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rallydefault

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Tasuki

Honestly Nintendo will do fine. The built themselves as a family console and that there will keep them going. Yes the Wii U was targeted towards more of the PS/Xbox crowd but honestly its the exclusives that keep them going and most people know that already and have or will buy other machines for 3rd party games.

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SofaKing

WingedSnagret wrote:

Unless something drastic happens, I think it's safe to say that the Wii U has all but lost the vast majority of 3rd party titles coming out. But the question is, will the system do well enough on its own?

I personally think it will provided certain steps are taken, such as strengthening the eShop with more games like N64 and GameCube titles, tapping into their huge IP pool to bring back old favorites like Star Fox and F-Zero while also introducing new ones, and most importantly, get really aggressive with the advertising, particularly involving previously mentioned potential new IPs and clearing up the general confusion the public has with the system.

please refer to the million other threads about this very topic on this forum. They are good reads!

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AJ_Lethal

NintyCraze2013 wrote:

It killed the Dreamcast, it might kill the Wii U. Nintendo doesn't cater to every genre, the Wii U has few oddball, inciting games (unless you count Pikmin 3) that are exclusive. The Wii U is on track to have only about half the Dreamcast's sales in the same amount of time. Though I love both dearly, I doubt the Wii U will be an industrial success, RIP Dreamcast

Oh, FGS, the goshdarn Dreamcast argument... here we go again.

The Dreamcast died because Sega died. End of story.

moomoo

Define survive.

If you're asking if will it stay on the market for the traditional console cycle, yeah, I think it will. That's just the way Nintendo does things.

If you're asking if it will sell as much as the Xbox One and the PS4 in its lifetime, then no. If you're asking if it will sell to how much Nintendo wants it to sell, then no. If you're asking if it will bring Nintendo's market share to Wii levels, then no.

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I've just now noticed the spelling error on the topic title.

Or I could say that was intentional...

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SCRAPPER392

shingi_70 wrote:

Its going to do GameCube numbers.

Pictures of time machine, required.

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kkslider5552000

I don't find the GCN numbers thing to make much sense. GCN numbers happened because Nintendo was in decline for console sales since a decade before it was even released and tried to compete with the other 2 consoles in the exact same way.

Wii U's problems came from bad initial marketing and making from the assumption that over-relying on Mario platformers as a way to sell anything ever and assuming people buy Nintendo consoles for Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed made any sense. Now we can't be certain the problem will suddenly be fixed, but there's too many differences with their upcoming lineup (even ignoring the fact that because it came out first, it now has the best next gen library) to assume we know things, especially considering 3DS' success, which I swear was considered so much more unlikely by so many people and for many reasons arguably should have failed based on how it launched.

Though maybe I'm just optimistic that Nintendo not trying to run Mario platformers into the ground and working closely with underappreciated Japanese game devs will make the console far more successful, just because it totally should.

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Dave24

As soon as they will do proper account system they will be golden and sales will pick up eventually. I can't blame people for being afraid of buying it and dread every time they turn on the system and pray it won't stop working and lose all the games bought digitally and money.

They can survive without 3rd party, because they have enough studios to make games for them and it looks like indies are happy to work with them, so there is a chance of nice stream of games. It will survive, but they have a long way ahead of them

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kkslider5552000

Dave24 wrote:

As soon as they will do proper account system they will be golden and sales will pick up eventually. I can't blame people for being afraid of buying it and dread every time they turn on the system and pray it won't stop working and lose all the games bought digitally and money.

I do agree it will be a good thing and will help but it's not going to make a big difference in sales. The majority of people honestly don't care or even know this is a thing. At most it would mean better digital sales and maybe enough positive opinions because of that alone to make at least a little bit of difference. But the main reason why Nintendo will do that is for digital sales and to appease hardcore gamers rather than to use it to propel themselves to the top again, because that's clearly not going to be why that happens.

It will happen if they have the right games at the right time with the right marketing...among 1000 other things.

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MikeLove

SCAR392 wrote:

shingi_70 wrote:

Its going to do GameCube numbers.

Pictures of time machine, required.

