to cite my own data to poke gaping holes in your argument. I'm not too fond of the resolution either, but that doesn't mean things don't sell; it never has.

Fire Emblem, Yo Kai Watch, multiple Pokemon games, to be sure, Bravely Default, multiple Monster Hunter games, Ace Attorney, etc are all slated to release this and in the coming years. I don't understand your calculus her. There is no clear peak nor a barren horizon. Are you disappointed by the announced games since 2013 / 2014? So am I, to a degree, but that doesn't mean the 3DS is somehow shutting down, like a light switch. Plenty of the currently announced games will do great, financially and critically.

And you really do need to provide a source for this stuff, otherwise no one knows you didn't just type it up in Word.

I never said it was doing poorly and I'm not being pessimistic. I was simply saying that it has hit it's peak and that in a couple of years it'll be at a natural end. In the same way that the DS slowed down and then was replaced.

Global DS software sales by year:
2005: 26mill
2006: 75mill
2007: 109mill
2008: 155mill
2009: 143mill
2010: 121mill (3DS announcement)
2011: 81mill (3DS launch)

We are currently in the "2009/2010" phase of the 3DS. The ride can't last forever, eventually it'll have to be replaced. Same with the Wii U... I just don't think the Wii U is on the way out right now. Software sales haven't peaked, hardware sales haven't peaked and new releases haven't slowed. The Wii U will be replaced and likely within the next three years or so but I'm putting my money on the 3DS being replaced first. That's all I'm saying here.

And the DS got Pokemon Black/White, Mario & Luigi, Spirit Tracks, Dragon Quest IX and Scribblenauts in it's last few years. There were games but there were far less than there were at it's peak. The 3DS is in the same space right now. I'd argue that this suggests that development teams are slowly moving over to new hardware.

Again, a 1 million annual software sales drop off, assuming your uncredited statistics are right, does not indicate a peak, nor anything, really. Whereas the DS' '09 sales drop off was 12 million; a clear trend. Obviously the system will eventually die, but that's long term, for all we know the 3DS could have it's record annual software sales in the coming years.

And you have to watch your tone. I don't say that in a scolding sense, but rather in a rhetorical one. "Has peaked with nothing much on the horizon." is an entirely pessimistic statement and is quite dismissive. And to be honest, it applies more accurately to the Wii U. The 3DS has always had the third party AA development that the Wii U never garnered and the U obviously peaked in the year that had Mario Kart and Smash. It'll likely diminish with the remaining first party titles sprinkling this year and the next, plus Star Fox and, perhaps, a couple more unannounced projects.