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Topic: Why would anyone go digital on the Wii U? And have you?

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SCAR392

21. Posted:

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If a digital future is upon us, then I assume it would be alot better on all fronts. Like say, if every console had 3 or 4G. You'd have internet whwre ever you are.

That's actually what I thought Microsoft was gonna do when they said mandatory internet. Mandatory internet wouldn't be a problem if internet was everywhere, obviously. I wouldn't worry about it. Just buy what you want. I don't think digital or physical copies will ever be a forced decision.

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@DarkwingLz well, because they would be making 100% of the profit. And retailers are pretty consistent, atleast where I live. I don't know what country you live in, but here they never usually fluctuate much store to store. And a lot of stores match the best price. This is why competition is good for the consumer also. When companies are competing and competitively pricing their products to undercut the competitor it usually means lower prices for us. Steam does a good job at this even though they dominate like 80% of the PC market, if not more. Still wish other markets like GOG.com would get bigger though... love a DRM-free option for digital distributors.

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@Treverend: Telling us it's dumb on Nintendo's part is just close-minded. Do any of us understand the scope and ramifications of their business principles? Not likely.

For my part, I think Nintendo would ideally like to strengthen their retail performance and resulting relationships. Anything that would possibly undercut that progress might not be good for the long-term.

Of course, my comprehension is very small on this matter, but one thing I do know is the eShop will never replicate the amount of traffic flowing through retail stores. Subsequently, the digital market is far more closed. You aren't really reaching new or even very large audiences... Besides, there are a litany of sales and marketing issues colliding. I don't think the market has borne out a definitive result in these embryonic stages, really.

To that end, Nintendo's path is one tentative strategy. None of these companies know what is right yet (except Microsoft, which must be certain that charging a subscription fee is righteous beyond belief).

If nothing else, has others have stated, the retail considerations are massive. You better believe Nintendo is desperately hanging onto their shelf space with all their might (actually rapidly losing it, in many cases). In the retail world, that is hallowed ground. How many other aisles do you see in a store, dominated by one brand?

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I'm saying they are being dumb in their transition. In the time being you are right but in the long run I have no doubt everything will be digital. Not only video games but every area of entertainment. Not having real accounts on their systems isn't really reassuring people who do want to move over to going digital.

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No, Wii U games take up too much space digitally. Plus, they don't come with boxes! Retail all the way!

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Nintendo is a traditional company. They will only make those advancements when it's safe, secure, and profitable.

You may recall, the Wii was originally intended to play digital games off SD cards and even potentially allow you to take those games to play on other Wiis. Near the final stages they determined the security (i.e. pirating) concerns were too apparent and completely locked out the feature, until later adapting that functionality in a future update.

Meanwhile, it's ridiculously obvious that Sony's PSN has struggled against security concerns... Even to the point of being at one time compromised. The PSP, their first real foray, was a total mess. It's main source of value to many was as a portable pirating device.

My point here is that as much as we bemoan Nintendo's slow sense of progress, they succeed as a company by stubbornly protecting against unnecessary loss. In the case of online accounts, it could be these security concerns or simple shrewd business... Hard to say, but Nintendo will implement features only when they've been rigorously tested and adapted to fit the company principles.

Love it or hate it, this is all par of the same ethic that has made Nintendo the company we adore... No coincidence other companies constantly shuffle management and struggle to maintain consistency.

(For what it's worth, it's true that Nintendo will protect your digital investments against provable loss. Not a perfect solution, but there is some built-in insurance.)

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yeah some people don't realize "here is a thing I hate" and "here is a thing that you can't justify" are not one and the same all the time

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There are games I don't want to have to rely on disc juggling. I take my Wii U with me where I go. If we have a family get together at my parents or my sisters place or my friends place, the Wii U comes too (just like the Wii before it). The nice thing about digital is that for those multiplayer games (Super Smash Bros., Wii Sports, Wii Party) it would be nice to have them so I don't have to carry the discs along with all the other stuff. Sadly Wii Party U didn't happen that way which means aside from VC games and Wii Fit U, I've bought 0 games off the eShop.

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My roomate just got Wii u and she's all crazy for it, I Wasn't really a big fan of Wii (Besides Zelda cus you know...) What is "Going Digital"

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I've gone 100% digital for Wii U and 3DS. It's just too convenient to ignore.

