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iVirtual

DefHalan wrote:

8BitNation wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

1. I have explained why GamePad backwards compatibility isn't needed, it would be a nice option but isn't a negative for the whole console.

2. I called it the original Xbox, Xbox one before the Xbox One came out. It is pretty confusing in conversation.

3. Friend codes were never a thing on Wii U, so we can drop this as it isn't an issue.

4. The triggers are in the same spot on the Pro controller as a 360 controller. They are further in the controller on the GamePad but right where your fingers rest. In fact I have a bigger issue with the placement of Land R, ZL and ZR are fine.

6. They were trying something new with the GamePad. It will be interesting to see what they do with the next-gen console and if the Fusion idea is real. they will continue to use the same type of touch screen the GamePad and 3DS use most likely.

7. Wii games force you to use the Wii controllers, not Wii U games.

8. You were complaining about the power, the specs for Wii U are higher than 360 or PS3. Every console that comes out is different to build for, 3rd Parties need to take time to learn the console.

9. You say isn't much of a problem so we can drop that.

1. GamePad backwards compatibility isn't needed so Nintendo can make you buy Mario Bros again, come on we all know that, they ditched the Wii Shop and started over so that they can make us buy the same games over, in fact some of my Virtual console games don't work at all the Wii U.

2. Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One there you go.

4. The triggers placements are fine but they aren't analogue.

6. I don't see the point in the Wii U gamepad when they could have used the 3Ds instead and would have saved a lot more on money.

8. If so, why isn't the Wii U getting much 3rd party support, Ubisoft is done with the Wii U, Why?

You don't make much sense. Please refer to my earlier comment about doing research. I will touch on a few points here but please, before replying to what I have to say do some research.

1. All Virtual Console games work on the Wii U. You were saying the GamePad should work in Wii Mode but that isn't necessary, it would just be a nice feature.

2. Doesn't make the name less confusing in conversations. I understand how I can differentiate them in conversation, doesn't mean it doesn't get confusing at times.

4. Finally we get to the point. You wish the triggers were Analog! Ok that could be a negative but I haven't played many games that take advantage of that, other than Trials games.

6. A 3DS was more expensive than the GamePad, making the GamePad the better choice financially. There are rumors about Fusion and we will see what happens.

8. Because the x86 architecture of Xbox One and PS4 are closer to PC, something they have already been working with, than the Wii U's architecture. If they took more time to learn the Wii U they could do better with the WIi U. Why don't they, money.

1. How is the Gamepad backwards compatibility not needed especially for virtual console games, is it so that Nintendo can make you buy the same games with that feature.

6.Of course the 3Ds was more expensive to build since it's a separate system, but was there really a point in building a Gamepad as well, the Ps4 uses the PsVita and Mobile as remote play and they work just fine in fact better.

8. Last gen was similar but next gen is more about Pc Architecture, if Nintendo were to go that route, no more backwards compatibility but they will get the support from developers on something they are already good at developing games for. Also shortening development time but that's ok the Snes, N64 and Gamecube wasn't backward compatible either.

U.A

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DefHalan

1. If you already have Wii VC then you probably have a Classic Controller, if not then buy 1. They are on Amazon for about $10 bucks, so again not a big deal. You want to play Wii games (including Wii VC games) get Wii controllers.

6. They built the GamePad to deliver a particular experience. Whether they fail or not to deliver that experience isn't the point you have been trying to make.

8. I am glad the Wii U has backwards compatibility rather than forcing me to buy the same games again (such as the Last of Us and Tomb Raider) We aren't talking about "What if the Wii U did this or that" we are talking about negatives the Wii U has and it is the lack of 3rd Party. We all agree on this.

Edited on by DefHalan

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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bluemage1989

I have to admit I'm with you on the analogue triggers

bluemage1989

iVirtual

DefHalan wrote:

1. If you already have Wii VC then you probably have a Classic Controller, if not then buy 1. They are on Amazon for about $10 bucks, so again not a big deal. You want to play Wii games (including Wii VC games) get Wii controllers.

