Well to the average person probably not, but the VC was my favorite thing about the Wii. Seriously though, had they said before launch something like "all current VC games will be available for download and playable on the Gamepad. If you already purchased the game on the Wii VC, you can redownload for free with all new features" I would have been in line to pick up a Wii U at launch. Even if I had to wait a while for the VC to show up.

In another thread the question was raised regarding respect for other's opinions.

This is an example of positive opinion worth respecting as are those not so positive, like ToxorAxiom's (sorry mate, I can't figure out how to multiquote on the android tablet else yours would be here too) because they are based, albeit subjectively, on the personal experience of the individual snd backed up with the facts and the feelings of the individual.

Other members I've criticised for lack of substantive support for their negative sweeping generalisations would do well to take note of these examples.

These opinions are extremely helpful because there's no right or wrong, there's only expressions of personalities which may assist similar minded personalities in their decision-making process.
After all, you should leave the pissing contests to the troll-kiddies and Nippon-phobes, which the 360 often gets maligned for.

I quoted rallydefault because he articulated my leanings however this doesn't invalidate Toxor's because he succinctly described his personal gaming approach (as did the OP) and it's quite easy to understand his particular reasoning.

Articulate your feelings with evidence and agree to disagree

lol I'm kind of on the same page as you man. I'm actually getting quite bored with most modern videogames...outside the majority
of Nintendo title or the rare capcom hit. When it comes to most of this modern age shinanigans, I'm much more intersted in motion control based gameplay > (Metroid Prim3 3, Zack & Wiki, Elebits, Silent Hill:SS, RE4: Wii Edition, WLSI ect) Something new, innovative and immsersive instead of the same ol' crap with a new lick of HD paint. It's usually either Retro (NES,SNES) or modern(Wii+Motion controls) for me. I'm currently playing Rayman Origins on the Wii and even IT isn't doing much for me in the fun factor department. Wario Land Shake it and Klonoa it tis' not....imo. ;p

It's going to take Stereoscopic 3D on the big screen, leading up to virtual reality with Head tracking(instead of staring at a TV screen for many genres.)
to get me jumping out of my seat again. As is, the Wii U seems like a ho um-lack luster upgrade from an innovation standpoint in comparison to the big jump in terms of controls/innovation that the Wii was over the GCN. To me, that Wii U is basically a super Wii.

If rumors are true, the Sony Orbis is going to anihilate the Wii U in terms of controls/innovation, aside from the obvious graphical upgrade. Nintendo will have it's brilliant exclusives which will make any NintenNut like myself happy. But this time out not only will they be losing in horse power but in controls/innovation as well. I doubt i'll turn to the darkside and get an Orbis, but if the innovation is there i may pick it up as a secondary console. say it aint so!

For goodness sakes RBJ, the Wii U been out for 1 month and your complaining already, if you don't like BigN's new product just don't play it, simple as that, go to your ps3 & xbox. There's at least 20 games so far for Wii U and 4 eShop games and you still careless. Give it time man, your like a kid "no, this is yucky so i not playing with it, i'll show that toy" Every system has pros & cons, but give it time.

I had a ps1 and a ps3, hated them, i dont care for microsoft either but hey to each there own.

Every time I read a comment on this site that ends with something similar to this, I die a little on the inside.

As if we needed to know any of that.

I had a PSOne and PS2 and loved them both

I have only one thing to say RBJ: your loss.

I also wanna add that I do understand how young this console is-- almost six weeks now, which is too soon to judge a software lineup, and with many a patch that will be required in future to help load times, alleviate system crashes and/or freezing, work out bugs, etc. And I also admit that this is the first time in my life where I full-out chanced a console on launch. (I didn't buy a Wii until it had SMG and RE4 within a year, two of my all-time favorite games that I say are masterpieces of their respective genres.)

My feeling is more aimed toward the general laziness of software development, with the big N being a surprising offender with nostalgic retreads like the NSMB series. Coming from a long-time Nintendo supporter, I'm as disappointed in their software development as I am impressed with their hardware development in 2012. To illustrate, I've typed all this out on the GamePad. The internet browser on this thing is genuinely kick-ass! And I could start a whole new post on how impressive the community-based Miiverse is, which, I believe, is gonna give some serious competition to Sony and Microsoft in the coming years. But I'd sooner take Galaxy 3 than yet another "New" SMB. Reason being that the child-like sense of awe and wonder I've had in those classic Mario games, like SMB3 and SMW, is there in the Galaxy series (especially the sequel-- go figure). Yet in the New series it has always been lacking at best (NSMBW), or turns to bitterness at worst (NSMB2). And that disillusioned me this year, even more so than the still-felt "Doritosgate" journalism scandal.

play some Kid Icarus:Uprising to feel better about creativity (or wait for Wonderful 101, I dunno)

Kid Icarus: Uprising is about as creative as a hole in the head.

