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SCAR392

21. Posted:

Bankai wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Yes, but the Gamepad acts as the PS Vita when PS Vita and PS3 are played as one.

This topic is about cross platform play.

The Wii U by itself is not doing cross platform play.

Ya, 3DS isn't doing that yet. It can though. Super Smash Bros. proves it can, same with Monster Hunter.
The problem never is that it can't, it's that it won't. Once Nintendo gets into the cross play 'environment', my bet is that they'll start implementing systems that Sony has.
i.e. Nintendo goes outside without a coat, and it's cold. Nintendo goes back inside and grabs a coat.
What is this progress called?

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Sonomin

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@scar392 I'd give up if I were you, Bankai has you covered on this and your arguments don't really make sense at all

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SCAR392

23. Posted:

Ya. We'll see what Nintendo does with cross play once they start supporting it again with the newer consoles.

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Funny_Moblin

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SCAR392 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

You don't pay attention or can't read either. In the next sentence, I said that I don't need a PS Vita to understand how it works, which goes past the need of actually needing one to understand. Even if I did have a PS Vita, you still wouldn't believe me. What features does PS Vita add to a PS3 game, or vice versa?

The Vita can be used as a controller when playing PS3 games. It can work as a second screen. You can transfer your game save from your PS3 to your Vita to play your game on the go, and transfer it back when you're at home to continue where you left off.

You can do everything with the Vita/ PS3 that you can do with the Monster Hunter game. Considering that Monster Hunter is the only game that links 3DS to Wii U, and considering that there is a handful of Vita games that now support it, it's not inferior. It's exactly the same experience. With more games.

I said that I don't need a PS Vita to understand how it works, which goes past the need of actually needing one to understand.

uh huh.

Well good then. I hope you're enjoying that. The only problem with that way of doing things, is that you need to pay $300 for a PS3, then $250 for a PS Vita.
Nintendo has kind of already combined PS3 and Vitas cross play ability where they interact as one with Wii U, then they have 3DS on top of that as a stand alone, and are combining both for the cross play on the go. Also, acting as one which is sure to happen in Smash Bros.
We need to make sure not to forget the similarity between both the systems.
Crossplay altogether is not a new concept.

What I'm worried about for the Wii U and 3DS though is, how can crossplay be supported by both when the graphical powers are very different?

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Funny_Moblin

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And on top of that, my biggest worry, is downscaling the Wii U version of Super Smash Bros. U just to be compatible with the 3DS version.

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SCAR392

26. Posted:

Funny_Moblin wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

You don't pay attention or can't read either. In the next sentence, I said that I don't need a PS Vita to understand how it works, which goes past the need of actually needing one to understand. Even if I did have a PS Vita, you still wouldn't believe me. What features does PS Vita add to a PS3 game, or vice versa?

The Vita can be used as a controller when playing PS3 games. It can work as a second screen. You can transfer your game save from your PS3 to your Vita to play your game on the go, and transfer it back when you're at home to continue where you left off.

You can do everything with the Vita/ PS3 that you can do with the Monster Hunter game. Considering that Monster Hunter is the only game that links 3DS to Wii U, and considering that there is a handful of Vita games that now support it, it's not inferior. It's exactly the same experience. With more games.

I said that I don't need a PS Vita to understand how it works, which goes past the need of actually needing one to understand.

uh huh.

Well good then. I hope you're enjoying that. The only problem with that way of doing things, is that you need to pay $300 for a PS3, then $250 for a PS Vita.
Nintendo has kind of already combined PS3 and Vitas cross play ability where they interact as one with Wii U, then they have 3DS on top of that as a stand alone, and are combining both for the cross play on the go. Also, acting as one which is sure to happen in Smash Bros.
We need to make sure not to forget the similarity between both the systems.
Crossplay altogether is not a new concept.

What I'm worried about for the Wii U and 3DS though is, how can crossplay be supported by both when the graphical powers are very different?