6. They built the GamePad to deliver a particular experience. Whether they fail or not to deliver that experience isn't the point you have been trying to make.

8. I am glad the Wii U has backwards compatibility rather than forcing me to buy the same games again (such as the Last of Us and Tomb Raider) We aren't talking about "What if the Wii U did this or that" we are talking about negatives the Wii U has and it is the lack of 3rd Party. We all agree on this.

1. And thats what I'm trying to say the Wii U Gamepad is a classic controller, all the controls are there, just like using a Ps4 controller on a Ps3.

6. The Wii U gamepad is a neat idea, but there would be no use for it to carry onto there next console, the 3Ds is also sort of becoming a Wii U gamepad.

8. If Nintendo were to use backwards compatibility, make it good by using your features. Or Nintendo should just move on and begin competing with Ps and Xbox like they did with Sega and Atari, and Pc architecture for next gen, was for there own good, faster development and more to push.

Edited on by iVirtual

U.A

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DefHalan

1. Yes it would be a nice feature to have, as I said before, but I don't see it as a "con" for the system.

6. Yes, which makes it not a "con" for the system.

8. No backwards compatibility would be a "con" for the system. Also there is still no guarantee that 3rd Party would have a stronger presence on Wii U if it went with the x86 architecture.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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skywake

Back to the thread concept.... IMO there's not much....

  • It would have been nice if it had an Ethernet port in the back
  • USB 3 ports with more power and a few more of them. 2x USB 2? You need to get a powered hub for the thing
  • Wii Mode doesn't use the face buttons on the GamePad
  • glossy plastic finishes on everything. Ugh.

................ but none of this is really something that gets in the way of me enjoying it. Except maybe the glossy finish on the GamePad.

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KB90

Not enough online players.

KB90

jariw

KB90 wrote:

Not enough online players.

Looking at the avatar, do you mean for MK8? FWIW, I have never had a problem with that in MK8. If I get assigned to a group with just a few players, I play one race and the group is usually almost full after that. And if that doesn't help, I exit and re-enter online and I usually get assigned to a fuller group.

jariw

SuperWiiU

SCAR392 wrote:

SuperWiiU wrote:

Looks like I'm the only one here who has a DTS/Dolby surround system or cares about surround sound. Because all my other consoles/PC have it and the Wii U can only produce it with the mostly useless linear PCM.

I care about surround sound. That's why I bought a Sony reciever that does 7.2 linear PCM. All audio signals originally derive from PCM. PCM IS digital audio.

A receiver that doesn't do PCM is basically outdated by this point, anyway. I haven't seen a NIB receiver without at least 5.1 PCM since like 2009 or 2010.

But the Wii U doesn't have a dedicated audio output so I can't use the 5.1 PCM, that's why it's useless.

DualWielding

No Powah
No Third Party Support
No Account System
No region Free
No Trophies/Achievement
No Cheap Games

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Octane

DualWielding wrote:

No Trophies/Achievement

Instead of simply copying from other game developers, Nintendo made the stamp system that is present in some of their games, these are their equivalent of trophies. Hyrule Warriors actually has an achievement system. I however fail to see the importance of this, as most Nintendo games offer more than enough content and take a lot of time and effort to 100% anyway.

Octane

jariw

DualWielding wrote:

No Powah

No gaming console has Powah, compared to a decent gaming PC.

DualWielding wrote:

No Account System

Yes, it has. But it's not very good/flexible.

DualWielding wrote:

No Trophies/Achievement

Why would that be important?

DualWielding wrote:

No Cheap Games

The Letter seems to be cheap on all possible levels.

jariw

OneBagTravel

Right now I just wish they made app switching faster. I'm not sure if it's even possible but loading up MiiVerse and other dual loading apps should be nearly instantaneous.

Also the Wii U should have the Friends List be on all the time. Not an separate app to load. Better, faster communication between friends should be implemented ASAP.

