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NEStalgia

@Darknyht @skywake Ultimately a big content problem for the "second screen" on Switch was that they were simultaneously pushing the 3DS and the WiiU based around the same overall "gimmick" of dual screen gaming. Ultimately they ran into a situation where most WiiU owners were also 3DS owners, while the inverse was not true, and handheld had to be their focus as it's was their most diversified product line without stronger competition elsewhere. When allocating games that used a second screen, without fail, all of them were allocated to 3DS, leaving WiiU with scraps, games not meant for dual screen gaming, and "WiiU edition" of 3DS games like Smash and MH3U, which was always the low selling version. In a sense the business model turned WiiU into "3DS X Pro", but they didn't have a business case to port the same games to both platforms except for a few.

I think WiiU would have been much, much, much stronger if 3DS did not exist, however, it would not have sold nearly as well as 3DS regardless.

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Darknyht

@NEStalgia @skywake I agree, it never made sense that games on Wii U regularly were ported, but the reverse almost never happened. Especially when the Wii U was so frequently left with no retail releases for months at a time.

It was almost like they were leaning exclusively on small team indie shops to keep the console afloat after a certain point. While there were some fun games born out of that choice, it probably hurt the console more than it helped.

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@skywake I really like and completely agree with your assessment of people using the "I have a right to my opinion" defense. It's much like people sticking to their principles, no matter what:

I've learned at quite an early age, that principles are only useful as long as they work for you, not when they hinder you or work against you, but regardless of that fact, entire droves of people, both offline and online, stubbornly stick to them anyway, simply because they seem to be adamant to defend what's "theirs". Online discussions have only added to that, and not exactly in a positive way.

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NEStalgia

@Darknyht Yeah. I've always felt the WiiU was Iwata's pet project, and it's life was tied to his. As bad as it's situation got, while he was at the helm he pushed it and made it feel like a viable platform. He was still pushing bigger projects onto it, no matter how convoluted our out of left field (Yakuza in Japan of all things...Devil's Third...) The moment Iwata took leave, all momentum on WiiU halted. I sense that nobody else believed in it, and without him they took the opportunity to abandon it and focus on the successful 3DS. The day he died, they practically deleted the platform from the website and virtually never spoke of it again. Granted, he was really the father of the Switch as well, and had already unveiled "NX" which helped rapidly kill WiiU as well, but I think the trailing years of WiiU would have been better provided for had he been in prime shape still. In hindsight we know he probably wasn't in shape to run much of anything for most of the WiiU lifecycle, and what energy he did have was being poured into Switch and Pokemon Go as a pet project, leaving the mismanagement of WiiU to others that never had a vision for it.

I don't think they were intentionally leaning on indies (as someone who pretty much ignored most indies until Switch, I wasn't even aware most of those existed, I just saw zero games on WiiU for months and mostly watched the 3DS coming soon lists.) I just think they had absolutely nothing retail, with most of those projects reserved for 3DS....and Switch.

Imagine Code Name Steam as a WiiU title? Or the Pikmin platformer for that matter. But everything was funneled to 3DS instead.

It wasn't necessarily the wrong decision, but 3DS probably killed WiiU more than PS4 and "NX" did. Nintendo had a great library those years....and nearly all of it was on 3DS.

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kkslider5552000

Yeah, even though I often preferred the Wii U's library to 3DS, for most people it's probably fairly redundant. Like, I think Mario Kart 7 is the most mediocre game in the entire series and 8 is way better. But if you just want a well made, enjoyable Mario Kart experience and the relative lack of creativity doesn't bother you, you'd probably just get 7 that came out first on the cheaper system that your friends actually own. Especially in a world where online is such a big focus, so even if you don't have friends with a 3DS, you can still play the game's multiplayer, so it isn't like couch co-op is as necessary. And Mario Kart 8 was Wii U's most successful game.

Between that and people confusing games for HD upgrades of Wii games, I'm not surprised.

In more optimistic news though, god Deus Ex is an awesome game. Human Revolution is probably one of the best games this decade, especially this version. Also, thank god a game where you can try to play the whole thing with stealth, you can manually save. My other major stealth game experiences did not have that, and the games were so much more annoying because of all the trial and error and redoing stuff over and over again. If some purist wants to waste their lives on that, that's fine, but I want to make some progress in games I like.

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Darknyht

Just out of curiosity, I purchased the first year of Nintendo Force Magazine digitally. I enjoyed the magazine and it also serves as a sort of time capsule of events. One of the biggest things I have noticed is that in that first year (which almost matches my first year of ownership) there was a lot of games announced that just quietly went into the night. While none of them were major releases, it sure did thin out the lineup.

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SuperLuigi111

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Yeah, even though I often preferred the Wii U's library to 3DS, for most people it's probably fairly redundant. Like, I think Mario Kart 7 is the most mediocre game in the entire series and 8 is way better. But if you just want a well made, enjoyable Mario Kart experience and the relative lack of creativity doesn't bother you, you'd probably just get 7 that came out first on the cheaper system that your friends actually own. Especially in a world where online is such a big focus, so even if you don't have friends with a 3DS, you can still play the game's multiplayer, so it isn't like couch co-op is as necessary. And Mario Kart 8 was Wii U's most successful game.

Between that and people confusing games for HD upgrades of Wii games, I'm not surprised.

In more optimistic news though, god Deus Ex is an awesome game. Human Revolution is probably one of the best games this decade, especially this version. Also, thank god a game where you can try to play the whole thing with stealth, you can manually save. My other major stealth game experiences did not have that, and the games were so much more annoying because of all the trial and error and redoing stuff over and over again. If some purist wants to waste their lives on that, that's fine, but I want to make some progress in games I like.

I've been on the fence about that game, might finally have to get it. When I get time.

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SuperLuigi111

I've been really bumming about how it's virtually impossible to get a larger Wii U Gamepad battery in the US. The Gamepad lasts for like three hours it's atrocious, and since you have to have it on even when using the pro controller, it gets to be irritating...

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PCkid

@SuperLuigi111

Do you know that you can plug and charge your GP with the AC adapter cable during your playtime ?

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@PCkid Yeah, but I don't like to. The cable is a hassle, and keeping anything plugged in for too long is not good for the battery.

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I found out a way to shut the gamepad off while using the Pro Controller. If anyone's interested in how, let me know. It's been great not having to worry about it anymore. Really starting to love my Wii U for what it is.

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@SuperLuigi111 me. How

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SuperLuigi111

@1UP_MARIO Turn the Wii U on using a non-gamepad controller, then immediately as the light comes on on the gamepad, hold down the power button to shut it off. The gamepad will stay off but the console will boot up as normal, as if the gamepad ran out of batteries or wasn't present.

So far, since doing this, the Gamepad doesn't try to turn on on subsequent boot-ups, so this is nice. Enjoy

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@SuperLuigi111 I’ll try that if I get a chance. Thanks

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I'm thinking of getting a Wii U to play BotW. I also have other Wii games which I can play on it, but does the Wii U play Gamecube games? I have some of those, too.

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gcunit

@desktop You can, but you'll need to hack your Wii U first, and it can only play them from hard disk, not from the mini CD Roms the Gamecube used, but you can rip game images from your Gamecube discs on a PC.

Follow the Wii U guide here - https://hacks.guide

You can even inject your Wii & Gamecube games onto the Home screen of your Wii U and launch them as faux Virtual Console games.

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