Hopefully when he's on the time machine he can let you know if your predictions that the Wii-U's TRUE power will be unleashed after a hypothetical OS update actually come to fruition?

God speed, @shingi_70!

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Cia

In some way i've started to enjoy the fact that Wii U doesn't sell too well. It feels like Premium stuff for those who understands it's greatness (in other words, for those who've actually played it extensively).

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AJ_Lethal

Dave24 wrote:

As soon as they will do proper account system they will be golden and sales will pick up eventually. I can't blame people for being afraid of buying it and dread every time they turn on the system and pray it won't stop working and lose all the games bought digitally and money.

I don't think that's what's holding the U back sales-wise. NN is still in its infancy.

Lack of awareness and advertising is the real issue for now.

dumedum

Faron wrote:

In some way i've started to enjoy the fact that Wii U doesn't sell too well. It feels like Premium stuff for those who understands it's greatness (in other words, for those who've actually played it extensively).

I feel the same way. It's like I'm playing with the hottest tech in the world, cool maps and stuff that interact with HD gaming, and controlling the TV at the same time, and streaming back and forth with a press of a magic button, and people buy inferior products instead.

CureDolly wrote:

iBooks

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SCRAPPER392

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Besides your inappropriate GIF, I agree. @shing_70 should definitely let us know what the future brings, assuming he does indeed have a time machine, which he implied.

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DualWielding

It'll survive but it'll suck, same as every Nintendo non-handheld since after the SNES

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renaryuugufan92

NintyCraze2013 wrote:

It killed the Dreamcast, it might kill the Wii U. Nintendo doesn't cater to every genre, the Wii U has few oddball, inciting games (unless you count Pikmin 3) that are exclusive. The Wii U is on track to have only about half the Dreamcast's sales in the same amount of time. Though I love both dearly, I doubt the Wii U will be an industrial success, RIP Dreamcast

The Dreamcast bombed due to the distaste Sega caused on their brand when they released new hardware/accessories and quickly dropped support for them or in the Saturn's case made it extreamly hard to develop for.
Sega Genesis -success-
CD -dropped support early/failed-
32X -dropped in favor of the Saturn/failed-
Saturn -hard to develop for and support wained rather early on/ considered a failure-
Dreamcast, a excellent system that Sega unlike Nintendo atm with the Wii U could not afford to keep on the market and the fact that it just stopped selling once the PS2 was announced.

Nintendo's consoles since 1991
SNES: -a profitable success at 40+Million sold-
N64 - sold 30+million and was still a profitable machine for Nintendo
GCN sold 21 Million but was still profitable due to software
Wii has sold 100 Million, despite poor 3rd party support it was a major profit for Nintendo
Wii U - might sell as much or worse than the GCN but will still turn out a profit for Nintendo with software especially throughout 2014 going into 2015.

lets not forget how much money the handhelds have printed for Nintendo since 1988~

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AJ_Lethal

renaryuugufan92 wrote:

The Dreamcast bombed due to the distaste Sega caused on their brand when they released new hardware/accessories and quickly dropped support for them or in the Saturn's case made it extreamly hard to develop for.
Sega Genesis -success-
CD -dropped support early/failed-
32X -dropped in favor of the Saturn/failed-
Saturn -hard to develop for and support wained rather early on/ considered a failure-
Dreamcast, a excellent system that Sega unlike Nintendo atm with the Wii U could not afford to keep on the market and the fact that it just stopped selling once the PS2 was announced. And Sega ran out of money

You missed that bit.

renaryuugufan92

AJ_Lethal wrote:

renaryuugufan92 wrote:

And Sega ran out of money[/strong]

You missed that bit.

Sega unlike Nintendo atm with the Wii U could not afford thanks but thats what I meant~

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Tasuki

On the Dreamcast thing it also didn't help that companies were still mad at Sega for switching the release date of the Saturn a whole six months earlier without warning. This is the reason the Saturn failed. Only a handful of stores got Saturns on the new release date and other stores like KB Toys didn't and as a result limited there Sega ares in their stores. That carried over to the Dreamcast as well.

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