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Nintenjoe64

1. It fails to boot up properly 50% of the time since I got the quick start menu
2. Either my gamepad or its charger is buggered without showing any real wear and tear

ogo79 wrote:

i think the biggest con of the wii u is some of its fans

Agreed. A serious con could be that every time I look for Wii U news I mainly see negative articles or fans starting posts about how rubbish the Wii U is.

I only posted this to get my avatar as the forum's thumbnail.

ogo79

DualWielding wrote:

No Powah

my wii u has power. dont blame nintendo for yer lack of electricity.

the_shpydar wrote:
As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
And yes, he is (usually) always right, and he is (almost) the sexiest gamer out there (not counting me) ;)

KB90

jariw wrote:

KB90 wrote:

Not enough online players.

Looking at the avatar, do you mean for MK8? FWIW, I have never had a problem with that in MK8. If I get assigned to a group with just a few players, I play one race and the group is usually almost full after that. And if that doesn't help, I exit and re-enter online and I usually get assigned to a fuller group.

I have had just me and one other on many occasions. On the old WII whenever I went online 9/10 it was 10+ racers hopefully Santa will sort.

KB90

SCRAPPER392

SuperWiiU wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

SuperWiiU wrote:

Looks like I'm the only one here who has a DTS/Dolby surround system or cares about surround sound. Because all my other consoles/PC have it and the Wii U can only produce it with the mostly useless linear PCM.

I care about surround sound. That's why I bought a Sony reciever that does 7.2 linear PCM. All audio signals originally derive from PCM. PCM IS digital audio.

A receiver that doesn't do PCM is basically outdated by this point, anyway. I haven't seen a NIB receiver without at least 5.1 PCM since like 2009 or 2010.

But the Wii U doesn't have a dedicated audio output so I can't use the 5.1 PCM, that's why it's useless.

HDMI carries the audio signal. You can't even really get 5.1 PCM through anything but, otherwise Dolby and DTS would have been cut out along time ago.

Nintendo figures that if you want surround sound, you'll get a new receiver that supports the current HDMI standard, which would also include PCM audio capabilities. If your receiver doesn't support PCM audio through HDMI, Nintendo is basically telling you that your receiver is outdated.

Just out of curiosity, when did you get your current A/V receiver?

Qwest

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nf_2

The standard hard drive should be bigger. The deluxe set only has about 27GB when the OS is factored in, which really is not a lot of space. $300 for a console should get you more than a 32GB hard drive considering 32GB SD cards are under $20 (and no, this doesn't justify the low HDD size).

Miiverse integration absolutely needs to be improved. I should be able to send messages to my friends without having to enter the Miiverse app, and I should get a real notification for when I get a message. Not only that, but you should be able to invite/ask friends to play games with you. This applies to the 3DS as well.

The Gamepad should be compatible with all eShop titles, including Wii VC/ Wiiware, I don't see why it couldn't be used as "Pro controller." I had a Wii basically from launch and didn't buy one because their rip offs, I'm not gonna buy one now.

Being able to switch profiles on the Netflix app would be nice...

Otherwise it's a pretty sweet system that just lacks a lot of big named games. As a grad student I struggle to find time to play the games that are coming out now between the U and 3DS, but I can see how other people would find the library lacking. There's not a lot of variety, and outside of MK8 and eventually Smash, there's really not a whole lot that you could consider a must have exclusive. The 3rd party support sucks, but there's generally enough there from the eShop to make up for it.

nf_2

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SCRAPPER392

@nf_2
Nintendo just figures that if you want more HDD space, you'll invest in an external HDD.

Qwest

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LegatoSkyheart

Lack of Major 3rd Party releases.
Lack of Quality Control in eShop.
No Party Chat.
No Cross game Video Chat. (anyone even use the Video Calling feature?)
Having to buy an External Harddrive rather than one being provided for you.
No Pop Up messages to show you're getting a call or a Miiverse Message.
No Achievements. (minor, but I would have liked a rep system for Miiverse.)

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