I wouldn't worry too much. Nintendo knows what they're doing. If anything, they'll compress the game, get rid of a few textures, or some detail, but keep at least 80% of visual/audio quality. I'm sure there will be benefits for having both besides cross play. If you had Geometry Wars for Wii and DS, you could unlock a few extra levels, and could get Mew using Pokemon Ranch. I don't think it will be exclusive to have extra content like that, that could make people feel left out. I do think it will be better than PS crossplay though.

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brooks83

27. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Yes, but the Gamepad acts as the PS Vita when PS Vita and PS3 are played as one.

This topic is about cross platform play.

The Wii U by itself is not doing cross platform play.

Ya, 3DS isn't doing that yet. It can though. Super Smash Bros. proves it can, same with Monster Hunter.
The problem never is that it can't, it's that it won't. Once Nintendo gets into the cross play 'environment', my bet is that they'll start implementing systems that Sony has.
i.e. Nintendo goes outside without a coat, and it's cold. Nintendo goes back inside and grabs a coat.
What is this progress called?

I'm not even gonna bother trying to comprehend the coat analogy, but what do you mean when you say they'll start implementing systems that Sony has? My guess is that a few games will support 3DS/Wii U cross platform play and that's it, just like any other time Nintendo does something like that.

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SCAR392

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brooks83 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Yes, but the Gamepad acts as the PS Vita when PS Vita and PS3 are played as one.

This topic is about cross platform play.

The Wii U by itself is not doing cross platform play.

Ya, 3DS isn't doing that yet. It can though. Super Smash Bros. proves it can, same with Monster Hunter.
The problem never is that it can't, it's that it won't. Once Nintendo gets into the cross play 'environment', my bet is that they'll start implementing systems that Sony has.
i.e. Nintendo goes outside without a coat, and it's cold. Nintendo goes back inside and grabs a coat.
What is this progress called?

I'm not even gonna bother trying to comprehend the coat analogy, but what do you mean when you say they'll start implementing systems that Sony has? My guess is that a few games will support 3DS/Wii U cross platform play and that's it, just like any other time Nintendo does something like that.

I think they'll start having more sharing across consoles, but it won't be internet reliant, and will have tons way more content by sacrificing internet. As much as people like to use internet for everything, sometimes you need to have hardware right then and there to transfer things. You can't do download play on DS/3DS over the internet for example. You need to have the systems in front of you for it work. Just imagine if PS3/Vita could stream you games over internet rather than downloading them.
That would use cloud, get rid of discs, AND free up space. If Sony makes PS4 without an HDD at all, that could save people $100 right then and there, as long as the said system works. These are the things we need to think about, not begging or complaining for already made stuff.

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ShadJV

29. Posted:

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And on top of that, my biggest worry, is downscaling the Wii U version of Super Smash Bros. U just to be compatible with the 3DS version.

Do you seriously think Sakurai will downscale an HD game to the 3DSes capabilities? Nintendo wouldn't let that happen, it would look hideous on a big screen. I'm certain both will push their respective systems to their limits.

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Funny_Moblin

30. Posted:

ShadJV wrote:

Funny_Moblin wrote:

And on top of that, my biggest worry, is downscaling the Wii U version of Super Smash Bros. U just to be compatible with the 3DS version.

Do you seriously think Sakurai will downscale an HD game to the 3DSes capabilities? Nintendo wouldn't let that happen, it would look hideous on a big screen. I'm certain both will push their respective systems to their limits.

I really do hope so! And talking about SSBU, can't wait to see what they've got to show at E3. I said this before and I'll say it again. I hope Nintendo doesn't rush their games due to public pressure regarding lack of game for the Wii U right now.

Also when I refer to downscaling, I too refer to taking out some potential details such as in the maps, or maybe how large a map is, as well as the length and depth of storyline gameplay such as the Sub-Space Emissary.

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