Price of external storage is a non-issue, I think. If you're going to commit to digital copies, $100 for all the storage space you'll ever need in your life isn't asking too much.

I agree that the eShop could do with some more competitive pricing. There are sales sometimes, but they're few and far between. Steam is a very extreme example though, and I don't believe it's feasible for any home console, but the eShop could definitely do with some sales.

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31. Posted:

Why does it matter to you if people go all digital anyway? It's their choice, and they clearly have reasons for it. I've personally gone all digital, because I like the convenience, I don't have to wait a week for delivery, I actually have a HDD so storage will never be an issue, I have a decent internet connection, I don't have a million boxes cluttering my room and I don't have to choose what to take to a friend's place, and Australia's prices are such a ripoff it doesn't matter whether you go digital or not. The lack of an account system is not an issue right now. How am I going to manage to break my Wii U, when it sits in one spot for it's entire life? WIth 3DS it's a slight issue, but if you actually look after your belongings, it shouldn't ever really happen.

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32. Posted:

Treverend wrote:

@DarkwingLz well, because they would be making 100% of the profit. And retailers are pretty consistent, atleast where I live. I don't know what country you live in, but here they never usually fluctuate much store to store. And a lot of stores match the best price. This is why competition is good for the consumer also. When companies are competing and competitively pricing their products to undercut the competitor it usually means lower prices for us. Steam does a good job at this even though they dominate like 80% of the PC market, if not more. Still wish other markets like GOG.com would get bigger though... love a DRM-free option for digital distributors.

These retailers are competing with each other and that's why they are lowering prices and price-matching. They are trying to attract the most business. They should not have to compete with their own providers. From what I understand, the retailers themselves make a small percentage of the profits from each game sold (hence why Gamestop is big on used games), so the difference is not really that much for Nintendo.

Again, true competition is what lowers prices. Retailers and Steam both have competition while Nintendo themselves do not (not directly anyway)

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33. Posted:

I've never broken or lost a Nintendo system. If anything, I have lost a cartridge here and there, though. 2, to be exact. I lost Game & Watch Gallery when I was 6, and Super Mario 3D Land about a year ago.

An account system wouldn't have been able to stop those occurrences, regardless. Not to mention cartridges break(although they've gotten better) easier in comparison to a digital file that you have access to as long as you have the system.

EDIT: Since I take care of my stuff, it's not really an issue. I'm not saying an account system wouldn't be welcome, but it's alot easier to just take care of your stuff in the first place.

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34. Posted:

Also the boxes have lame artwork nowadays and crappy manuals.Nothing that you would call a collectors item or sell for a high price on Ebay... Used games are worth a whopping $5 trade in at gamestop so they can sell them for the RRP of a new one ;)

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If anything, I'd like to meet Nintendo in the middle and get the option to do one transfer from system to system per year (one for 3DS and one for Wii U) if a console is lost, stolen, or broken. That way there's at least some security but the games cannot be copied multiple times.

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36. Posted:

I think Wii U and 3DS will have a shared account eventually, anyway. There will probably be some VC games for the systems to share before it's implemented, though.

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37. Posted:

Treverend wrote:

And I'm also afraid of the trend because one day they will be forcing me to go digital and they will have a monopoly on prices. Maybe not this gen, but it's certainly coming someday.

Well yes, this will happen. How would it be a monopoly though?

Right now there are at least four major players in the digital distribution of games. If one of them pushes prices up without justification then the consumer will punish them by not buying their system. If they restrict users rights to an unacceptable degree then people will jump ship. We've seen this in the backlash against the XBOne already.

On the other side this also means that a creative player in the market will be rewarded. If someone comes out and lets you buy the content how you want to buy it then people will lean towards that platform. Especially true with third party software which is the space that all of the non-Nintendo platforms seem to occupy. If anything recent happenings have shown us that brand loyalty is very thin and short lived even with the vitriol you see on the 'nets.

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38. Posted:

Why do some people here think games will ever go all-digital? There's always going to be people who want to shop brick-and-mortar for a tangible copy. I guess I dunno what games will look like in 500 years, but as for the 21st century, I really cannot see physical ever stop being an option for retail releases.

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39. Posted:

@8BitSamarai
My external HDD is just as tangible as a disc.

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40. Posted:

Physical discs are worth a pinch of poop these days... It's not 1980 - 2006 anymore so get with the times yo ;)

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