Topic: Wii U from my point of view

@DefHalan
Oh wow! I think this may be something I might give a go. It's like you know what I am looking for in these games. And this may end up on Wii U? Nice.

@GiftedGimp

When a friend showed me PS4, I had the exact same reaction. Up until a few moments ago, those thoughts you had about PS4 were thoughts I had about Wii U. Great post, by the way.

@AD3supa Thanks, its really just how I came about getting the WiiU, and became a fan of the system.

I've also added a link on the post that seems quite balanced that puts the 'low sales' of WiiU into context.

I find most people don't understand how much fun the Wii U is until they play it.

I would also add to my original post r.e Ps4, With Backward Compatibilty only via cloud, even if Rocksmith, Singstar or any of my downloaded games are put up on cloud servers, Latency (which anyone who ever used OnLive will know) will effect how well/responsive the games play.
Games like Rocksmith, where timing is everything will be usless being streamed via cloud.
Meaning the lack of true hardware based bc, gives me Personaly more reason not to get a ps4.
I also think the lack of BC on ps4 and if is the case Kinectbox will seriously effect how well/fast Kinectbox & Ps4 sell.
If Nintendo get on promoting and advertising the WiiU, that could be their chance to snag those gamers who hold on to thier 360's/Ps3's and who may be more interested in owning 2 consoles offering different gaming experiences rather than 2 consoles offering the same gaming experience.

@DefHalan We've had freinds/family round who's said things like.. 'you got a WiiU?' 'Why?' 'Ive heard its Sh..' etc....

Then I've turned the WiiU on, they have played and before going home the comments are 'Its really good' 'I like the Gamepad' 'I want one' 'How much are they?' 'Do you know what the trade price is 360?'

Some of my freinds have brought one a few days after playing our WiiU.

As I said before the Gamepad and the way it can enhance gameplay in single and multiplayer isn't obvious. If Nintendo did Nationwide 'Roadshows' in different countries guving people a chance to experience the WiiU and the Gamepad a high % of those people would buy a WiiU.
They did it for the 3DS, in the UK at least, and it worked, and hope Nintendo do it again for the WiiU on the run up to christmas, say from October time at the latest.

Among the 3 the Wii U wins hands down. The Gamepad innovation is what makes it a must have. You now can experience a true assymetrical gameplay on the Wii U. The off TV play is also a great feature. You'll get all the features out of the box & you'll get it cheap. Both the PS4 & Xbox 720 is more about the specs but the gameplay remains the same. You don't get the off TV play out of the box on the PS4. You'll have to spend more with a separate PS Vita purchase if you wanna have the off TV play which I don't think gonna sit well on casual gamers. The off TV play via Wi-Fi cannot yet be proven as effective as well as the Cloud feature which was a failure on OnLive. By the time both the other 2 next gen console arrive, the Wii U software is mature enough with most if not all that's broken before gets fixed.

The only good thing on PS4 is the share button for recording gameplay.

How do you figure that when we only know a little about the PS4 and literally nothing about the Durango unless you put stock in the rumor mill.

How do you figure that the Wii U will be more mature when the other consoles are coming this fall and arubly will have far better third party support as well as each system holders first party portfolio.

Even the Vita integration isn't really aimed at the casual consumer. Its mostly aimed at the core of gamers who already own a vita in the first place and those entrenched in the Playstation eco system. The one thing I will say i'm confused why off TV play must be put in by th developer on Wii U while the actual system does it on the PS4 meaning every game will be capable of the feature out the box.

That might be because (given latency) all the Vita can do is mirror, whereas the GamePad can allow so much more

The PS4 is not going to be price competitively. You won't get a tablet controller out of the box. Components cost estimate is too expensive for casual gamers which is still the majority. Read my post below...

http://ps4forums.com/showthread.php?70-Analyst-Calls-299-Magi...

Good point but the Vita/PS3 configuration allowed for more so I assume the PS4 would be capable as well.

Though from what I see more people seem to get bummed out over lack of off screen play compared to other gamepad functions.

I'm talking from a software perspective. Also I don't think people really care about it having a tablet controller out of the box. I'm guessing its going to be $400-$450 on the low end which is decent for the specs.

Also it depends on what you mean by casual gamers . I have a few friends who would fall into that category but they won't hesitate to pick up a PS4 at launch based on what they aw from the PlayStation meeting.

It also helps that at launch no one realistically expects to have the casual gamer out in full force which is why the PS3/360 will sell alongside the next gen cnosles for at least 1-2 more years.

The PS Vita has Bluetooth so it will work the same as any other controllers. Latency won't be a problem if you're talking about it as a controller. One main advantage with the PS Vita is the ability to play on WAN across the globe on PS4 as oppose to the Gamepad where you're limited to the physical distance on the Wii U console (but the Wii U console is small & portable too.). The PS Vita might have latency problems when playing on WAN cuz it will play it via Cloud. The thing with Cloud gaming (though it never found significant success with OnLive before) is that in terms of hardware standpoint it really doesn't need so much horsepower. The Cloud server is mainly doing the work & based on current assessments it's a viable technology in gaming.

Oh yes gamers do care about tablet controller. We're in a digital age where social networking plays a significant part of our lives. There's so much you can do on a tablet controller. With apps it's going to streamline things. The Miiverse is getting so popular for Wii U gamers. The Netflix, TVii & the eShop also looks very nice. Do you think it's going to be easy to access those things without a tablet controller? In gaming to it has a lot of potentials. The assymetrical gameplay, the off TV play feature, etc. The Wii U might not a very powerful hardware but it's innovative features is what makes it a winner.

More walls of text.

Judging by the sales of the Wii U, I'd say most people could care less about a tablet controller. I think a lot of people consider it a gimmick.

So gosh-darned true. /thread

LOL. Without the Gamepad the Wii U is nothing but a Wii on HD. It won't sell at all. It has nothing to compete. Not even with power pissing. It will be short of power & none of the innovation. It's not brand new technolgy. It's 2004 technology.