...Yeah mine is kinda just...sitting there too...they keep delaying the games I'm looking forward too...Seriously, Rayman Legends was SUPPOSED to be out on December 8th, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! >_>
Wonderful 101 we have heard nothing about since the second trailer, Pikmin 3 I'm fine with the small delay, its Miyamoto, lol.
And Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, well...been waiting for over a year for this.

How dare you take a jab at my angelic & precious Pit.
You know what? Solid Snake aint' so Solid. Word. Thee'end. Durp!

@castlezelda
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@SonyFACE

Your both getting me wrong here, I will say once again that I'm a lifelong Nintendo fan, owned every Nintendo console since the first! (NES), so I'm not in any way knocking the Wii U itself, I really like the actual console, the problem or should I say disappointment I have is simply that I would have liked to have seen one or two big Nintendo games at launch, as I have also said I'm sure these will come along in good time, but for me personally at this time other than the basic/standard NSMBU there's not a lot pulling back to the Wii U at the moment, Nintendo Land is ok but not something I will want to play that much, only now and again.

I'm sure once better games do finally come along then I'll be back on my Wii U all the time, so just for the record I do not in any way regret my purchase of the Wii U, I just wish there were one or two more games out at launch to get me a bit more excited, sadly this is not the case for me.

@ Anyone?
Some of you have mentioned Trine 2, I have looked at this game but I'm not sure about it, can any of you tell me exactly what type of game it is, does it compare to any other game etc.? what are the pro's & con's of Trine 2? Thank You!

I've played the Trine 2 demo on the PS3, and to be honest it just didn't seem that fun. Sure the visuals are beautiful and enchanting, but the floaty physics and uninspired gameplay make it seem like the core gameplay was a complete after thought. Regardless It will be an insta' download as soon as i open my wii U along with Little Inferno and Toki Tori 2. I've only played the demo so my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. plus I've heard the Game pad screen elements are put to good use.

You broke my heart!

It's been out for a little over a month... The Wii's been around for years. Of course there's more to do on the Wii now. The Wii U will be able to pull forward because of the games that will come out. It's not the only system that's been pretty much sold on future potential. The PS3 wasn't doing so hot at the beginning of it's lifetime. Few games and a $600 price tag? But now look at it.

Just give it time. If in a couple years once the PS4 and 720 come out and have their libraries, you can say it may not do as well if it can't keep up and I'll be behind you, but for now, let the system pick up steam...

OP: I just beat Trine 2's main storyline, and now I'm into the expansion material.

Overall, I liked it a lot. The graphics are beautiful, but graphics hardly make a game for me. The physics, as someone said, are indeed "floaty," but it's not meant to be an action platformer- more of a puzzle game with small bits of swinging your sword from time to time, so the physics didn't bother me. At certain points, the game did drag for me as I'm not the most die-hard puzzle fan. I love games like Portal, but I have to take breaks every now and then and switch to something with a bit more action. Some rooms will provide a very real challenge, while others are just "move along" bits. There was more than one time that I used my characters' skills (especially the wizard) in very creative ways to beat a puzzle, and felt extremely proud.

Bottom line- do NOT get Trine 2 if you want some sort of side-scrolling dungeon crawl or any sort of action game. It's not that. Definitely do get Trine 2 if you love puzzle games.

As a single-player game I wouldn't have bothered with Trine 2 because of the heavy platforming emphasis, however my daughter really enjoys it and I have to say the multiplayer aspect is fun, though you'd better have some patience! They're adding voice support for online multiplayer (I cannot see how you'd be able to play online otherwise given communication is a must to negotiate some of the areas) so that should make that more palatable. It is a beautiful game I will admit.

I was looking forward to the Avengers game, but sadly it's just a tag-team fighter rather than a mission-based beat 'em up like Ultimate Alliance was, so that's a pass for me. I'm focused on download-only titles until Batman shows up for download. Warriors Orochi is definitely a buy for me and otherwise I'm awaiting Wii Fit U and Pikmin 3. Yes it seems slow-going, but that just means I'm actually giving my games time rather than scartching the surface before trying another one, so I'm okay with that.

Thanks! for the feedback on Trine 2 guys, very much appreciated, I'll give it some more thought, but must admit I was hoping it was more about action gameplay than puzzle solving.

There's action in the form of jumping and occasional fighting, but it's pretty much down to figuring out how to get to the next platform or open a door to continue on your journey from left-to-right. I cannot imagine it would be much fun as a single player game since most of the levels need two characters. I guess it could be like a Lego game in using AI for that, but I haven't tried it.